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Brimstone Shu
CJ's Mining and Salvage
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Posted - 2012.12.25 14:45:00 -
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My idea is to make ice fields pop up in wormhole space and make them a little harder to scan down then your average grav site. I am having a blast living in WH space and just thought if this was a possible or plausible idea. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1897
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Posted - 2012.12.25 15:44:00 -
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No!
Allow PI to extract Ice blocks from Ice planets!
Leave Ice belts where they are! Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Brimstone Shu
CJ's Mining and Salvage
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Posted - 2012.12.25 16:27:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:No!
Allow PI to extract Ice blocks from Ice planets!
Leave Ice belts where they are!
I never considered this as an option. I actually like this idea. Discuss... |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1900
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Posted - 2012.12.25 18:45:00 -
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Brimstone Shu wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:No!
Allow PI to extract Ice blocks from Ice planets!
Leave Ice belts where they are! I never considered this as an option. I actually like this idea. Discuss...
Already proposed and discussed at length.
See Part 3 of 14 of this topic in F&I
And also see this pdf proposal in the Assembly Hall.
Feel free to add your 2 cents in either of those topics... Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.12.26 01:36:00 -
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No, however PI yes.
But only if the resources it requires to make the fuel arent ridiculous.
but honestly, its easy getting ice in to fuel multiple towers in a C6 static 6, what wormhole experience do you have? just asking since i honestly have not seen the need for WH-ice, and honestly, making wormholes fully self-sufficient could possibly be a bad thing, inviting too many easy-moders to enter, hole up, and never ever leave.
not saying its impossible to evict them, but every now and then you get that vindictive little **** that logs alts off in SB's and an orca full of ammo just to harass your occupation fleet for the next couple weeks.
plus you'd hurt the k-space market, since WH'ers buy shittons of fuel for POS's daily, you might see as much as a 5-10% drop in demand for fuel in jita. |
Mars Theran
Pod Kings
1361
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Posted - 2012.12.26 06:14:00 -
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Yeah.. not likely. Either it would be too easy, or it would be too much of a pain in the arse. There isn't any middle ground here.
Just make a new Grav that has Ice in it; problem solved. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1901
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Posted - 2012.12.26 06:21:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Yeah.. not likely. Either it would be too easy, or it would be too much of a pain in the arse. There isn't any middle ground here. Just make a new Grav that has Ice in it; problem solved.
I think it would be middle ground tbh.
You could either add grav sites with ice, and force wh players to sit there for days on end with macks trying to clear it....
Or you could put down 5 ice mines and have all the ice you need for a large tower at the end of a month.
Either of those above mentioned approaches tho, would save you the drama of buying it in hi-sec and smuggling it into a wh as with the present system. Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Hakan MacTrew
Caledonian Heavy Industries Sick N' Twisted
87
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Posted - 2012.12.26 06:48:00 -
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Given that W-space the only type of space without Ice, I'm guessing its to prevent them from being totally indipendant. Just like them not being able to mine moons.
Ice is just about the only reason anyone from W-space has to enter K-space. (Note I said "has to". You can build all your ships, modules and ammo in your wormhole.) MODULAR DRONES
MORE ORE SHIPS |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1902
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Posted - 2012.12.26 08:26:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:
Ice would become a PI product in those places where it was available, and soon, it would be similar in economic value to Tech.
Do you really want that?
Lol... I want what your smoking.
The only way you would ever inflate the price of Ice to match Tech would be to remove Ice from hi-sec completely and only allow it to spawn in certain 0.0 regions.
Given that I'm proposing that you be able to mine ice (at a significantly reduced rate than existing ice belts) on ice planets in whs and all over via PI, only implies that players will be able to tap a greater supply of ice in ways other than those requiring mackinaws or retrievers and massive ice fleets.... and forgo the hassle of moving it from empire space....
Who cares if certain players want to permanently live in a wormhole. The sites you run out there dry up given a certain time frame, the ability to keep a tower up indefinitely in a wormhole with an ice planet and the required planetary combos to make all the PI fuels required for Fuel blocks in the wormhole itself is of no consequence... eventually, you'll get tired of the PvE experience and possible the lack of targets.... or you'll stay out there forever and head back to k-space when you need to sell loot for isk....
Either way... neither scenarios end with Ice equaling tech in cost....
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Mars Theran
Pod Kings
1361
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Posted - 2012.12.26 08:33:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Mars Theran wrote:
Ice would become a PI product in those places where it was available, and soon, it would be similar in economic value to Tech.
Do you really want that?
Lol... I want what your smoking. The only way you would ever inflate the price of Ice to match Tech would be to remove Ice from hi-sec completely and only allow it to spawn in certain 0.0 regions. Given that I'm proposing that you be able to mine ice (at a significantly reduced rate than existing ice belts) on ice planets in whs and all over via PI, only implies that players will be able to tap a greater supply of ice in ways other than those requiring mackinaws or retrievers and massive ice fleets.... and forgo the hassle of moving it from empire space.... Who cares if certain players want to permanently live in a wormhole. The sites you run out there dry up given a certain time frame, the ability to keep a tower up indefinitely in a wormhole with an ice planet and the required planetary combos to make all the PI fuels required for Fuel blocks in the wormhole itself is of no consequence... eventually, you'll get tired of the PvE experience and possible the lack of targets.... or you'll stay out there forever and head back to k-space when you need to sell loot for isk.... Either way... neither scenarios end with Ice equaling tech in cost....
Actually, all you'd have to do is implement your idea and remove Ice belts. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
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Sean Parisi
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.12.26 09:09:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:No!
Allow PI to extract Ice blocks from Ice planets!
Leave Ice belts where they are!
This, This I would like. |
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