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Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:38:00 -
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As most of you know the topic of gun control and, as of today, video games, are the two most discussed and controversial in the US. There are a lot of sites and local news stations picking up on and buying into the whole 'anti-video-game-agenda'. In light of the recent events this is exactly what they needed to start working on that agenda. To take away our rights to bare arms as well as our rights to internet spaceships.
So my question. Is EVE Online a game of violence? Is it rated more violent than Starcraft or WOW? Or maybe less violent than COD and Battlefield.
"gunman Adam Lanza playing games ranging from the military strategy "Starcraft" to kid-friendly "Dance Dance Revolution," neither of which rank among the more violent titles on the market." CNN.com Article.
"The Supreme Court has struck down a California law that would have banned selling "violent" video games"
This was a while back but still relevant. The fact that it had to be denied means it could be put back in front of them again. This time scooped Federally. Could be passed eventually and If the court or one of our dear leaders decides to drop a bann on violent video games where does EVE fall into the mix? Servers are not held with-in the US so. Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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Dave stark
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:44:00 -
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wondered how long it'd take before "adam lanza" and "violent games" were put in the same sentence. longer than i expected, but it still happened. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Azitek
Sathainn Braithrean Cartel
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:44:00 -
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Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. So correct me if I'm wrong, but the government wouldn't be able to ban an Icelandic piece of software.
Also, you don't see people die in this game, which is probably what gets peoples' underwear in a bunch. Sure, every time you loose a battleship hundreds of poor SOBs get violently suffocated/frozen/blow to pieces. But you don't see it, so mothers won't care as much.
Also, sweet name yo. |
Daria Meridian Carlile
The Carlile Consortium
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:46:00 -
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Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. So correct me if I'm wrong, but the government wouldn't be able to ban an Icelandic piece of software.
Also, you don't see people die in this game, which is probably what gets peoples' underwear in a bunch. Sure, every time you loose a battleship hundreds of poor SOBs get violently suffocated/frozen/blown to pieces. But you don't see it, so mothers won't care as much.
Also, sweet name yo.
So, if i import a chinese sub-machine gun it's not a problem?
Origin of the product is unimportant, they can ban whatever they want inside their own borders :p |
Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:47:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:wondered how long it'd take before "adam lanza" and "violent games" were put in the same sentence. longer than i expected, but it still happened.
Yeah I figured it was gonna come out the next day.
Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. So correct me if I'm wrong, but the government wouldn't be able to ban an Icelandic piece of software.
Also, you don't see people die in this game, which is probably what gets peoples' underwear in a bunch. Sure, every time you loose a battleship hundreds of poor SOBs get violently suffocated/frozen/blown to pieces. But you don't see it, so mothers won't care as much.
Also, sweet name yo.
lol You to :P
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:47:00 -
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Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. So correct me if I'm wrong, but the government wouldn't be able to ban an Icelandic piece of software.
Also, you don't see people die in this game, which is probably what gets peoples' underwear in a bunch. Sure, every time you loose a battleship hundreds of poor SOBs get violently suffocated/frozen/blown to pieces. But you don't see it, so mothers won't care as much.
Also, sweet name yo.
Also video games have been ruled as protected under the 1st amendment so anyone that wants to ban video games in the US can suck it "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:49:00 -
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There are probably more Americans now that play video games then don't and most of them have some level of violence.
So why every time your average run of the mill nut job does something heart crushingly to they read out a list of very average games played by the very average person their age. It is practically inevitable these days.
/Sigh
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RomeStar
Astra Research
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:49:00 -
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If an individual cannot tell the difference between a video game and realty than that individual should not play violent video games but whos going to stop them? Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
967
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:50:00 -
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Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered.
Google removes or buries search results they don't want people reading all the time.
But more on topic, i do find the prevalence of violence in videogames a little strange. Nearly every game is about killing. I don't find such games offensive and even enjoy some of them, but it still strikes me as unusual how they feature that instead of anything else.
But i don't necessarily think they're causing the violence. I think it may be just another symptom of people being more violent. Entertainers don't tell people what entertains them, they merely provide what already does. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Athena Stromgard
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:51:00 -
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EVE isn't violent. No blood, no gore. Hell, there isn't even physical fighting and there's only implied death. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
5878
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:51:00 -
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Long live pixels! Or wait they don't live that long apparently...
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Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
3916
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:52:00 -
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I should have been more specific in one of my statements There are no provisions of the US constitution that grant any individual the 'right' to do anything. Being born into this world gives us that right. It wasn't given to you by some fascist governing body. You own it. The First and Second Amendment only 'recognize' that right. As with all the Constitutional Amendments. Understanding this difference is more important than you might think. Considering the potential risks of having it taken from you. Know where we are headed? Down the road of Tyranny. Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:52:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. Google removes or buries search results they don't want people reading all the time. Yeah but to her point they are a private corporation and not near the only search engine, just the most popular one.
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Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:56:00 -
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here we go again with a mental case being blamed on video games.
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Dave stark
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:56:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:There are probably more Americans now that play video games then don't and most of them have some level of violence.
So why every time your average run of the mill nut job does something heart crushingly to they read out a list of very average games played by the very average person their age. It is practically inevitable these days.
/Sigh
i just find it laughable that they'd rather ban a few video games than ban guns.
looking at other countries the difference is the lack of guns not the lack of video games. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.12.19 20:57:00 -
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Athena Stromgard wrote: Hell, there isn't even physical fighting and there's only implied death. I can tell that you're not in the Navy. |
Ayumi Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:00:00 -
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Athena Stromgard wrote:EVE isn't violent. No blood, no gore. Hell, there isn't even physical fighting and there's only implied death. There isn't even implied death! We Don't Die!...........EVER!
Some videogames I can see as being way too violent. But, it's the parents responsibility to control what media is available to their children. They're looking for a quick fix, because parents are too ******* lazy...
Case in point. I worked for EBgames (GameStop in US) and I had a child come in with his mother to buy GTA: Broken physics edition. I asked the mother if she wanted to buy this for child. She said, and I quote. "Isn't it like Mario? That's what my child tells me."
It's not the industry, it's the parents.
Similar as blaming prostitution on the porno industry... Obvious alt is obvious... |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4568
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:01:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Athena Stromgard wrote: Hell, there isn't even physical fighting and there's only implied death. I can tell that you're not in the Navy.
What's an "artillery?" "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Besina Echerie
Vermona Collective
9
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:01:00 -
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America's media is as free as the Caldari media. You can have all the news your advertisers are happy to pay for. |
Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
3916
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:02:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:There are probably more Americans now that play video games then don't and most of them have some level of violence.
So why every time your average run of the mill nut job does something heart crushingly to they read out a list of very average games played by the very average person their age. It is practically inevitable these days.
/Sigh
i just find it laughable that they'd rather ban a few video games than ban guns. looking at other countries the difference is the lack of guns not the lack of video games.
Weapons are not the issue. PPL are the issue. Just 2 days before the shooting in CT a guy in Japan walked into an elementary school with a knife and started stabbing kids. If you take weapons away in the US, which can't be done even if they ban them. (there are to many in circulation) it will only take them out of the hands of honest people. Leaving most defenseless.
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights.
Record sales have been reported all over the US for weapon sales in the last 72 hours. Stores selling out of rifles and pistols in a single day. Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:03:00 -
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Parents expecting video games to raise their children and blaming everyone and everything but themselves non-shocker.
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Dave stark
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:05:00 -
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Az Tek wrote:Dave stark wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:There are probably more Americans now that play video games then don't and most of them have some level of violence.
So why every time your average run of the mill nut job does something heart crushingly to they read out a list of very average games played by the very average person their age. It is practically inevitable these days.
/Sigh
i just find it laughable that they'd rather ban a few video games than ban guns. looking at other countries the difference is the lack of guns not the lack of video games. Weapons are not the issue. PPL are the issue. Just 2 days before the shooting in CT a guy in Japan walked into an elementary school with a knife and started stabbing kids. If you take weapons away in the US, which can't be done even if they ban them. (there are to many in circulation) it will only take them out of the hands of honest people. Leaving most defenseless. "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights.
*shrug* i live in a country without guns, with knives and video games, and i don't remember the last time some one went in to a school and butchered a bunch of people.
either way, banning video games won't do anything to stop things like this. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
3916
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:11:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Az Tek wrote:Dave stark wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:There are probably more Americans now that play stuff
stuff Weapons are not the issue. PPL are the issue. Just 2 days before the shooting in CT a guy in Japan walked into an elementary school with a knife and started stabbing kids. If you take weapons away in the US, which can't be done even if they ban them. (there are to many in circulation) it will only take them out of the hands of honest people. Leaving most defenseless. "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights. *shrug* i live in a country without guns, with knives and video games, and i don't remember the last time some one went in to a school and butchered a bunch of people. either way, banning video games won't do anything to stop things like this.
Banning neither of them will stop things like this. If there is a will there is a way.
The US, as far as Industrialized contries are concerned, is the leading nation world wide for deaths pertaining to shootings. Freedom is not with out it's price. Then again, the Us is not as free as people would like to say. Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:11:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:wondered how long it'd take before "adam lanza" and "violent games" were put in the same sentence. longer than i expected, but it still happened. In the case of games like Eve, what may be more relevant is putting "Adam Lanza", "mental illness" and "games that encourage harvesting of tears" together in the same sentence. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
3916
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:13:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Dave stark wrote:wondered how long it'd take before "adam lanza" and "violent games" were put in the same sentence. longer than i expected, but it still happened. In the case of games like Eve, what may be more relevant is putting "Adam Lanza", "mental illness" and "games that encourage harvesting of tears" together in the same sentence.
To soon maybe? Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:13:00 -
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Jesus christ, they don't even wait a week for the parents to mourn before swallowing up an opportunity for their own political agenda.
The Prohibition of Alcohol never stopped people from drinking. The War on Drugs does not stop the distribution, possession or utilization of drugs. The American-Mexican Border Patrol does not stop illegal immigrants from entering America.
Stricter Gun Laws and a more "in-depth look" at "violent" video games sure is **** not going to stop someone from using guns.
Take a look at Britain. In the year Apr 2010 to Mar 2011 there were 11,227 recorded offences involving firearms. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
967
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:15:00 -
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Az Tek wrote:"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights.
Record sales have been reported all over the US for weapon sales in the last 72 hours. Stores selling out of rifles and pistols in a single day.
Everyone in Iraq has guns. People walking around with AK-47's all over the place. How is that working out for them?
All the guns in the world won't save you from tyranny or a modern army. They'll just fire a few hellfires or JDAMs, and blow your house up along with all your precious guns. I think most of the gun ban talk exists just to scare people into buying more guns, and they always do. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:18:00 -
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Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered.
lol. keep believing that..
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Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
3919
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:20:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Az Tek wrote:"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
One of the strongest reasons to not revoke our recognized rights.
Record sales have been reported all over the US for weapon sales in the last 72 hours. Stores selling out of rifles and pistols in a single day. Everyone in Iraq has guns. People walking around with AK-47's all over the place. How is that working out for them? All the guns in the world won't save you from tyranny or a modern army. They'll just fire a few hellfires or JDAMs, and blow your house up along with all your precious guns. I think most of the gun ban talk exists just to scare people into buying more guns, and they always do.
So what do you purpose? Bend over and simply take it in A**? Give up? Allow it to happen with out a fight?
Bane Necran wrote: I think most of the gun ban talk exists just to scare people into buying more guns, and they always do.
No, it's just how main stream media works here. It's horrible. The gun banning is extemly possible and some sort of gun control law to be passed is immanent. Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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Az Tek
the unified Negative Ten.
3919
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Posted - 2012.12.19 21:21:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Azitek wrote:Lucky for us, we live in the US, where the internet is unfiltered. lol. keep believing that..
LOL! I didnt even see that. We live in one of the most 'filtered' countries in the world. It's citizens are just to daff and naive to see it. Gÿú Client Manipulation: Overview Settings - Color Coding and More! Gÿú
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