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Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.20 06:14:00 -
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The great thing about your main = It's the sum of all you whims, misdirections and quickly fading interests.
But, to get in a black ops scorpion (what ever it's called) and being Gallente, I find myself in a position to fly a Rokh - SNIPER FIT! What fun! 120km out - BAM - target fo yo azzz!
Rumor has it they can reach 249km and so I'm working for that and can't wait to spring it on a few pirates that can't close fast enough to stop me.
So yeah... it's fun... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5542
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Posted - 2012.12.20 07:31:00 -
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This will end well MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1841
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:08:00 -
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What Malcanis said. |
Tsobai Hashimoto
FATAL Warfare Reckless Faith
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:24:00 -
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I have seen PL use the Rokh well in null sec with close range blaster fits that can melt fleets
As snipers.....with Covert Ops V and Sister Probes you might find a few not to friendly ships up close and personal a bit faster than you think :-P
Good Luck!
PS: Its a Rokh, dont even need that fancy of scanning stuff, but might as well use it and lock him down in about the time it takes to hit the scan system button |
XDMR
RED SQUAD Drunk 'n' Disorderly
12
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Posted - 2012.12.20 08:56:00 -
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Spacetrain in a nutshell
Step 1: Put blasters and faction booster on it Step 2: Make pixels explode Step 3: ????? Step 4: profit
On a more serious note, havent used the Rokh as sniper since Hybrid balancing. Would love to test it but not alot oppertunities in lowsec to use such a boat. Also 250km sniper Rokh is no rumor it does that without any problems.
X Some people say i fly Rokh... |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
24
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:01:00 -
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XDMR wrote:Spacetrain in a nutshell
Step 1: Put blasters and faction booster on it Step 2: Make pixels explode Step 3: ????? Step 4: profit
On a more serious note, havent used the Rokh as sniper since Hybrid balancing. Would love to test it but not alot oppertunities in lowsec to use such a boat. Also 250km sniper Rokh is no rumor it does that without any problems.
X
1. Have no tracking bonus and have no speed 2. Die to the first even slightly competent gang it meets 3.????? 4.Wake up in another station in your pod
(the rokh sucks as a solo bs) |
XDMR
RED SQUAD Drunk 'n' Disorderly
12
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:23:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:
1. Have no tracking bonus and have no speed 2. Die to the first even slightly competent gang it meets 3.????? 4.Wake up in another station in your pod
(the rokh sucks as a solo bs)
I beg to differ, the Rokh for sure is not an allrounder and does performe horrible in certain scenarios, but it most certainly does not suck. Just because you have to select your targets right does not mean it is an completly usless solo ship.
Give the spactrain some love plx <3
X Some people say i fly Rokh... |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
448
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:29:00 -
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This infamous space train is seeing a revival in popularity. A year or so ago, hybrud turrets were rebalanced. Prior to that, if you brought rails or blasters, (but especially rails) you were killed and laughted at, usually by your own fleet. And if you wished to pve in a rokh, the npc rats would laugh and tell you to fly a raven like all good caldari pilots should.
Now with the hybrids better balanced, the rokh is growing in popularity. Let's just hope the teiricide treats the rokh kindly. |
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
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Posted - 2012.12.20 13:33:00 -
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With 425 tech II rails and spike ammunition you don't even need the range bonus of the Rokh to hit that far. You will need aim good sensors to Target that far, and you will be in significant fall off, but you can certainly inflict pain from way the hell over.
The problem is people warping directly to you, either because you are on grid and more than 150 away, or because you irritated the hell out of someone that can probe you down (hardly a rare skill among those that like pvp).
Large jump drive is a new toy to help with this a little, and of course good fleet support with tackle to keep your Target out in the rain.
Mostly its just that there are a few mechanical game issues with snipeing. |
Cal Stantson
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
5
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Posted - 2012.12.20 14:00:00 -
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Even as an extreme range sniper the Naga has more DPS. Only thing the Rokh has going for it is its tank. |
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K0n Fus10n
Sellsword Incorparated
8
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:33:00 -
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/oblig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cexXOLXkXl8
/carry on
o7 |
Jeyson Vicious
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:38:00 -
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That was funny and is exactly how I feel. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
209
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Posted - 2012.12.20 20:12:00 -
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also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv7vPtXdWnk
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
61
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:27:00 -
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There's two things working against a Rokh:
1. it has no damage bonus 2. there's no direct upgrade to it.
No. 1 means that Naga will perform better as a sniper in many situations, because it will bring more damage to the table. As a blaster boat, it's a bit of a sidegrade to Megathron and fairly popular as a low sec boat. No. 2 decreases its popularity considerably - while the caldari missile line or the gallente hybrid line get navy versions, the caldari hybrid line does not. This means that whoever gets to Rokh as a shield hybrid boat is either stuck here or has to skill into a different line, making the original run redundant in the first place. To make matters worse, Moa was and Ferox still is inferior to its gallente counterparts.
However, in the ship's defense, this does seem to be changing. With caldari hybrid line getting a damage bonus and the introduction of ASBs and MJDs, there are some fun builds for the Space Shotgun and it's seeing a bit of a rebirth. Personally I love it, I just wish there was a navy version of it too.
Quote:With 425 tech II rails and spike ammunition you don't even need the range bonus of the Rokh to hit that far. You will need some good sensors to Target that far, and you will be in significant fall off, but you can certainly inflict pain from way the hell over.
Of course, you can downgrade the ammo and achieve higher damage at lower range. The only problem is that Naga gets a range AND a damage bonus, whereas the Rokh only rolls with a range bonus. |
K0n Fus10n
Sellsword Incorparated
9
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:36:00 -
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Had not seen that one, my thanks. And ROFL at "cause we killed your Erebus..." oh my...
o7 |
Bloody Wench
269
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Posted - 2012.12.21 02:29:00 -
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Mike Voidstar wrote:...
The problem is people warping directly to you, either because you are on grid and more than 150 away, ....
Mostly its just that there are a few mechanical game issues with snipeing.
Your knowledge of game mechanics is about as good as your literacy.
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Crrrazy Ivan
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
42
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Posted - 2012.12.21 12:28:00 -
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Rokh isn't famous...? it's used by three major coalitions in the game as a doctrine ship |
Zak'eni
Breathe.
2
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Posted - 2012.12.23 05:41:00 -
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Jeyson Vicious wrote:Rumor has it they can reach 249km .
This rumor is false.
They could reach 400 km, if there wasn't a targeting cap. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
203
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Posted - 2012.12.23 11:24:00 -
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slow huge crap what runs out of cap way too quickly |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
178
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Posted - 2012.12.23 11:30:00 -
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Why is the Rokh not more famous?
Coz it's at the high end of famousness... |
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Judas Lonestar
Wormbro Ocularis Inferno
12
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:29:00 -
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I love the thing, but have only used them on Buck. Fit up some Neutrons and energy nuet, ASB's, mag stabs and go have fun. Prop mod ranges from nice to necessary.
It damn sure isnt the best BS out there, but after having made a good show against some Amarr BS's with it I wouldnt just hoist the Jolley Roger and charge confident in a win. |
Martineski
Weapons for Mass Destruction
3
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:26:00 -
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i hope the rokh keeps its shield bonus, it needs it. not to mention the caldari losing shield resistances is kinda pointless unless they give the ships that lose the resistance bonus a buff to shield HP. Caldari are supposed to be the SHIELD/RANGE faction. but CCP seems to be making most of the rail boats close range for some unknown reason i.e. the Merlin and the Moa. not to mention this meager 5% bonus to the weakest turret platform in the universe doesn't to it justice anyway. Let the Gallente keep the damage bonuses, let the caldari get tracking or ROF bonuses instead of damage.
as for the Rokh performance wise i like its ability to rain shards of death from range, while being able to rep what little damage manages to hit you. while on the flip side the shield resistance bonus helps the Rokh survive at close range while using blasters to kill your enemies, or just survive long enough for your alllies to come save your butt.
Upgrade wise i would either like to see a Navy Issue of the Rokh, or a Tech 2 version. |
Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
205
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:27:00 -
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MJJ try it. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Hulk Miner
SKOOKUM TUMTUM
1
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:50:00 -
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Dont forget about the mining Rokh with them Laser II's. It was legendary. |
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
18
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Posted - 2012.12.26 03:08:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:
Your knowledge of game mechanics is about as good as your literacy.
Nothing wrong with either.
Combat Probes work just fine, and all you need is a good interceptor pilot to close in and the rest of his fleet can warp to him so long as he's better than 150km away.
Granted, said interceptor runs a fair risk of getting blapped on his way in, but between lock times and large turret tracking its not that hard to do. |
Sean Parisi
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
71
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Posted - 2012.12.26 06:38:00 -
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The Rokh is a versatile ship that is able to field a great tank as well as decent damage projection from a variety of ranges. With blasters it can hit out to 40km, dealing competitive damage. It can also use rail guns in order to have decent DPS with versatile range management. I am curious as to how well it would tracking using Javelin though. |
Lugia3
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
171
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Posted - 2012.12.26 08:08:00 -
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Because of the dual-plateed web+scram Blaster Megathron that puts out 1000 gun DPS with the tracking to hit interceptors. Did I mention it has ~200k EHP? Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396 |
Detenal
Imperial Combat Engineers Empire of Arcadia
6
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Posted - 2012.12.26 08:51:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Because of the dual-plateed web+scram Blaster Megathron that puts out 1000 gun DPS with the tracking to hit interceptors. Did I mention it has ~200k EHP?
Care to post this fit? |
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