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Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:40:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:2x scram on a ceptor seems to work just fine most of them seem to mine semi-afk anyway, its like they never left high-sec.
also suicide gank them with t1 frigs in high-sec; thats also fun Can we have one of your KM's mate to see the fit? ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
Shylari Avada
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
187
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Posted - 2012.12.24 21:55:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:Can we have one of your KM's mate to see the fit?
[Ares]
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Signal Amplifier II
Warp Scrambler II Warp Disruptor II Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Small Nosferatu II 75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Can swap out Disruptor for second Scram. Capable of a jaw dropping 57.7 dps (67.9 OH) 4983 m/s Will likely get murdered by anything with more than 2 guns on it.
(If you don't care about throwing away isk on interceptors, use TS Scram and a M4 MSE) |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
915
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:32:00 -
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I love them, and I only build and sell them. And boy do they sell.
For a lot! Miners are crazy. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
229
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:37:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Why so meny hate here? you want more people in loe sec? you got it, dont kill the new visitors! They mad because they were all a bunch of closet miners and the new people are stealing their Jerbs. Fixed it for ya'. |
Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
42
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:40:00 -
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Smartbombs. One round of 8 should get rid of them without the worry of having them cloak or warp
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Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
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Posted - 2012.12.24 23:52:00 -
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Veronica Kerrigan wrote:Smartbombs. One round of 8 should get rid of them without the worry of having them cloak or warp
'One round of 8'? 8 SB's? isnt that about 10m isk? ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
Maire Gheren
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:00:00 -
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The way to get people to come and stay in low sec so you can kill them repeatedly is by having them able to not die when they come to lowsec most of the time. They come in once and get podded they never come back; if they don't get podded till the fourth time, and they almost got away that time, and they'll keep coming forever and get blown up many times. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
382
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:46:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Why so meny hate here? you want more people in low sec? you got it, dont kill the new visitors! and now some of you cry because they enter low sec and use cloak...
The big, bad peeveepee-ers don't want anyone to see them mining, so despite the pleas for more people in low, they actually can't let it interfere with their carebear'ing... Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
317
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Posted - 2012.12.25 00:47:00 -
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The Venture is remarkably similar to the old Skiff in tank and performance specs, but there are tens of thousands of them in active play where only a few people flew the old skiff.
The answer is to volley them, and you won't always succeed at that. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1999
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Posted - 2012.12.25 02:44:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:These things are all over low now!
Nippy little bugg3rs.
WhatGÇÖs your preferred technique for swatting them at gates and catching them in belts before they do one?
I think I see what you are saying. Let me translate for the rest.
" I am too lazy/stupid to figure out how to do some of the simplest things in this game. Can someone please hold my hand?"
Mr Epeen -ávOv |
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Angang Ostus
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
11
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:20:00 -
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Cane with 720s, max dps, max sensor boost should be able to one shot em at belts |
Jenavee De'amore
Perkone Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2012.12.25 04:56:00 -
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Darvaleth Sigma wrote:Jenavee De'amore wrote:Ovv Topik wrote:Jenavee De'amore wrote:Insta cane or something to that effect not work?
take it you're seeing far too many of them where you are :D Nope. The old MWD trick seems to work a treat. They really thought this little ship through!
They sound like tough little critters, wish you all the best with ridding yourself of the Venture infestation (sounds nasty to me)....
Jena o/ I don't mean to sound at all rude, but what is it with you and making your posts in italics? EDIT: The Ventures are awesome. They can get 3.5km/s with a basic heated MWD, with Skill Level 3 and otherwise poor skills. If they were fully skilled and with implants... they'd be really quite quick.
Didn't think anyone noticed that tbh. No offence taken, one post for you without italics :) Happy xmas!!
Jena o/ Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.... |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
240
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:17:00 -
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Once the Venture starts mining [lowsec] ores, what can you expect the income/hr to be? Surely not better than mining highsec in a Hulk? Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
869
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:28:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Once the Venture starts mining [lowsec] ores, what can you expect the income/hr to be? Surely not better than mining highsec in a Hulk?
You can mine things besides ore that are worth way more money. Gas clouds for example. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
GreenSeed
98
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Posted - 2012.12.25 05:40:00 -
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WH would be way more profitable and safe for gas, eventually noobs will realize they can easily scan a WH and mine it, or better yet, find a null WH. who knows... people might start popping pills again.
noobs daring to go to low... what has science done! |
Lledrith
Ex Caminus
4
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:08:00 -
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is there a way to make everyone happy for god sake in EvE?
low-sec is getting slowly populated, ore could become cheaper and more ships can be build for more mayhem.
people please stop crying before the almighty CCP nerf something new... |
Aditu Riraille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:22:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Once the Venture starts mining [lowsec] ores, what can you expect the income/hr to be? Surely not better than mining highsec in a Hulk?
Good question Siigari. I am using my Venture mostly in HiSec as I am new and trying out all sorts of things in EVE. But here is a rough estimate on what I can pull down in HiSec with only Rats and fellow miners as a concern:
Using 2 Mining Laser II at a rate of 190m3/minute it takes 14 cycles (7 per laser) to fill the Ore Hold. Add the occasional break for changing asteroids and interruptions for rats and I find that it takes roughly 30 to 45 minutes to make 1 "run" to fill my Venture, depending greatly on whether it's Veldspar at .1 volume or Plagioclase at .35 volume. Lately, I have been bringing in between 700k - 900k ISK depending on the price regardless of the ore type. Of course you have to add total time out and back as well, so maybe 750K per hour on the low side? Do we include just the time needed to mine or the whole process?
As far as LowSec goes- pure conjecture as I have only done it once in a Catalyst and got my *** handed to me. But going through the exercise- I would think a healthy increase of around 25-50% in time required by a Venture pilot just playing the avoidance game. After all, the point of being in LowSec is moot if you can't manage to get back out again and reap the rewards. That means fitting a cloak and some of the other avoidance gear peeps have mentioned above.
Second, the ores are a bit bigger volume-wise (Kernite 1.2, Jaspet 2, Hemorphite/Hedergite 3), so there is a reduction in time required to fill that 5000m3 ore hold in LowSec, but whether it will be worth it? Something tells me that practical experience would show that the risk in LowSec ends up being a bit too much compared to HiSec- considering your Venture and gear along with your implants is much more likely to end up as space pixels.
Then again, maybe my math is all wrong! I always did stink at math...
AR "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." T. S. Eliot -á-á |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
476
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Posted - 2012.12.25 06:48:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Skydell wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Why so meny hate here? you want more people in loe sec? you got it, dont kill the new visitors! They mad because they were all a bunch of closet miners and the new people are stealing their Jerbs. Fixed it for ya'.
tHAY terk R JERBs Ironic-áfact: In the future the pirates and PVPers will likely have no bounties on them, while the risk averse carebears will run around with "wanted" marked across their face. |
Aditu Riraille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:12:00 -
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Skydell wrote:baltec1 wrote:MY GOD ITS FULL OF BEES They do look like little bumble bees don't they!?
Oh, that's just GREAT!
Now I'm gonna have "Flight of the Bumblebees" in my skull every time I launch my Venture...
T H A N K S guys.....
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." T. S. Eliot -á-á |
Ronan Connor
17
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:20:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:These things are all over low now!
Nippy little bugg3rs.
WhatGÇÖs your preferred technique for swatting them at gates and catching them in belts before they do one?
Dunno what are you complaining about. Isnt that a "traffic buff" for low you guys always wanted? |
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Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:26:00 -
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Poasting again in another low sec needs more easy targets thread.
I will tell you that those little ventures must have a really low sig radius. Hard to hit. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
37
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:33:00 -
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Leave the poor things alone. Let them get fat, rich & lazy, and wait till they bring out their Mack, then pop that, and make them go back to the venture. I.E. let them breed! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1996
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:39:00 -
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The way to destroy the Venture is this:
1. Complain about them on the forums until they are nerfed. 2. Profit?
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
541
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Posted - 2012.12.25 09:42:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:The way to destroy the Venture is this:
1. Complain about them on the forums until they are nerfed. 2. Profit?
no no, to destroy the venture you shoot at it. preferably with one of the many types of weapon provided by EVE online.
indeed quite the shocking revelation. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
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Posted - 2012.12.25 10:07:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Leave the poor things alone. Let them get fat, rich & lazy, and wait till they bring out their Mack, then pop that, and make them go back to the venture. I.E. let them breed! Now that's the best reply so far in the whole thread! I hadn't thought of that. ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
Aria Ta'Rohk
Umkhonto We Sizwe
37
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Posted - 2012.12.25 10:36:00 -
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Insta. Locking. 'Nado. Edit: You can really crank some mean EHP out of these little submarines. In a test fit I got 6.5k using a MSE and an invuln with a DC in the low, along with extender rigs. I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |
Sentamon
411
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Posted - 2012.12.25 14:04:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Once the Venture starts mining [lowsec] ores, what can you expect the income/hr to be? Surely not better than mining highsec in a Hulk?
No but way more fun, takes about 2 months less to fit well, and if you die it's minimal loss.
One of the coolest ships CCP has ever made. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Sentamon
411
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Posted - 2012.12.25 14:06:00 -
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The great dilemma of out time, how to kill a noob ship with no guns and only 5k Ore hold.
looooooooolZerz!!! ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 14:14:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Tarvos Telesto wrote:Why so meny hate here? you want more people in loe sec? you got it, dont kill the new visitors! They mad because they were all a bunch of closet miners and the new people are stealing their ores.
Now this is a great line |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
151
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Posted - 2012.12.25 14:30:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Leave the poor things alone. Let them get fat, rich & lazy, and wait till they bring out their Mack, then pop that, and make them go back to the venture. I.E. let them breed!
This is a guy/gal who's thinking a few steps ahead, my oh my the tears they will get. |
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