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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.23 19:20:00 -
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Hi folks welcome to EVE. I hope you are enjoying yourselves. I am trying to find out what attracts people to EVE. If you wouldn't mind please fill out this survey for me:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/W897RW2
I'll leave this survey open for a week then post some interesting raw data and statistics on in the General Discussion forums.
As a bonus, I'm giving away 100,000,000.00 isk to one lucky new person who:
1. Fills out this survey,
2. States where they saw this thread at.*
*The person will be randomly chosen from all who meet the conditions.
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Brony Robbins
False Friend Venture Group
0
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Posted - 2012.12.23 19:30:00 -
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I was drunk and it was on Sale on Steam. |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
49
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:14:00 -
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ehm
you want to read all the answers? a poll with the options would be faster to process |
Dave stark
859
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:23:00 -
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Randolph Rothstein wrote:ehm you want to read all the answers? a poll with the options would be faster to process
but they limit the quality of the answer. if he's genuinely interested and isn't under a time constraint, this is certainly the way to go. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
297
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:40:00 -
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Randolph Rothstein wrote:ehm you want to read all the answers? a poll with the options would be faster to process
Yes I intend to go through all responses by hand and classify them based on the response. I feel it will give a more meaningful interpretation versus a quicker more restricted multiple choice option. npc alts aren't people |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
49
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Posted - 2012.12.23 21:45:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Randolph Rothstein wrote:ehm you want to read all the answers? a poll with the options would be faster to process Yes I intend to go through all responses by hand and classify them based on the response. I feel it will give a more meaningful interpretation versus a quicker more restricted multiple choice option.
all right then,hopefully you wont need to go through 10 000 of troll responses
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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture Beyond The Dark
97
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Posted - 2012.12.24 09:37:00 -
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Seriously? You posted this in GD too.
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J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
1509
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Posted - 2012.12.24 13:52:00 -
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Himnos Altar wrote:Seriously? You posted this in GD too.
Thanks for the hint.
Confirmed and thus reported for cross posting on both. Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2012.12.24 13:54:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Seriously? You posted this in GD too.
Thanks for the hint. Confirmed and thus reported for cross posting on both.
CCP Falcon suggested I post this in New Citizens Q&A as well as GD after I asked him a question. npc alts aren't people |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
1509
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:02:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:J'Poll wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Seriously? You posted this in GD too.
Thanks for the hint. Confirmed and thus reported for cross posting on both. CCP Falcon suggested I post this in New Citizens Q&A as well as GD after I asked him a question.
Yes, lets ask teh biased Goon Dev for that.
Well, it's reported and CCP / ISD will look at it and act according to the rules, not the Goon rules. Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
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Dave stark
893
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:12:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:La Nariz wrote:J'Poll wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Seriously? You posted this in GD too.
Thanks for the hint. Confirmed and thus reported for cross posting on both. CCP Falcon suggested I post this in New Citizens Q&A as well as GD after I asked him a question. Yes, lets ask teh biased Goon Dev for that. Well, it's reported and CCP / ISD will look at it and act according to the rules, not the Goon rules.
j'poll confirmed for christmas grinch. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
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CCP Falcon
1560
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:29:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:La Nariz wrote:J'Poll wrote:Himnos Altar wrote:Seriously? You posted this in GD too.
Thanks for the hint. Confirmed and thus reported for cross posting on both. CCP Falcon suggested I post this in New Citizens Q&A as well as GD after I asked him a question. Yes, lets ask teh biased Goon Dev for that. Well, it's reported and CCP / ISD will look at it and act according to the rules, not the Goon rules.
Don't rumor monger, it's against the rules. If you feel that there may be an instance of Developer bias, please feel free to email [email protected].
Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but I've never been a goon and never will be. Playing in nullsec doesn't interest me, personally.
Coupled with that, this thread is perfectly fine here. Any further attempts to derail it will be dealt with as is appropriate.
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati -á || -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents
-- Disciple Of The Delicious Tea -- |
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J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
1509
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:45:00 -
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Still wonder why in the past (also by you CCP Falcon) cross posts from other forum parts were locked cause it was against forum rules as they didn't contribute to the forum or were in violation to forum conduct.
And sorry, but this thread is just the same as:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182758&find=unread
Be it that this thread make you fill in a form which the reward is linked at.
But think I will just petition and escalate it to senior GM Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
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CCP Falcon
1561
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Posted - 2012.12.24 14:47:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Still wonder why in the past (also by you CCP Falcon) cross posts from other forum parts were locked cause it was against forum rules as they didn't contribute to the forum or were in violation to forum conduct. And sorry, but this thread is just the same as: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182758&find=unreadBe it that this thread make you fill in a form which the reward is linked at. But think I will just petition and escalate it to senior GM
Feel free.
This person contacted us in advance to ask if it was okay, and was granted permission to do so.
Now, if you want to keep discussing moderation, which is a breach of the forum rules, that becomes a whole separate issue.
I'll ask you, just once more, to stop derailing this thread. CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Team -á || -á EVE Illuminati -á || -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents
-- Disciple Of The Delicious Tea -- |
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Max Godsnottlingson
Bitter Veterans
54
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Posted - 2012.12.24 19:09:00 -
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One thing to point out to new members, and especially anybody who is new to gaming.
The original poster is a member of GoonWaffe. Goons no matter what they call themselves, or may try to state that "We have changed" are a member of an on-line organization known as
"Something Awful"
Something Awful prides itself in how many games it's members can 'break' one of thier measures of success is how many people they can get to close account.
I would suggest that you never, ever, EVER follow a link posted by any member of the Goon movement. |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
1510
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Posted - 2012.12.24 19:14:00 -
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Max Godsnottlingson wrote:One thing to point out to new members, and especially anybody who is new to gaming.
The original poster is a member of GoonWaffe. Goons no matter what they call themselves, or may try to state that "We have changed" are a member of an on-line organization known as
"Something Awful"
Something Awful prides itself in how many games it's members can 'break' one of thier measures of success is how many people they can get to close account.
I would suggest that you never, ever, EVER follow a link posted by any member of the Goon movement.
Finally, someone with some sanity in him..
+1 Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
Zoe Athame
Aliastra Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2012.12.24 19:16:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Max Godsnottlingson wrote:One thing to point out to new members, and especially anybody who is new to gaming.
The original poster is a member of GoonWaffe. Goons no matter what they call themselves, or may try to state that "We have changed" are a member of an on-line organization known as
"Something Awful"
Something Awful prides itself in how many games it's members can 'break' one of thier measures of success is how many people they can get to close account.
I would suggest that you never, ever, EVER follow a link posted by any member of the Goon movement. Finally, someone with some sanity in him.. +1
please tell me you guys are joking |
mkint
932
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Posted - 2012.12.24 20:34:00 -
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Zoe Athame wrote:J'Poll wrote:Max Godsnottlingson wrote:One thing to point out to new members, and especially anybody who is new to gaming.
The original poster is a member of GoonWaffe. Goons no matter what they call themselves, or may try to state that "We have changed" are a member of an on-line organization known as
"Something Awful"
Something Awful prides itself in how many games it's members can 'break' one of thier measures of success is how many people they can get to close account.
I would suggest that you never, ever, EVER follow a link posted by any member of the Goon movement. Finally, someone with some sanity in him.. +1 please tell me you guys are joking An account hack wouldn't be a (known) goon m.o. (but never put anything past them.) They are much more likely to spread a computer bricking virus. Because that would be 'hilarious'. Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun. |
Max Godsnottlingson
Bitter Veterans
54
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:17:00 -
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Zoe Athame wrote:J'Poll wrote:Max Godsnottlingson wrote:One thing to point out to new members, and especially anybody who is new to gaming.
The original poster is a member of GoonWaffe. Goons no matter what they call themselves, or may try to state that "We have changed" are a member of an on-line organization known as
"Something Awful"
Something Awful prides itself in how many games it's members can 'break' one of thier measures of success is how many people they can get to close account.
I would suggest that you never, ever, EVER follow a link posted by any member of the Goon movement. Finally, someone with some sanity in him.. +1 please tell me you guys are joking
OK, I'll bite, knowing full well that I am probably replying to a Goon posting Alt.
No, sadly I am not joking, I wish I was. Please, don't take my word for it. Just Google 'Something Awful' and see what they are about. Oh, they will pay lip service to "Oh it's just harmless fun, we don't harm anybody' But you don't have to dig deep to see that their sort of "harmless fun" is the sort of fun that all bullies try to claim was intended when they are finally confronted over their actions. Look, Eve is a harsh game, it's a game that needs a thick skin to play. But the Goons, while pretending to hide behind the "Oh we just play hard" argument are only ever driven by how much upset and annoyance that they can cause. They even enjoy stitching up their supposed allies! Just ask about the Red Alliance Titan stitch up in Delve. I was there, I was a member of the force that helped kill it, and while we chewed away at it, not two systems away over a 100+ Goons suddenly had 'game problems' that stopped them coming to the aid of an ally who had tried to pull of a damned gutsy move, and then laughed after we took it down.
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:35:00 -
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Max Godsnottlingson wrote::words:
I am using www.surveymonkey.com to gather statistically measurable data to answer a question. They are an outside company that helps facility surveys for statistical research, feel free to google it. This survey will be closed in 6 days and the data will be presented on the EVE General Discussion forums once it has been interpreted. I'd really like as many new players to answer my question as possible so please do not "poison the well" here their input is very important and valuable. npc alts aren't people |
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Zoe Athame
Aliastra Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:37:00 -
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Max Godsnottlingson wrote:Zoe Athame wrote:J'Poll wrote:Max Godsnottlingson wrote:One thing to point out to new members, and especially anybody who is new to gaming.
The original poster is a member of GoonWaffe. Goons no matter what they call themselves, or may try to state that "We have changed" are a member of an on-line organization known as
"Something Awful"
Something Awful prides itself in how many games it's members can 'break' one of thier measures of success is how many people they can get to close account.
I would suggest that you never, ever, EVER follow a link posted by any member of the Goon movement. Finally, someone with some sanity in him.. +1 please tell me you guys are joking OK, I'll bite, knowing full well that I am probably replying to a Goon posting Alt. No, sadly I am not joking, I wish I was. Please, don't take my word for it. Just Google 'Something Awful' and see what they are about. Oh, they will pay lip service to "Oh it's just harmless fun, we don't harm anybody' But you don't have to dig deep to see that their sort of "harmless fun" is the sort of fun that all bullies try to claim was intended when they are finally confronted over their actions. Look, Eve is a harsh game, it's a game that needs a thick skin to play. But the Goons, while pretending to hide behind the "Oh we just play hard" argument are only ever driven by how much upset and annoyance that they can cause. They even enjoy stitching up their supposed allies! Just ask about the Red Alliance Titan stitch up in Delve. I was there, I was a member of the force that helped kill it, and while we chewed away at it, not two systems away over a 100+ Goons suddenly had 'game problems' that stopped them coming to the aid of an ally who had tried to pull of a damned gutsy move, and then laughed after we took it down.
So you're just butthurt at the goons, got it.
I know what SA is and I think it's ridiculous that you people think surveymonkey will brick your computer because someone in an alliance you dont like posted it. |
Max Godsnottlingson
Bitter Veterans
54
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:19:00 -
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Zoe Athame wrote:
Snipped a lot of "I said, you said" stuff that is on earlier posts here
So you're just butthurt at the goons, got it.
I know what SA is and I think it's ridiculous that you people think surveymonkey will brick your computer because someone in an alliance you dont like posted it.
It's not actually surveymonkey that I am worried about, but exactly how the data will be used. And take it from me, it will not be used for the greater good.
I am not "butthurt at the goons"m I loath everything that they stand for. They are bullies of the worst sort. They are cowards that hide behind the animosity of the internet. |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground Side Effect.
1511
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Posted - 2012.12.24 22:25:00 -
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Max Godsnottlingson wrote:Zoe Athame wrote:
Snipped a lot of "I said, you said" stuff that is on earlier posts here
So you're just butthurt at the goons, got it.
I know what SA is and I think it's ridiculous that you people think surveymonkey will brick your computer because someone in an alliance you dont like posted it.
It's not actually surveymonkey that I am worried about, but exactly how the data will be used. And take it from me, it will not be used for the greater good. I am not "butthurt at the goons"m I loath everything that they stand for. They are bullies of the worst sort. They are cowards that hide behind the animosity of the internet.
I agree with Max.
If it was that viable then:
a.) Make a proper questionnaire. Not some 1 question, fill in a box and done. Put some work to it.
b.) Address this and maybe CCP can do an official question round about it.
Either way, this is just Goon Propaganda. Wouldn't be surprised that those that actually put their names in the box or what so ever end up on some list. Old look Corporation recruitment thread Corporation Website |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
240
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:06:00 -
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for a bite of the tasty, tasty apple |
Petra Alleile
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:20:00 -
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If it's just a comment box, why use Survey Monkey at all? Just use a forum thread. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:40:00 -
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Petra Alleile wrote:If it's just a comment box, why use Survey Monkey at all? Just use a forum thread.
To answer both of you asking about the single comment box. I am using a single comment box because it allows me to get as much information as I possibly can. Once I have all of this information I can deduce categories based on the responses. The raw data, the statistics and my interpretations of the data will be made public once I have finished the analysis. The data is being used to answer a question asked I would like to know why people decide to pick up EVE. I hope this helps if not please ask me direct questions and I'll answer them as best I can. npc alts aren't people |
Petra Alleile
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:51:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:To answer both of you asking about the single comment box. I am using a single comment box because it allows me to get as much information as I possibly can. Once I have all of this information I can deduce categories based on the responses. The raw data, the statistics and my interpretations of the data will be made public once I have finished the analysis. The data is being used to answer a question asked I would like to know why people decide to pick up EVE. I hope this helps if not please ask me direct questions and I'll answer them as best I can . Well, here's the thing though. The data you're asking for isn't statistical nor is it measurable, as you said in a previous post. "A lot" of data isn't as good as "the right kind of data" which, heck, I could probably think of 10 decent questions in a few minutes. You're letting the respondents drive the data instead of the other way around, and that's a bad way to make any kind of survey.
And I'm not saying you're doing anything, but SurveyMonkey does give survey makers the option to record IP addresses. So, again, I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, I'm just saying it looks weird, especially when a response in a forum thread would work exactly the way the external link is supposed to work. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:55:00 -
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Petra Alleile wrote: Well, here's the thing though. The data you're asking for isn't statistical nor is it measurable, as you said in a previous post. "A lot" of data isn't as good as "the right kind of data" which, heck, I could probably think of 10 decent questions in a few minutes. You're letting the respondents drive the data instead of the other way around, and that's a bad way to make any kind of survey.
And I'm not saying you're doing anything, but SurveyMonkey does give survey makers the option to record IP addresses. So, again, I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, I'm just saying it looks weird, especially when a response in a forum thread would work exactly the way the external link is supposed to work.
You are incorrect it is nominal data it can and will be measured in a meaningful way. The IP address is the reason I did not ask for character names I have no way of telling who is what all those addresses will be used for is to flag duplicate responses. npc alts aren't people |
mkint
932
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:45:00 -
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Even if the survey taker is on the level, the point of the survey is still part of the meta game. Read the OP in the GD thread. The purpose is to go "hey, rookies don't even know what highsec even is! It needs to be removed!" The survey is biased and bad. Goon stated mission is "to ruin your game." Playing nice with ANY goon is working to make EVE less worth playing. Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1527
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:10:00 -
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I've removed a lot of off topic/unhelpful posts. Please remember that this is an area of the forums for newer players to learn more about the game and not an area for people to rumor monger and spew vitriol. Any further attempts to do so will be dealt with. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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