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Karrl Tian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
62
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Posted - 2012.12.27 08:01:00 -
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I thought Nullsec was the arena. People certainly aren't going there for PvE. |
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
412
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Posted - 2012.12.27 08:13:00 -
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No, not necessary with new crime watch and bounties.
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Valleria Darkmoon
No Salvation
49
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Posted - 2012.12.27 08:15:00 -
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I should add at this point that we did run Frigfest a few months back in Amamake and tons of people showed up to fight there in their frigates, some were ganks on people fighting at a belt, some pilots blobbed and some people showed up to safe up and challenge people to 1v1 where they'd join fleet and have their opponent warp to them. Hundreds of kills and nearly 10 billion ISK worth of frigates (and other stuff) died that week, frigate pilots would even call a truce to gang up on people who brought in battlecruisers and other such things to spoil it and the BC would quickly find itself being destroyed by 7 frigates with their e-war keeping them all alive. If you were interested in a frigate 1v1 there was absolutely no excuse for not finding it an Amamake that week. I even promised not to shoot any pods that lost a frigate and I didn't in the interest of keeping participation high and I didn't kill a single one. There was a killboard for the event exclusively and you can look it up if you like, tons of solo "fair" fights to be had there.
If you posted about needing arenas and you didn't show up to that event, give your head a shake, although there were some shennanigans, 95% of the combat that week was on the level and if you lose a T1 frigate how many tears are you really going to shed over it? Or are arenas supposed to be restricted to high sec only so that CONCORD can do what we could not? Namely promising your safety until you get into your deathmatch. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2223
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Posted - 2012.12.27 08:41:00 -
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Valleria Darkmoon wrote:If you posted about needing arenas and you didn't show up to that event, give your head a shake. Although there were some shennanigans, 95% of the combat that week was on the level and if you lose a T1 frigate how many tears are you really going to shed over it? Or are arenas supposed to be restricted to high sec only so that CONCORD can do what we could not? Namely promising your safety until you get into your deathmatch. CONCORD <3 oh so reliable ~ and dependable ~ CONCORD you're our love ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
destiny2
57
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:26:00 -
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why go to a arena, when you can just fly in some random alliances space, and demand, a battle.
sheesh poster is trying to make this game like World Of WarCrap. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
245
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:52:00 -
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I would love to see a CCP in-game tool helping players to organize small-size tournaments, like these internal frigates-tournament that a lots of corps have, now that Retribution has been released.
Not something that prevent losses -see, even for the alliance tournament, it's 'real' stuff-, I thought of something more practical like points count, and so on. After years and years of research around ice mining, they finally found how to make snowballs again :D |
Ares Desideratus
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
59
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Posted - 2012.12.27 12:33:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:why go to a arena, when you can just fly in some random alliances space, and demand, a battle. sheesh poster is trying to make this game like World Of WarCrap. Idunno, sometimes I think you guys are just Eve Hipsters and that there would actually be nothing wrong with a legit 1v1 system in high-sec. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
677
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Posted - 2012.12.27 14:11:00 -
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Lord Wiggin wrote:Put Arenas in the major hubs, allow players to arrange matches. No.
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |
Nessa Aldeen
The Sword and The Shield
2
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:29:00 -
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Those who are saying 'NAY' are not reading the context of the OP. Read slowly, and not read it like an FB post.
You keep going on and on about pvp already exists. Everyone who signed up on EVE knows this.
What is proposed is legitimate spectator sport and induce betting and gambling. That is entertainment pvp. You still LOSE ships AND Iskies albeit through entertainment. Hopefully this will also attract hi sec dwellers/risk adverse players to pvp and eventually be motivated to go into low and null. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
234
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:17:00 -
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Ares Desideratus wrote:destiny2 wrote:why go to a arena, when you can just fly in some random alliances space, and demand, a battle. sheesh poster is trying to make this game like World Of WarCrap. Idunno, sometimes I think you guys are just Eve Hipsters and that there would actually be nothing wrong with a legit 1v1 system in high-sec.
There is. Join in the same corp and set to one and another.
It's there. Use it.
As the philosopher Roger Waters almost wrote "We don't need no arenas" |
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
234
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:20:00 -
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Nessa Aldeen wrote:Those who are saying 'NAY' are not reading the context of the OP. Read slowly, and not read it like an FB post.
You keep going on and on about pvp already exists. Everyone who signed up on EVE knows this.
What is proposed is legitimate spectator sport and induce betting and gambling. That is entertainment pvp. You still LOSE ships AND Iskies albeit through entertainment. Hopefully this will also attract hi sec dwellers/risk adverse players to pvp and eventually be motivated to go into low and null.
Sigh. You can still do that today.
You read the umpteen other posts hereabouts on how this sort of thing is already done.
All the combatants have to do is to join the same Corporation for the duration and then let others bet on it. I'd run the book myself if there is any interest but arenas are not, repeat not, needed at all.
The game mecahnics are there. Use them.
Can we stop this High Sec Arena bleating because sooner or later I am going to start saying WoW and EQ are over there somewhere soon? |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
400
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:25:00 -
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Abu Shahid wrote:Dev-organized loss-free PvP arenas are a terrible idea and should be stopped. EVE PvP is greatest when it is the outcome of natural events and politics, as advertised in CCPs many marketing campaigns. Giving tools or spectator slots for players to view the biggest 0.0 battles would add dimension to EVE, and allow more people to become part of the ever-growing story that is EVE. i've been there. i've seen that.
So you really sure someone will enjoy watching sitting hordes of ships in station/next to Titan for hours? Or someone will enjoy watching not-happened battle because one side "smartly" decided to not engage?
0.0 blob battles are fun sometimes. But it is really rare case for side spectator.
And about politics and story of Eve..... Well.... This is story for sure. But not sure if this would catch someone outside of those 0.0 alliances making it. After all there is no difference if BOB is dominated, or goonswarm is dominated. or some other alliance is dominated in 0.0. From outside these are just different names. |
Ath'daru
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
2
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:26:00 -
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Lord Wiggin wrote:Put Arenas in the major hubs, allow players to arrange matches. Televise the match's in local and perhaps in CQ's. (I want my remote CCP) Set up a betting system, with the house taking a cut. Part of the house cut goes to Isk prizes for the winner, based on a percentage of the take, so that the betting interest in the match directly affects the payout. Isk sink....
I was never in favor of Arenas, I felt they would be game breaking, but after watching people attempt to manipulate the suspect system to get 1 vs 1 day after day, maybe it's time. Outside of an Arena, there is no way to ensure a 1 vs 1. This solves the issue, provides passive entertainment for the couch potato/ship spinner types, as well as an isk sink. With the number of gambling sites run by players, isn't it time CCP got in on the action?
******** idea. |
Santo Trafficante
the united Negative Ten.
3
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:37:00 -
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Heeey homie ........ thats sum bad shiet idea dudah,stop teasin' and get breathin' |
baltec1
Bat Country
4544
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Posted - 2012.12.28 15:14:00 -
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Santo Trafficante wrote:Heeey homie ........ thats sum bad shiet idea dudah,stop teasin' and get breathin' Did anyone else read this in jar jars voice? |
Jim Hazard
Scrubfleet
35
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:50:00 -
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I would definetly say no to "public" arenas, which can be entered at any time by random ppl to fight it out 1v1, because it just does not fit into eve. The day to day PvP in EvE should never ever take place in arenas.
A tool to help people host tournaments is a different story though.
I would guess it does not even need to be a complicated thing.
Basically all you need is an extra window to create tournaments and to participate in the tournaments. If you could just shedule matches and the participants automatically get transfered into an arena (like in the ally tournament) and get transfered back once the time is over.
A few checkboxes for certain rule options, for example:
- Shiptypes - Max Meta Level - Max Pilots per team - max points per team (each ship getting a certain fixed value for all tournaments) - checkboxes for implant types that are allowed
The system of course would need to be able to automatically scan ship fittings and implants, but i guess that should not really be a big deal.
Basically an automated system that can do what the CCP staff does when they host tournaments. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
1025
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:52:00 -
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Jim Hazard wrote:I would definetly say no to "public" arenas, which can be entered at any time by random ppl to fight it out 1v1, because it just does not fit into eve. The day to day PvP in EvE should never ever take place in arenas.
A tool to help people host tournaments is a different story though.
I would guess it does not even need to be a complicated thing.
Basically all you need is an extra window to create tournaments and to participate in the tournaments. If you could just shedule matches and the participants automatically get transfered into an arena (like in the ally tournament) and get transfered back once the time is over.
A few checkboxes for certain rule options, for example:
- Shiptypes - Max Meta Level - Max Pilots per team - max points per team (each ship getting a certain fixed value for all tournaments) - checkboxes for implant types that are allowed
The system of course would need to be able to automatically scan ship fittings and implants, but i guess that should not really be a big deal.
Basically an automated system that can do what the CCP staff does when they host tournaments.
Its called cyno jamming and bubbles, lots and lots and lots of bubbles. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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