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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
258
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Posted - 2013.01.01 18:58:00 -
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I've been on this planet for over fifty years and not needed nor wished to have an instrument which was designed to shackle one into debt. And I do not intend to start now.
So, does this mean that I am going to be excluded on the grounds of Clear and Prudent Thinking? |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
258
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Posted - 2013.01.01 19:12:00 -
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Marcel Devereux wrote:gfldex wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:I cannot wait to dig into this! :D Looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with using it. Did you read and understood section 12.4? You might find yourself in a situation where your career is directly effected by this license agreement. Just move to California. Section 12.4 can't be enforced there.
It can't be enforced in a lot of places; it will be classed as Restriction of Trade and that is heavily frowned upon.
I used to love such clauses in my past contracts; by having that in a contract it meant that I could have it terminated at any time on the grounds of it being a not-legal instrument. That's got me out of a few horrible contracts in the past.
I am looking forward to coding against this API for sure. I have a couple of applications in mind.
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Tici Toc
Posique Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.01.03 16:17:00 -
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1) The developer cannot be responsible for filtering a 3rd party Ad network. CCP must approve an Ad network outright. 2) If CCP starts charging for CREST then the developer must be allowed to charge for the app
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Khaim Khal
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
8
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Posted - 2013.01.03 18:20:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Marcel Devereux wrote:Just move to California. Section 12.4 can't be enforced there. It can't be enforced in a lot of places; it will be classed as Restriction of Trade and that is heavily frowned upon. I used to love such clauses in my past contracts; by having that in a contract it meant that I could have it terminated at any time on the grounds of it being a not-legal instrument. That's got me out of a few horrible contracts in the past.
Section 12.15 (Interpretation) has some language about severability. I'm guessing the contracts to which you are referring did not have such a clause? |
Kelath Erebus
Galactic Imperium Galactic Industrial Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.01.06 18:43:00 -
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I guess my views echo a few others...
First off, without a sizable traffic flow you're not going to be able to support your own private ad network in order to restrict certain types of ads. You're not going to be able to get that sizable traffic flow without a sizable income flow to cover the costs of your servers and support infrastructure. So either select a specific, widely used ad network that any site can easily utilize that will return a sizable profit to cover costs or the ad restrictions need to be removed.
Secondly. Some developers are interested in creating apps that can be run by individual players (EVE Mon, EVE Fitting Tool, etc.) or are based on a centralized website with a small traffic foot print, for these individuals this free license works great. They can build what they want and not worry about having to really cover any significant costs. However... Some developers are interested in creating large platforms which cost money to maintain (eve-kill.net, eve-commander.com, etc.), depending on their size these costs may cover not just servers, but additional support infrastructure, for these developers this free license is to restrictive. My only suggest would be to maintain the free license but also provide the original $99/year license so that developers can choose whether they want to have the ability to charge pilots (isk or real currency) for services or whether they're happy just l |
Evanova Android
Traquenard Labs
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:16:00 -
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CCP Zero Gravitas wrote:Hooray! Looking forward to seeing what you all build with CREST!
How about commenting on all the suggestions and various comments on this forum? |
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CCP Seagull
C C P C C P Alliance
49
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Posted - 2013.01.10 18:06:00 -
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Just a note to say that work is in progress to address many comments and issues from this thread - and also that DUST joining Tranquility today means CREST is now in full production - which is a big big technical step on the way to making it available to 3rd party developers. (CREST is how DUST clients communicates with Tranquility)
More soon!
/CCP Seagull Technical Producer CCP Games Reykjavik |
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
715
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:45:00 -
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Seagull noted that source code will no longer be a requirement:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2464800#post2464800 |
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices Yulai Federation
58
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Posted - 2013.01.21 07:36:00 -
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May I ask what kind of features can we expect in CREST in the future?
I'm concerned about a few things. Like if you allow market orders to be queried and bumped, then making marketing bots will become easier than ever, however it could still have a legal use case which is useful. There are similar areas which could have unwanted effect, when used improperly.
So, could we have some thoughts/plans shared on what features can we expect here?
Thanks |
Artem Valiant
NecroRise Squadron
26
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Posted - 2013.01.22 06:38:00 -
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Any news about beta test? |
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Chimordy
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:49:00 -
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Great to hear CREST is now in production. When you say Quote:CREST is how DUST clients communicates with Tranquility does that mean all communications between DUST and Tranquility use CREST or is it a subset?
Is there an approximate release date yet for Beta test release? Next month, summer, or 2014?
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Pollo Rico
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:52:00 -
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CCP Zero Gravitas wrote:Hooray! Looking forward to seeing what you all build with CREST!
Pollo he not approve of CCP hanging carrot over Pollo's head. Pollo liken this to - - - Hey Pollo Jr.... Pollo Sr., he get you sand box. But sand... Pollo Sr think that come to you later. Pollo Sr dont know when... So, Pollo Sr, he want Pollo Jr to stare at empty sandbox. Pollo Jr, he not want to look at sand box instructions... Pollo Jr... he want to play in Sand....
CCP, Pollo... he not approve of the "when its done" mentality. Pollo like to know when Pollo can play with this API instead of reading about how it work. That is all. http://tinyurl.com/Pollo-Approves |
Risingson
51
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Posted - 2013.02.07 14:08:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxVxIFAQP5I Eveeye.com Bordcomputer Systems |
Nig C
Project Stealth Squad The Initiative.
2
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Posted - 2013.02.08 21:10:00 -
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Quote:Das CREST-Syndrom (Synonym: limitierte systemische Sklerodermie, lSSc, Thibierge-Weissenbach-Syndrom) z+ñhlt zu den Autoimmunerkrankungen der sogenannten Kollagenosen. Diese Erkrankungen entstehen, wenn das Immunsystem beginnt, k+¦rpereigene Strukturen anzugreifen. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CREST-Syndrom
regards, Nig C |
Chimordy
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2013.02.11 16:32:00 -
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Since there hasn't been an answer, I am going to guess the answer to my question I asked 2 weeks ago......2014 if we are lucky.
Quote:Is there an approximate release date yet for Beta test release? Next month, summer, or 2014? |
Laendra
Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
4
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Posted - 2013.02.23 18:42:00 -
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Buckingham in Feb...Feb is almost over now... |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
781
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Posted - 2013.02.23 18:44:00 -
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They can't even keep the main API working at this point, and we've been told that external API is not really a priority... so at this point CREST is probably not going to happen for another year. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Black Legion.
470
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:03:00 -
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Quote:You can take ISK donations and Real Money donations to cover your costs, but you can't charge outright for usage, access or download of your application.
Assuming that "you can't charge" is referring to real world money as opposed to ISK?
Quote:You are not allowed to make whole new game products.
So, a lottery site, which is technically a whole new game product, is not allowed?
linky The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Black Legion.
470
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:19:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:The source code disclose is a show stopper.
It actually goes further than that, the exact letter is...
Quote:to inspect the workings of the Application, including but not limited to its source code
So technically if you host a service / website you just signed away access to your servers etc to CCP whenever they want. The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Dino Boff
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
25
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:27:00 -
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Can we have an update about CREST release? |
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Dino Boff
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
25
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:06:00 -
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bump |
Teh Supah
Brave Newbies Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.04.21 16:09:00 -
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bump |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1324
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Posted - 2013.04.21 16:45:00 -
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I wouldn't expect an update until fanfest now. There's a devtrack presentation on it. And it's being live streamed iirc.
1pm GMT, Thursday. Steve Ronuken for CSM 8 Handy tools and SDE conversions Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Chimordy
Genstar Inc Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:05:00 -
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Did CCP make any announcements about CREST at fanfest? |
Iam Farve
DH consulting
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 12:09:00 -
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They need to sort out licencing, then release the new dev website, then SSO and then CREST (with same limited scope to start with as announced before). No ETA was given. |
Patrick Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
8
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:20:00 -
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update this thing plz, i would love to see some of CREST activated along with odessy. at least let us have a CREST mail API so we can have spell check enabled mailers and mailers where you can sort the people you want to talk to efectively. and MAYBE a contacts setter, so when you start an alt or a new corp you can port them over right quick? a couple of things that don't go far beyond what the EVE gate lets you do now, a way to iterate on the EVE gate without spending dev time, throw us a bone, come on. i kind of wish i could update research with a tool, but i can see how that could be broken be someone automating it, or using it to cancel corp jobs without logging in and betraying yourself, i just want some things that are (mostly) harmless and the same as what the EVE gate does. pretty plz with cherry on top? or at least an update on when it will go live |
Twart Coder
RinduWaffe Panic Legion - Please don't shoot
0
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Posted - 2013.07.18 09:34:00 -
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CCP, can you make any announcements about CREST? |
Rob Crowley
State War Academy
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:00:00 -
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Twart Coder wrote:CCP, can you make any announcements about CREST? FYI, there are some tidbits of new information in this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=257854 |
Malus Sentio
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.09.20 05:57:00 -
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Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
208
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:38:00 -
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After reading throw this whole thread, and reading the devblog. I can only say this, i will not touch CREST with 5 feet stick until licencing gets some common sense into it. What CCP seems to forgot that these 3rd party apps make their game better by providing services CCP haven realized are needed or is too busy to make themselves..
Current licensing terms seems favor CCP a bit too much for my taste. Will not recommend anyone signup for this.
Also why only credit card verification? Not everyone has one, nor need one. Personally i pay eve throw Paypal bought timecodes. This way no criminal hacker that brakes someone elses system, can clear my bank account by missuseing card information. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
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