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Cas Mania
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
56
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:58:00 -
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Screw the prizes for the winners, where is my in game T-shirt. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
5591
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:07:00 -
[92] - Quote
I also am more worried about my damned T-Shirt! :o |
Guados
Everyone vs Everything
90
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:48:00 -
[93] - Quote
Still waiting for mails.This is ridiculous and mostly sad. 2nd in NEW EDEN OPEN TOURNAMENT My PvP Channel :-áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss |
madpsychc0killer
Solutis in Sanguis
35
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:57:00 -
[94] - Quote
I hope everyone gets their money soon, It's been far too long and should of been paid out by CCP straight after the tournie.
But......I'm warning you CCP........When Odyssey goes Live ..........I want my bloody T-Shirt.......or my poop is getting flung |
Gvraget Anun
nul-li-fy Nulli Secunda
17
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Posted - 2013.05.24 18:31:00 -
[95] - Quote
For almost 6 month, you manage do to what CCP? |
Lord Booya
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.24 21:42:00 -
[96] - Quote
Gvraget Anun wrote:For almost 6 month, you manage do to what CCP?
From what I can tell...... Third party here.
1) Managed to not pay rl money that was promised as a reward to the winners on NEO. 2) Up to the next patch, not implemented even a silly shirt for characters that was promised.... tbh i wont be surprised if the shirt doesnt make the next patch. 3) Banned half of the teams and players from the next Alliance Tournament with a date that was set prior to its announcement. 4) Allowed a small group of players make a better product in the SCL than any of the previous CCP tournaments have been.
So, they've done a lot! Its been a busy 6 months for them. |
Cas Mania
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
57
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:29:00 -
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Lord Booya wrote:Gvraget Anun wrote:For almost 6 month, you manage do to what CCP? From what I can tell...... Third party here. 1) Managed to not pay rl money that was promised as a reward to the winners on NEO. 2) Up to the next patch, not implemented even a silly shirt for characters that was promised.... tbh i wont be surprised if the shirt doesnt make the next patch. 3) Banned half of the teams and players from the next Alliance Tournament with a date that was set prior to its announcement. 4) Allowed a small group of players make a better product in the SCL than any of the previous CCP tournaments have been. So, they've done a lot! Its been a busy 6 months for them.
To be honest, I think your being quite too critical on your little assessment here.
1) CCP got screwed over as much as the winners did by whatever website was hosting the tournament (I can't even remember their name anymore and I don't care to.) While I do agree CCP should have made sure that everything was squared away before even starting the tournament, especially by having the prizes set aside, you should remember that no one paid to enter the tournament (except for the ships that were lost). CCP is doing their able best to make things right, and I am almost certain that the prize winners (by reading some of their previous posts, like the one guy who thinks his bank account number is the gateway to ruining him financially), are not making CCPs job any easier.
2) WHERE IS MY DAMNED T-SHIRT NO EXCUSE, YOU MESSED UP THE MOST IMPORTANT, EASIEST, PART OF THE PRIZES.
3)CCP did a really great thing by locking the date you had to be in the alliance by in order to play, I completely agree with this, and I actually surprised they implemented so a controversial but necessary limitation on the alliance tournament. This will only make the alliance tournament more enjoyable and competitive.
4)SCL is great don't get me wrong, they put a lot of hard work into it and I think it will be a great community service in the future. However, I don't think that you can make a clear distinction as to which one is better, after all SCL formed itself on the foundation of rules and formats that CCP built. The clear difference now is that SCL is being run a lot more often than anything CCP has done, so SCL will be able to tweak and perfect the rules, points, and format over a shorter period of time than CCP ever could.
So really CCP is doing what they can, they will get it done. While I don't appreciate CCPs time frame on the issue, I do believe they will stay true to their word. There was also some hints I picked up at fanfest from a few developers, that EVE tournaments are a back-burner game element to everything else, and that an extreme low priory is given to anything concerning them. I also know that there are few developers that are dedicated to making EVE tournaments a great and wonderful experience shared by participants and viewers alike, I think they will prevail. |
Cas Mania
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
57
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:39:00 -
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Cas Mania wrote:Lord Booya wrote:Gvraget Anun wrote:For almost 6 month, you manage do to what CCP? From what I can tell...... Third party here. 1) Managed to not pay rl money that was promised as a reward to the winners on NEO. 2) Up to the next patch, not implemented even a silly shirt for characters that was promised.... tbh i wont be surprised if the shirt doesnt make the next patch. 3) Banned half of the teams and players from the next Alliance Tournament with a date that was set prior to its announcement. 4) Allowed a small group of players make a better product in the SCL than any of the previous CCP tournaments have been. So, they've done a lot! Its been a busy 6 months for them. To be honest, I think your being quite too critical on your little assessment here. 1) CCP got screwed over as much as the winners did by whatever website was hosting the tournament (I can't even remember their name anymore and I don't care to.) While I do agree CCP should have made sure that everything was squared away before even starting the tournament, especially by having the prizes set aside, you should remember that no one paid to enter the tournament (except for the ships that were lost). CCP is doing their able best to make things right, and I am almost certain that the prize winners (by reading some of their previous posts, like the one guy who thinks his bank account number is the gateway to ruining him financially), are not making CCPs job any easier. 2) WHERE IS MY DAMNED T-SHIRT NO EXCUSE, YOU MESSED UP THE MOST IMPORTANT, EASIEST, PART OF THE PRIZES. 3)CCP did a really great thing by locking the date you had to be in the alliance by in order to play, I completely agree with this, and I actually surprised they implemented such a controversial but necessary limitation on the alliance tournament. This will only make the alliance tournament more enjoyable and competitive. 4)SCL is great don't get me wrong, they put a lot of hard work into it and I think it will be a great community service in the future. However, I don't think that you can make a clear distinction as to which one is better, after all SCL formed itself on the foundation of rules and formats that CCP built. The clear difference now is that SCL is being run a lot more often than anything CCP has done, so SCL will be able to tweak and perfect the rules, points, and format over a shorter period of time than CCP ever could. So really CCP is doing what they can, they will get it done. While I don't appreciate CCPs time frame on the issue, I do believe they will stay true to their word. There was also some hints I picked up at fanfest from a few developers, that EVE tournaments are a back-burner game element to everything else, and that an extreme low priory is given to anything concerning them. I also know that there are few developers that are dedicated to making EVE tournaments a great and wonderful experience shared by participants and viewers alike, I think they will prevail.
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Fafer
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
40
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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:49:00 -
[99] - Quote
Cas Mania, auction plexes were paid by the teams to enter the tournament. ;)
As for the rest, its simple
1. Plexes were handed out, medals too (they could have been less generic), team game cards, excellent work.
2. Shirts - that was CCP responsibility from the begining
3. 3rd party did not pay and CCP was within its rights to decline to pay up, and TBH I would understand that. However, CCP announced that they will, and from that moment they took the responsibilty. The fact that 3rd party does not exist anymore is now irrelevant. CCP could choose to pay out in plexes, that would cost them nothing. Some players even suggested that it would be acceptable.
Also I do not condone slacking and "low priority", if something is task, it should be done.
How to pay the prizes 1. Get the data and organize it - player names are on the team game cards, make a table, add names as first column - from the accounts information, add the e-mail as second column - send the e-mail (form sheet with bank account data has been sent already by Dolan), some players are complaining they have not received the mails yet - add received bank account into the third column
2, Anlyze the data and resolve problems - is payment info missing for some players? - send mail again, also evemail - state that if payment info is not received, you will drop plex equivalent on their character hangar in JIta after period of time - are they not adults to be able to receive money? - drop plex again - finance department or approval for cash missing - say you are sorry, blame 3rd party, drop plex to palyer hangars - some other problems? ask us for help or advice, either here or by e-mail, we will help - perhaps offer to all plex ?
3. Pay - give the table to nice lady in finance department, she will use e-banking and payment data to send money
How to issue the shirt rewards 1. Get the data and organize it - player names are on the team game cards, make a table, add names as first column - from the accounts information, add the e-mail as second column - send the e-mail with question about shirt size, and shipping data, like address, city, country (has not been asked yet) - add received info into the third column
2. Anylyze and order the shirts - send inquiry or see for yourself on the web page about the price of sending the shirts, you can check FedEx, DHL, or another applicable courrier, or Island postal service - order the shirts from the manufacturer, those are the same shirts you wore on the FanFest, doesn't need to be anything special, I like your black shirts (its a shirt, not T-shirt), although adding to your standard black shirt the player name and "NEO 2012" is trivial
3. Organize the shipping - courrier service can pick the shirts from manufacturer, or manufacturer can send directly, or to CCP, whatever is convenient
This can not take 6 months.
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Seldarine
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
273
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Posted - 2013.05.25 01:43:00 -
[100] - Quote
The NEO prize shirts were an in-game vanity item not real life clothing item. |
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Fafer
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
40
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Posted - 2013.05.25 01:57:00 -
[101] - Quote
Seldarine wrote:The NEO prize shirts were an in-game vanity item not real life clothing item.
Oh, I stand corrected, must be also the prize is in-game item http://www.eveiverse.com/items/a_lot_of_money |
Cas Mania
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
57
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Posted - 2013.05.25 02:14:00 -
[102] - Quote
Fafer wrote:Cas Mania, auction plexes were paid by the teams to enter the tournament. ;)
As for the rest, its simple
All plexes paid during the auction were refunded. No one paid to play, essentially. |
Mirkonix
Kumovi The G0dfathers
20
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:40:00 -
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To all
Please if you are not member of teams that expecting prizes, and especially winning team, do not advice what should be done with other people money. CCP is main authority here, and they should inform us about any problems with prize payment, date when prizes should be payed, and if they are not able to give us prizes, propose any other solution that WE are willing to accept. It's not ok if they just say, "hey we screwed up this tourney, here you go few plexes and thats done" I'm not going to accept that. |
Boiglio
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.05.26 12:21:00 -
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Cas Mania wrote:Fafer wrote:Cas Mania, auction plexes were paid by the teams to enter the tournament. ;)
As for the rest, its simple
All plexes paid during the auction were refunded. No one paid to play, essentially.
Not that it makes a huge difference in this case, but the quote here is incorrect. All PLEX *above the minimum entry of 10 PLEX per team* were refunded. Every team paid 10 PLEX to enter the NEO.
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Cas Mania
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
59
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:39:00 -
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Boiglio wrote:Cas Mania wrote:Fafer wrote:Cas Mania, auction plexes were paid by the teams to enter the tournament. ;)
As for the rest, its simple
All plexes paid during the auction were refunded. No one paid to play, essentially. Not that it makes a huge difference in this case, but the quote here is incorrect. All PLEX *above the minimum entry of 10 PLEX per team* were refunded. Every team paid 10 PLEX to enter the NEO.
Nope, as a team captain, I know for a fact that 100% of all plexes were refunded. I did not pay 10 plex to play I paid zero. |
Boiglio
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:48:00 -
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Cas Mania wrote:
Nope, as a team captain, I know for a fact that 100% of all plexes were refunded. I did not pay 10 plex to play I paid zero.
That's pretty interesting.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73531
"Now for the teams that paid more than 10 PLEX for their spot. The PLEX entry fee and auction has always existed to make sure that only the most dedicated teams enter and compete to be champions. We obviously have the 27 most dedicated teams in New Eden, and with slots left open it is obvious that the bidding process only served to punish the most enthusiastic teams. As such, any team that spent more than 10 PLEX in the auction will have their excess PLEX refunded to their team captain."
So either 1) you're misremembering, which as I said, not a huge deal 2) Nulli somehow was a special snowflake that was over-reimbursed or 3) CCP has delayed so long on the prize payments for the winners, that they've allowed us time to figure out that they owe 8CAS 10 PLEX. I suppose the fourth option is that Nopolar's been holding out on us, but that seems unlikely since he's the one that drew the short straw and was forced to attend the auction in the first place. CAS tends to go by the adage of "only grant control of your affairs to those who are reluctant to accept it, and then only under conditions that increase that reluctance."
Back to the topic at hand: CCP, pay the people. You also might want to change CCP Dolan's original post at the top of this to reflect what's actually happening with the situation. If you guys are so swamped that you can't keep up with what are frankly pretty basic workflow tasks, stop being such tightwads and hire more help. Honestly, could have hired a temp worker for one week and saved so much hassle and not-best customer perception.
~Boiglio, expecting her tshirt |
Nikuno
Atomic Heroes The G0dfathers
138
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:59:00 -
[107] - Quote
Boiglio wrote:Cas Mania wrote:
Nope, as a team captain, I know for a fact that 100% of all plexes were refunded. I did not pay 10 plex to play I paid zero.
That's pretty interesting. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73531"Now for the teams that paid more than 10 PLEX for their spot. The PLEX entry fee and auction has always existed to make sure that only the most dedicated teams enter and compete to be champions. We obviously have the 27 most dedicated teams in New Eden, and with slots left open it is obvious that the bidding process only served to punish the most enthusiastic teams. As such, any team that spent more than 10 PLEX in the auction will have their excess PLEX refunded to their team captain." So either 1) you're misremembering, which as I said, not a huge deal 2) Nulli somehow was a special snowflake that was over-reimbursed or 3) CCP has delayed so long on the prize payments for the winners, that they've allowed us time to figure out that they owe 8CAS 10 PLEX. I suppose the fourth option is that Nopolar's been holding out on us, but that seems unlikely since he's the one that drew the short straw and was forced to attend the auction in the first place. CAS tends to go by the adage of "only grant control of your affairs to those who are reluctant to accept it, and then only under conditions that increase that reluctance." Back to the topic at hand: CCP, pay the people. You also might want to change CCP Dolan's original post at the top of this to reflect what's actually happening with the situation. If you guys are so swamped that you can't keep up with what are frankly pretty basic workflow tasks, stop being such tightwads and hire more help. Honestly, could have hired a temp worker for one week and saved so much hassle and not-best customer perception. ~Boiglio, expecting her tshirt
The 10 plex not refunded by ccp was paid back to each team captain by Somerblink as a general sponsorship of the tourney (ie one that did not qualify for the plex payment to team sponsors from prize allocations) |
Ophelia Aivoras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:52:00 -
[108] - Quote
Nikuno wrote:[quote=Boiglio] The 10 plex not refunded by ccp was paid back to each team captain by Somerblink as a general sponsorship of the tourney (ie one that did not qualify for the plex payment to team sponsors from prize allocations)
But CCP still got their 270 plexes as entrance fees, didn't they? and i mean plexes aren't just isks. If someone invested real money to get these plexes for the entrance, getting back isks is not a real refund
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Boiglio
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:09:00 -
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Nikuno wrote: The 10 plex not refunded by ccp was paid back to each team captain by Somerblink as a general sponsorship of the tourney (ie one that did not qualify for the plex payment to team sponsors from prize allocations)
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Cas Mania
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
59
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Posted - 2013.05.27 21:18:00 -
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Boiglio wrote:Cas Mania wrote:
Nope, as a team captain, I know for a fact that 100% of all plexes were refunded. I did not pay 10 plex to play I paid zero.
That's pretty interesting. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73531"Now for the teams that paid more than 10 PLEX for their spot. The PLEX entry fee and auction has always existed to make sure that only the most dedicated teams enter and compete to be champions. We obviously have the 27 most dedicated teams in New Eden, and with slots left open it is obvious that the bidding process only served to punish the most enthusiastic teams. As such, any team that spent more than 10 PLEX in the auction will have their excess PLEX refunded to their team captain." So either 1) you're misremembering, which as I said, not a huge deal 2) Nulli somehow was a special snowflake that was over-reimbursed or 3) CCP has delayed so long on the prize payments for the winners, that they've allowed us time to figure out that they owe 8CAS 10 PLEX. I suppose the fourth option is that Nopolar's been holding out on us, but that seems unlikely since he's the one that drew the short straw and was forced to attend the auction in the first place. CAS tends to go by the adage of "only grant control of your affairs to those who are reluctant to accept it, and then only under conditions that increase that reluctance." Back to the topic at hand: CCP, pay the people. You also might want to change CCP Dolan's original post at the top of this to reflect what's actually happening with the situation. If you guys are so swamped that you can't keep up with what are frankly pretty basic workflow tasks, stop being such tightwads and hire more help. Honestly, could have hired a temp worker for one week and saved so much hassle and not-best customer perception. ~Boiglio, expecting her tshirt
Thinking back it is quite possible that we only got 26 plex back instead of 36, since I didn't get the refud via contract, I cannot say for sure. I cannot find the chat logs of that particular event either. While I am still 90% I got the full 36 plex back, I am willing to be wrong. |
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Nikuno
Atomic Heroes The G0dfathers
138
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:03:00 -
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Cas Mania wrote:Boiglio wrote:Cas Mania wrote:
Nope, as a team captain, I know for a fact that 100% of all plexes were refunded. I did not pay 10 plex to play I paid zero.
That's pretty interesting. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73531"Now for the teams that paid more than 10 PLEX for their spot. The PLEX entry fee and auction has always existed to make sure that only the most dedicated teams enter and compete to be champions. We obviously have the 27 most dedicated teams in New Eden, and with slots left open it is obvious that the bidding process only served to punish the most enthusiastic teams. As such, any team that spent more than 10 PLEX in the auction will have their excess PLEX refunded to their team captain." So either 1) you're misremembering, which as I said, not a huge deal 2) Nulli somehow was a special snowflake that was over-reimbursed or 3) CCP has delayed so long on the prize payments for the winners, that they've allowed us time to figure out that they owe 8CAS 10 PLEX. I suppose the fourth option is that Nopolar's been holding out on us, but that seems unlikely since he's the one that drew the short straw and was forced to attend the auction in the first place. CAS tends to go by the adage of "only grant control of your affairs to those who are reluctant to accept it, and then only under conditions that increase that reluctance." Back to the topic at hand: CCP, pay the people. You also might want to change CCP Dolan's original post at the top of this to reflect what's actually happening with the situation. If you guys are so swamped that you can't keep up with what are frankly pretty basic workflow tasks, stop being such tightwads and hire more help. Honestly, could have hired a temp worker for one week and saved so much hassle and not-best customer perception. ~Boiglio, expecting her tshirt Thinking back it is quite possible that we only got 26 plex back instead of 36, since I didn't get the refud via contract, I cannot say for sure. I cannot find the chat logs of that particular event either. While I am still 90% I got the full 36 plex back, I am willing to be wrong.
You got 26 back from ccp, then 10 donated by somerblink. So you got 36 back, but 10 of those were outside ccp. So it cost you nothing if you look at it that way, but ccp was still paid 10 plex per entrant. Hence we did pay ccp to allow us to enter this tournament. Alternatively you could look at it that if ccp had given a full plex refund then you you should have been 10 plex richer than before you paid your entry fee due to the generosity of somerblink, rather than at break even.
And I still have not received either money or email. My faith in Loxy's intervention is waning. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6017
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Posted - 2013.05.28 11:47:00 -
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I got paid 3 days ago.
I'm already poor.
...What I'd do for -ú44. :P |
Jassmin Joy
Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
130
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Posted - 2013.05.28 12:46:00 -
[113] - Quote
i totally forgot about this.
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DHB WildCat
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
223
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:28:00 -
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Jassmin Joy wrote:i totally forgot about this.
I think that was what they were hoping for jass 8) |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6039
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:33:00 -
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Btw I realised I nearly wrote a Haiku.
Then realised, actually I hadn't. |
Nikuno
Atomic Heroes The G0dfathers
138
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:56:00 -
[116] - Quote
Buhhdust Princess wrote:I got paid 3 days ago.
I'm already poor.
...What I'd do for -ú44. :P
Paid by CCP? or from other gainful employment? |
Thelonious Blake
76
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:28:00 -
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Bump because the guys deserve their prizes.
If CCP had honor they'd give the money from their own pocket. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6274
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:24:00 -
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Paid by CCP ofc!
Bumping this because, yeah. |
Guados
Everyone vs Everything
91
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Posted - 2013.06.03 17:24:00 -
[119] - Quote
Still nothing,LOL. Bump 2nd in NEW EDEN OPEN TOURNAMENT My PvP Channel :-áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss |
Nikuno
Atomic Heroes The G0dfathers
141
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:35:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Paid by CCP ofc!
Bumping this because, yeah.
No money, no email. Still a great big nada. |
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