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Grondi Mar
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.23 04:43:00 -
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I have played World of Warcraft (guildless) for over a year, finally reaching Level 14. It has a steep learning curve, and a big grind.
In my first four hours of EVE play today, this community has been much more helpful and welcoming than WoW for a year. The EVE learning curve is everything XKCD promised, and so far it looks like the fun will be in proportion to the investment. Ask me in 14 days if I am still here! |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4700
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Posted - 2012.12.23 04:45:00 -
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Hope you stay, get a haircut "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Ferahgo
Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army
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Posted - 2012.12.23 06:48:00 -
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And year to reach 14? Did you mean 60-90 (depending on how many expansions you have) and wow is quite simple compared to eve Soooo hope you make it here! Fly safe |
Tomar Martens
British Federation Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2012.12.23 07:21:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:I have played World of Warcraft (guildless) for over a year, finally reaching Level 14. It has a steep learning curve, and a big grind.
In my first four hours of EVE play today, this community has been much more helpful and welcoming than WoW for a year. The EVE learning curve is everything XKCD promised, and so far it looks like the fun will be in proportion to the investment. Ask me in 14 days if I am still here! lol - WoW is so simple and 'back in the day' the 'grind' was the game - and many of us liked it that way. You ARE joking on the lvl 14 thing right? I mean - that takes about 2-10 hours at most.
Anyhoo - hope you like it here - the Help Channel is awesome if u haven't found it yet.
PS keep the haircut |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
635
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Posted - 2012.12.23 10:20:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:I have played World of Warcraft (guildless) for over a year, finally reaching Level 14. It has a steep learning curve, and a big grind.
In my first four hours of EVE play today, this community has been much more helpful and welcoming than WoW for a year. The EVE learning curve is everything XKCD promised, and so far it looks like the fun will be in proportion to the investment. Ask me in 14 days if I am still here!
Wait, WoW and a steep learning curve? When, where and what is your age?
A year to level 14. Did you play 2h at start and then another 8h a year later? Level 14 and 1 year is hardly a hard goal Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
Harper Thane
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.23 10:48:00 -
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I played WOW for about 3 months got to level 38 and I did enjoy it there was something missing couldn't put my finger on it.
So I tried Eve 14 day trial about 3 months ago and loved it but when my trial ran out I was gutted I couldn't create a permanent account due to work commitments but now I have time and signed up yesterday, god I missed this beast of a game.
Advice try for a month before u decide because the trial version stops u from doing certain things.
Enjoy |
sh4dow FIX
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.23 14:46:00 -
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I feel like something is missing here. Like a 1 at the beginning of 14, who knows :unsure:
Just started EVE last night at the constant requests of a friend. I'm more than planning to pay for this game :) |
Praxis Ginimic
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Posted - 2012.12.23 17:06:00 -
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I've never really been a gamer. About a year ago i did the WoW free trial. It was OK but there was no way I was going to pay for that game. It did wet my whistle though so i started poking around the internet for something better. I settled on battlestar galactica online, I'm a sci-fi fan so it was a good match but the devs are just terrible. Big Point can blow me. One day, while stating just as much on the BSGO forum some one said "its a free game dude, if you want something that doesn't suck then pay for Eve." I had never heard of it so I started the free trial expecting another top-down space shooter type game and found m new addiction. That was back in June. I never looked back.
Sorry for the tl;dr story time there. The point is welcome to the best game ever. |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2012.12.23 17:40:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote: over a year, finally reaching Level 14.
obvious troll is obvious. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Grondi Mar
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 04:16:00 -
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Troll? I am flattered! The truth is, I am a casual player, no matter how much I want to be a hardcore gamer. I will never be an accurate, fast twitcher, so I lean towards the RPG genera.
I played Wow about 30-40 hours (solo) over the last year. I have moved from level 7 to 14 in the last month, so I am getting better... but nothing to brag about.
What does the Eve trial prevent me from doing? So far, it is just hard to play. Much harder than Wow. Good thing I am starting to "get" it. I just brought up an Alt, and it was fun redoing everything that Grondi did wrong. Unfortunately the Alt can't learn, because Grondi is undergoing training right now. I suppose I will figure that out soon enough.
Thanks for all your replies and encouragement. One of you on the chat said: "even if we are enemies, welcome and good luck." That is classy!
I have tons of questions, most of which will be sorted out with practice. Here are two I should throw out: 1) How important is it to join a corp? 2) what questions should I be asking!
Thanks! |
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ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:40:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:Troll? I am flattered! The truth is, I am a casual player, no matter how much I want to be a hardcore gamer. I will never be an accurate, fast twitcher, so I lean towards the RPG genera.
I played Wow about 30-40 hours (solo) over the last year. I have moved from level 7 to 14 in the last month, so I am getting better... but nothing to brag about.
What does the Eve trial prevent me from doing? So far, it is just hard to play. Much harder than Wow. Good thing I am starting to "get" it. I just brought up an Alt, and it was fun redoing everything that Grondi did wrong. Unfortunately the Alt can't learn, because Grondi is undergoing training right now. I suppose I will figure that out soon enough.
Thanks for all your replies and encouragement. One of you on the chat said: "even if we are enemies, welcome and good luck." That is classy!
I have tons of questions, most of which will be sorted out with practice. Here are two I should throw out: 1) How important is it to join a corp? 2) what questions should I be asking!
Thanks!
Welcome Grondi Mar!
I'm ISD Athechu from ISD:STAR (Support, Training and Resources). ISD:STAR is apart of the official Volunteer group from CCP. We (volunteers) dedicate our time to helping new players out learning the game and answer questions you might have.
To answer your questions:
1) http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Trial_account_limitations <- Trial Account Limitations tells you what you can't do basically.
2) You can only be training 1 pilot on an account at a time. Most players usually expand into 2 accounts so they can have 1 as a "Main" and a 2nd as an Alt (alternative) account to use. The reason mostly for this is so they can train 2 pilots at the same time instead of limited to just 1.
3) Most people will say it's very important as a lot of this game is community oriented. But there are people who play solo and don't join a corporation (or if they do they make their own and just make it a 1 man corporation). Personally I enjoy meeting new people and flying with others brings a different aspect to the game. There are parts of the game where you can't do solo (unless you got a bunch of alt accounts).
4) I would say check out http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Rookie_Help_Channel_FAQ it covers 90% of the questions we get in the Help Channels. But simply if you don't get how something works just ask :)
Well hope it helped feel free to ask more questions :) ISD Athechu Commander ISD STAR (Support Training and Resources) EVE New Citizens Q&A Resources |
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Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:48:00 -
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Eve has a very forgiving learning curve.
Here is a helpful Chart comparing it to Wow, and some other older games. |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
767
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Posted - 2012.12.24 09:06:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote: I have tons of questions, most of which will be sorted out with practice. Here are two I should throw out: 1) How important is it to join a corp? 2) what questions should I be asking!
Thanks!
You come to a Questions & Answer forum and then ask which question you should ask?
Really....
1.) Corps can be really important but also a PITA. It depends on you as a player and the corp you join.
2.) How do I give my stuff away (as a replacement question)?
Well, go to assets, select them all, right click them and create contract.
Set the contract to private and type in J'Poll and then hit enter 6 times after that...
EDIT:
Trial accounts are limited in only 1 way. They can't train all the skills in EVE. They can't train industrial ships and anything bigger then a cruiser. This is mainly to prevent throw away alts by veteran players.
And cause everybody is throwing links at you:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
Jemar Tzitzimitl
Galactic Imperium
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Posted - 2012.12.24 09:24:00 -
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Welcome. glad to have another capsuleer.
One of the important questions you need to ask yourself is what do you want to do? Here is a GAINT chart that shows the professions/activities you can do http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
I know this all seems confusing but in time you will understand it.
so continuing with what do you want to do. Do you like blowing up stuff? then combat may be your thing. Do you like the thrill of selling something more than you paid for it? Then you could be a trader. Do you enjoy mining asteriods? Then miner is likely your thing. The list goes on and on.
These questions should guide you to what you enjoy to do. If for some reason you still can't figure out what to do. Then get the certificate called Core Competency. Then go out and train everything. one thing at a time.
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture Beyond The Dark
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Posted - 2012.12.24 09:26:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:I have played World of Warcraft (guildless) for over a year, finally reaching Level 14. It has a steep learning curve
....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
seriously?
I recently picked the Game-that-must-not-be-named back up to play with a few friends of mine, and within a month I went from 1 to 56 or so.
And if you think that *modern* WoW has a steep learning curve..... |
Chymo Trypsin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:31:00 -
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There is no way this is not a troll post |
Dave stark
893
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:41:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:Troll? I am flattered! The truth is, I am a casual player, no matter how much I want to be a hardcore gamer. I will never be an accurate, fast twitcher, so I lean towards the RPG genera.
I played Wow about 30-40 hours (solo) over the last year. I have moved from level 7 to 14 in the last month, so I am getting better... but nothing to brag about.
What does the Eve trial prevent me from doing? So far, it is just hard to play. Much harder than Wow. Good thing I am starting to "get" it. I just brought up an Alt, and it was fun redoing everything that Grondi did wrong. Unfortunately the Alt can't learn, because Grondi is undergoing training right now. I suppose I will figure that out soon enough.
Thanks for all your replies and encouragement. One of you on the chat said: "even if we are enemies, welcome and good luck." That is classy!
I have tons of questions, most of which will be sorted out with practice. Here are two I should throw out: 1) How important is it to join a corp? 2) what questions should I be asking!
Thanks!
still think you're a troll, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt because this is the new players forum. eve trial just stops you learning a few skills, that's pretty much it. however, if you upgrade to a full account your remaining trial days are added to your subscription, which means there's no reason not to subscribe if you think you like it.
as for training, pick one character and teach it stuff, if you want an alt make a second account.
as for your questions. joining a corp isn't all that important. i've been in a few and now i'm back in the npc corp. might benefit you as a new player to find a corp just so you can ask people things but meh, i wouldn't say it's that important unless you can find a good one that fits you. and you should be asking anything and everything. if you don't understand it, ask. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Jose Black
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:04:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:I have played World of Warcraft (guildless) for over a year, finally reaching Level 14 Patience. You have it. Welcome and enjoy your stay!
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Dave stark
893
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:05:00 -
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Jose Black wrote:Grondi Mar wrote:I have played World of Warcraft (guildless) for over a year, finally reaching Level 14 Patience. You have it. Welcome and enjoy your stay!
taking a year to get to level 14 is the the definition of terrible, not patient. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Capt Starfox
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.24 15:59:00 -
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I've never heard of 1 year to level 14 in WoW, thought the impression I got from the OP was played on and off for a year; 30-40 hours of game-time past year just screams they weren't subbed the whole year.
OP: Try to understand what you like and set a goal for that. Missions, trading, mining, PvP, are just a few categories with many many more subcategories of what you can do in this game. This was the reason that got me hooked initially; there was so much that can be done.. do many things you can be. You want to "heal" fleets during Missions/PvP? Go Logistics. Want to be the Han Solo of the Space Lanes, get into a Blockade Runner.
I want to say the biggest problem with being a new player in this game is that so many try to be everything at once and then get discouraged when they suck at it. Try to figure out what you want to do/be and stick with it if you can skill-wise. Honestly, I think Missioning is a great start and can open doors to both various avenues of PvE and PvP. |
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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:34:00 -
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Chymo Trypsin wrote:There is no way this is not a troll post
You mean you ARE a troll? |
Caa Zhjick
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.24 16:40:00 -
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I'm a relatively new EVE player and have been playing for about two months. My previous MMO experience was limited to a week of WoW and a week of LoTR, both of which I gave up after figuring out what "grinding" is... I've never been a big fan of MMO's, and the typical faults of the genre seem to be absent in EVE.
I'm at 90 hours of game time already and have barely dipped my toes in the water. This game is massive, but the support system and community are incredibly helpful. |
sh4dow FIX
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:39:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:Eve has a very forgiving learning curve. Here is a helpful Chart comparing it to Wow, and some other older games.
Shouldn't the chart be reversed? Like, have time spent playing on the X axis, and gaming skill on the Y axis? The joke makes sense that way, but not the way it's drawn.
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Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
102
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:57:00 -
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sh4dow FIX wrote:Cindy Marco wrote:Eve has a very forgiving learning curve. Here is a helpful Chart comparing it to Wow, and some other older games. Shouldn't the chart be reversed? Like, have time spent playing on the X axis, and gaming skill on the Y axis? The joke makes sense that way, but not the way it's drawn.
Looking at it that way does make a lot more sense. must of been a typo on the artist's part. Yeah, that's it.
That chart still makes me laugh after all these years of playing. Looking back, EVE never seemed that hard to me. Probably because I got into a good corp in the beginning. Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2012.12.25 13:35:00 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:I've never heard of 1 year to level 14 in WoW, thought the impression I got from the OP was played on and off for a year; 30-40 hours of game-time past year just screams they weren't subbed the whole year.
40 hours for level 14 is also abysmal. to the point that the op should be embarrassed to even admit that. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
sh4dow FIX
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.26 20:02:00 -
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I actually started playing WoW a few days ago. With very, very casual gameplay, I'm already level 7...maybe 3-4 hours total of gameplay.
This game is arguably much better IMO...WoW is one of those things I grind at and play while I try to fall asleep lol. |
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
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Posted - 2012.12.26 20:55:00 -
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Tried WOW several months ago when Blizzard offered F2P up to level 20.
I now have 2 characters, one on the PVE server, and one on PVP. Both are/were max level after about a week or 2 of casual playing. Got a few tears on the PVP server when I rejected someone's duel request.
I really tried to get into WOW. Really, I did. I just got bored of the whole cartoony theme park atmosphere. Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.12.26 22:23:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Capt Starfox wrote:I've never heard of 1 year to level 14 in WoW, thought the impression I got from the OP was played on and off for a year; 30-40 hours of game-time past year just screams they weren't subbed the whole year.
40 hours for level 14 is also abysmal. to the point that the op should be embarrassed to even admit that.
This aside the community has to be good at educating new players because really only until recent history CCP's new player experience has been: "Here's your rubix cube now go **** yourself."
They made leaps and bounds in the npe in the past two years. Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
185
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:15:00 -
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Grondi Mar wrote:Troll? I am flattered! The truth is, I am a casual player, no matter how much I want to be a hardcore gamer. I will never be an accurate, fast twitcher, so I lean towards the RPG genera.
I played Wow about 30-40 hours (solo) over the last year. I have moved from level 7 to 14 in the last month, so I am getting better... but nothing to brag about.
What does the Eve trial prevent me from doing? So far, it is just hard to play. Much harder than Wow. Good thing I am starting to "get" it. I just brought up an Alt, and it was fun redoing everything that Grondi did wrong. Unfortunately the Alt can't learn, because Grondi is undergoing training right now. I suppose I will figure that out soon enough.
Thanks for all your replies and encouragement. One of you on the chat said: "even if we are enemies, welcome and good luck." That is classy!
I have tons of questions, most of which will be sorted out with practice. Here are two I should throw out: 1) How important is it to join a corp? 2) what questions should I be asking!
Thanks!
Here's an old post of mine explaining some stuff about casual play in EVE... It pretty much sums up a lot of the things many don't think about in such ways about this game - but few disagree with it "overall".
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=776066#post776066
The biggest thing is to find a group to join in the game. Being alone all the time - some find this workable but few are willing to stick around.
Trust in this game is ... As I put it in a different post --
Don't trust anyone but if you don't trust folks, you won't be able to work with them yet... Trusting and getting scammed is your fault. Going it alone and finding this game boring is your fault.
Cognitive dissonance or the juxtapositioning of 2 opposing imperatives with equal weight to each.
One major key to success with respect to remaining in this game is to find a "right fit" group to operate in. Without this, for most, the game dries up and gets boring pretty damned fast.
As such, shop with care - this isn't WoW, there are no safeguards against being slammed and trashed by others. As such, there are groups that only if your attitude aligns with theirs will they tolerate you around - they will literally trash the hell out of anyone that doesn't seem to appreciate their way of playing.
Do be careful but also you will want/need to find a group to fit in with if you plan on sticking around. |
Khergit Deserters
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Posted - 2012.12.27 19:38:00 -
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Welcome to EVE Forums-- where asking a new player question can get you called a troll, incompetent, and/or a half-wit. As Ray Liotta said in GTA, "Don't take it poisonal." 'The difference between you and me is, I know I'm crazy.'-á -The late Jack H.-- old Texas guy, professional fish poacher, wise man |
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