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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2803
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:26:00 -
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I'm not sure how the Android vs World holy war is helping the discussion of why the forums aren't working on the OP's iPhone.
Has Aston Martin DB5 sorted his issues out?
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:At least you can browse like a pro (like a normal Firefox on a computer) on websites with Firefox for Android and other Android browsers. GǪmuch like how you can browse like a normal Safari user on iOS devices (and at 2048+ù1536 resolution). And Firefox is a horrid and obsolete old mess of a browser anyway. It has become the Nestcape it was intended to solve.
Can you use flash on your iOS device?
Can you surf on the internet on REAL web pages (not mobile optimized web pages sized for your mobile device)?
You can ofc surf normally on web pages that doesn't have a mobile web page. But tons of web pages have mobile pages today. And it's just getting more and more of it.
Can you install extensions on Safari?
Nope, Safari isn't even close to be a good web experience compared to Firefox or Dolphin Browser on Android.
EDIT: Dolphin Browser for Android is the best browser when it comes to speed and performance. Yes it supports extensions to. But the only reason i'm using Firefox for Android is because i can sync all of my bookmarks on my Desktop Firefox right to my Android Firefox. My current EVE videos.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10865
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:34:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Can you use flash on your iOS device? I prefer not to on a desktop, and there's no need to.
Quote:Can you surf on the internet on REAL webpages (not webpages sized for your mobile device)? Of course. iOS was the OS that made the whole idea of mobile sites slowly become obsolete (of course, Opera did it first, as always, but it didn't quite have the reach of iOS and Safari).
Quote:Can you install extensions on Safari? To do what, exactly? Again, I don't need any extensions on my desktop either, and I definitely do not need the catastrophe that is today's Firefox.
So yes, Safari is a good web experience. Granted, Opera is even better for all the usual reasons, but at least we're talking about two modern browsers with those two rather than an obsolete one. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:46:00 -
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Fixing my reply................ My current EVE videos.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10865
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:54:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Around 80% of the internet contains with flash materials. So why wouldn't you need that? Because 99% of it is ads and tracking software that uses the Flash cache to circumvent cookie blocking, and the rest is available in better formats. I can't actually think of the last time I needed flash for anything, it's so long ago.
Quote:And if you comes over a web page that have a mobile page, GǪyou click the Gǣgive me full versionGǥ link and bookmark it since pretty much everyone except Apple (and even they in some instances) give you the option to do that. In fact, here too I have to say that it's been so long ago since i came across a mobile site that I can't think of the last time I needed to actually do that. So the effect on your browsing is roughly zero.
Quote:Hmm, to me it seems that you don't see the benefits of having the ability to use extensions. I see the benefits. I just use browser that don't need them (mostlyGǪ I install flash blockers on everything that doesn't have it built in).
Quote:Safari might be good experience for you, but Firefox on Android would make your web experience even better, because you can control the web experience yourself. Witch will make it the best. GǪexcept that it doesn't provide any tangible benefits and is a horrible old mess of a browser that needs to be put to pasture in much the same way as Fx put Netscape out to pasture. Or you can just use Chrome or Opera or anything else that's better. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 00:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:Can you install extensions on Safari? To do what, exactly? Again, I don't need any extensions on my desktop either, and I definitely do not need the catastrophe that is today's Firefox.
Hmm, to me it seems that you don't see the benefits of having the ability to use extensions. I can name 'AdBlock Plus (yes, ads is not just in flash you know)', 'Stylish', 'Phony' and Always Zoom (it's to let you zoom in on pages that don't allow you to zoom on their web pages).
So there is alot of good things with extension support.
Tippia wrote:[quote=NightmareX]So yes, Safari is a good web experience. Granted, Opera is even better for all the usual reasons, but at least we're talking about two modern browsers with those two rather than an obsolete one.
Safari might be good experience for you, but Firefox on Android would make your web experience even better, because you can control the web experience yourself. Witch will make it the best.
Your own choices are always better than others.
EDIT: I see you got all of my questions before i had to edit them. My current EVE videos.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10865
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:11:00 -
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GǪand anyway, my choice of browsers is Opera > Chrome > Safari, and on both iOS and on Android, the funny thing is that it's Chrome that has the most kinds of problems like the OP describes since so many people use the same code base. Exactly why the big G don't like their own code remains to be seen. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:Around 80% of the internet contains with flash materials. So why wouldn't you need that? Because 99% of it is ads and tracking software that uses the Flash cache to circumvent cookie blocking, and the rest is available in better formats. I can't actually think of the last time I needed flash for anything, it's so long ago.
If ads is a problem for you (it's a problem in Safari to, because alot of ads are in pictures and gifs), then you can install AdBlock Pro in Android and you can still surf without the annoying ads. And when it's about the flash contents, then you can simply make Firefox or Dolphin Browser to make you press the flash content you want to see rather than seing it all. Witch makes it a huge advantage over not having the flash ability.
Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:And if you comes over a web page that have a mobile page, GǪyou click the Gǣgive me full versionGǥ link and bookmark it since pretty much everyone except Apple (and even they in some instances) give you the option to do that. In fact, here too I have to say that it's been so long ago since i came across a mobile site that I can't think of the last time I needed to actually do that. So the effect on your browsing is roughly zero.
That doesn't always works i'm afraid. It's more user friendly to just launch the web browser and surf like a Desktop Firefox or any other web browsers right away.
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:Hmm, to me it seems that you don't see the benefits of having the ability to use extensions. I see the benefits. I just use browser that don't need them (mostlyGǪ I install flash blockers on everything that doesn't have it built in).
And by installing flash blockers, you see the benefits of having extensions. Without extensions on iOS, you will always see ads in pictures witch makes the experience not so good. It's better on Android because you can actually remove the ads totally if you want.
Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:Safari might be good experience for you, but Firefox on Android would make your web experience even better, because you can control the web experience yourself. Witch will make it the best. GǪexcept that it doesn't provide any tangible benefits and is a horrible old mess of a browser that needs to be put to pasture in much the same way as Fx put Netscape out to pasture. Or you can just use Chrome or Opera or anything else that's better.
If we are talking Android, then Dolphin Browser -> Firefox -> Opera. If we are talking Windows, Linux or Mac OSX, then Firefox -> Google Chrome -> Opera -> Internet Explorer 10. My current EVE videos.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10865
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:36:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:And by installing flash blockers, you see the benefits of having extensions. No, I just see incomplete browsers, and again, the one I use don't need any extentions.
Quote:If we are talking Android, then Dolphin Browser -> Firefox -> Opera. If we are talking Windows, Linux or Mac OSX, then Firefox -> Google Chrome -> Opera -> Internet Explorer 10. LMAO No. If we're talking anything, then Opera beats them all, simply due to integration and feature set GÇö most of all Firefox which is so antedeluvian at this point that it probably falls behind IE.
Quote:Opera Mini on iOS is not even a fullworty web browser lol. It does everything it needs to do. So sure it is.
Quote:What exactly makes Opera better than Firefox or Chrome on Android / iOS? It exists and it works. But on iOS, I'd say that the relationship is the reverse as long as you don't have to use google's codebase, in which case Chrome loses a lot. Firefox isn't even a contender, nor has it really been on the desktop for many years now. Granted, I haven't looked at it since it (as the only program ever) managed to kernel-panic my media computer two years ago so they might have improved, but short of a NSGåÆFx-style hack-and-slash rewrite, I seriously doubt it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2803
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:55:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Can you use flash on your iOS device?
Can you use Adobe Flash on any mobile device? Adobe canned Flash for mobile because it was never going to work efficiently. You can still build apps using Flash, but then what you get is a "native app" which is basically a Flash runtime with your Flash thingy baked into it.
What does Flash do for you that real web pages don't?
NightmareX wrote:Can you surf on the internet on REAL web pages (not mobile optimized web pages sized for your mobile device)?
I prefer mobile optimized pages, since I don't like waiting five minutes to find out what the train timetable is, having just missed the train I thought I was on time for. If I'm on the platform at the train station with my phone in my hand, all I want to see is the schedule for trains on the line I'm interested in. Why would you want to surf pages designed for 1024px wide screens on a device with a much smaller screen? What's the point?
NightmareX wrote:EDIT: Dolphin Browser for Android is the best browser when it comes to speed and performance. Yes it supports extensions to. But the only reason i'm using Firefox for Android is because i can sync all of my bookmarks on my Desktop Firefox right to my Android Firefox.
I'm quite happy with Mobile Safari: it lets me browse web pages, doesn't support Flash (which means longer battery life, amongst other things), and all my bookmarks are synced between mobile and desktop. One of the features I love the most about Mobile Safari is that if I find an article that I'd like to read on a bigger screen, I can open that article on the desktop or iPad by simply opening the appropriate bookmark in the iCloud list. I don't need extensions, email, twitter, or anything fancy like that: just click the bookmark in Safari and the page opens.
PS: How can Dolphin be the best if it doesn't do what you want? Make up your mind.
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:55:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:And by installing flash blockers, you see the benefits of having extensions. No, I just see incomplete browsers, and again, the one I use don't need any extentions.
So you are saying Opera have an inbuilt Ad / flash blocker?
If not, then you have to use extenstions (or ad-ons) to get rid of those.And thus, you see the benefit of using extensions / ad-ons to get rid of them.
Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:If we are talking Android, then Dolphin Browser -> Firefox -> Opera. If we are talking Windows, Linux or Mac OSX, then Firefox -> Google Chrome -> Opera -> Internet Explorer 10. LMAO No. If we're talking anything, then Opera beats them all, simply due to integration and feature set GÇö most of all Firefox which is so antedeluvian at this point that it probably falls behind IE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BibNjiimZ0
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 01:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:Opera Mini on iOS is not even a fullworty web browser lol. It does everything it needs to do. So sure it is.
Does it blocks ads?
Tippia wrote:NightmareX wrote:What exactly makes Opera better than Firefox or Chrome on Android / iOS? It exists and it works. But on iOS, I'd say that the relationship is the reverse as long as you don't have to use google's codebase, in which case Chrome loses a lot. Firefox isn't even a contender, nor has it really been on the desktop for many years now. Granted, I haven't looked at it since it (as the only program ever) managed to kernel-panic my media computer two years ago so they might have improved, but short of a NSGåÆFx-style hack-and-slash rewrite, I seriously doubt it.
Yeah, Firefox or Dolphin Browser exists to and those works pretty good to on Android. My current EVE videos.
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Dea della Morte
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:01:00 -
[44] - Quote
Galaxy SIII
Problem solved? :P also flash |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2803
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:02:00 -
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Dea della Morte wrote:Galaxy SIII
Problem solved? :P also flash
Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update.
Oh wait.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10866
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:18:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:So you are saying Opera have an inbuilt Ad / flash blocker? Standard Opera AnswerGäó applies: of course. So no, I don't see the benefit of having an incomplete browser.
Quote:Does it blocks ads? Don't remember. I don't see any on the sites I use it for anyway.
Quote:Yeah, Firefox or Dolphin Browser exists to and those works pretty good to on Android. GǪbut not on iOS, and thus not a contender. As for the test you linked, I would very much like to see it re-run with Fx loaded down with all the cruft it needs to have to be a comparable browserGǪ
The thing about Opera is that it was the origin of pretty much everything you see in modern browsers and it still does most of it better than anyone else, right out of the box. The amount of customization I've done to my install, and the amount of customization it natively lets me do to the web means that I see the web exactly the way I want to see it, and the browser doesn't need any additions to make all of that happen, nor does any such alteration change the speed or footprint of the whole thing.
There's a reason why I gave up on Fx: it couldn't keep up with me, and when I tried to coax it, it started killing things around it (not to mention itself). Chrome and Safari are decent bare-bones browsers for when that's needed GÇö Safari obviously integrates well with Apple's stuff in much the same (bad) way IE integrated with MS' in its heyday, and that comes in handy every now and then. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:19:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:NightmareX wrote:Can you use flash on your iOS device? Can you use Adobe Flash on any mobile device? Adobe canned Flash for mobile because it was never going to work efficiently. You can still build apps using Flash, but then what you get is a "native app" which is basically a Flash runtime with your Flash thingy baked into it. What does Flash do for you that real web pages don't?
Like surfing the YouTube web page directly and watch videos right from the web browser. Yes, flash performance on Android is much better than running the HTML5 page of YouTube.
Mara Rinn wrote:NightmareX wrote:Can you surf on the internet on REAL web pages (not mobile optimized web pages sized for your mobile device)? I prefer mobile optimized pages, since I don't like waiting five minutes to find out what the train timetable is, having just missed the train I thought I was on time for. If I'm on the platform at the train station with my phone in my hand, all I want to see is the schedule for trains on the line I'm interested in. Why would you want to surf pages designed for 1024px wide screens on a device with a much smaller screen? What's the point?
If you have to wait 5 mins to load a web page with a browser that supports this 'Desktop Browsing' thingie, then you have done something horribly wrong. Firefox on my Galaxy Note loads as fast as it does on my Windows 8 laptop.
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:19:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:NightmareX wrote:EDIT: Dolphin Browser for Android is the best browser when it comes to speed and performance. Yes it supports extensions to. But the only reason i'm using Firefox for Android is because i can sync all of my bookmarks on my Desktop Firefox right to my Android Firefox. I'm quite happy with Mobile Safari: it lets me browse web pages, doesn't support Flash (which means longer battery life, amongst other things), and all my bookmarks are synced between mobile and desktop. One of the features I love the most about Mobile Safari is that if I find an article that I'd like to read on a bigger screen, I can open that article on the desktop or iPad by simply opening the appropriate bookmark in the iCloud list. I don't need extensions, email, twitter, or anything fancy like that: just click the bookmark in Safari and the page opens.
When i sit on my desktop computer, i won't open the web page on a phone or tablet then. I will then read the web page on my main computer. However. If i'm in a rush, then i have an extension called 'Fox To Phone' to Firefox that will send any links to your Android phone or tablet so you can read it later when you are on the bus / taxi or something like that.
And if i find a web page on my Galaxy Note with Firefox, then i can just save the web page in my bookmarks list and it will appear pretty much instantly in my bookmark list under Mobile Bookmarks in desktop Firefox.
Oh also, you say Flash use battery?
Really?
Didn't you know that Wi-Fi are using more battery than 3G network to?
Maybe you should use 3G network over Wi-Fi then, even when you are at home with your Wi-Fi network?
Mara Rinn wrote:PS: How can Dolphin be the best if it doesn't do what you want? Make up your mind.
Dolphin is the easiest and fastest web browser for Android. Even Dolphin Browser supports AdBlock Plus and it can enable flash on command. My current EVE videos.
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
86
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Posted - 2012.12.27 02:25:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Dea della Morte wrote:Galaxy SIII
Problem solved? :P also flash Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update. Oh wait.
Ok, mister smartypants. Took me 5 seconds to search after 'Adobe Flash Android 4.0' in Google to find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774336
Adobe Flash works really well in Android 4.1.x and 4.2.x. My current EVE videos.
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Mars Theran
Pod Kings
1391
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Posted - 2012.12.27 05:59:00 -
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Works on my iPhone 4. Not that I like reading or posting from it; kind of a pain actually, and mostly because it's terribly slow. I'm not patient with slow. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
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NightmareX
Rebirth. TW0 INCH TERROR
108
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:09:00 -
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Tippia, did you say that the WebKit was bad in Firefox and Dolphin Browser, or the whole WebKit thingie was bad?
Well, i'm happy to announce that Opera will ditch Presto and go over to WebKit them self lol: http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2013/02/13/
So that means Dolphin Browser will be the best one then.
Or, i found another nice web browser to Android that i really like. It's called HoloWeb Internet Browser.
You can download the latest Beta version here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4u8A4_kqBPcekxXcC1IV2xwcms/edit
Yes, Holo Web is more of a copy (thus removed from Play Store) of Tint Browser, but the workflow for HoloWeb is a lot better. My current EVE videos.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2220
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:14:00 -
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Since all the good replies are taken, ll just say lol |
Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
39
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:14:00 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Can't log in nor can I post things on the forums with my smart phone.
I thought they updated the website not too long ago....
The website works with smart phone like eve does with linux and mac, all joking aside the site works for my on android. |
Pewty McPew
Pillage Plunder And Rape Industries
178
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:14:00 -
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There is your problem, you are using an IPhone. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
324
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:51:00 -
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iPhone? Isn't that an Apple product? Wasn't Apple the company that hated Adobe so much, they refused to support Flash on their devices? And wasn't it Steve Jobs who advocated against Flash because its was 'heavy and slow', and wasn't he of the opinion Javascript was better suitable then Adobe's crossbrowser plugin, despite fragmented support for it, despite the existance of benchmarked proof well-coded Flash has way better performance? And isn't it so that thanks to Apple's popularity, most IT projects done nowadays are iPhone / iPad compatible because they use Javascript? You should buy the new iPhone bro! I'm sure that will solve your issue. |
Wodensun
ZeroSec
35
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Posted - 2013.02.13 14:57:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Some websites have the self respect to not lower themselves to be displayed on anything from Apple
Quoted from my Amiga 2600 |
Wodensun
ZeroSec
35
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:00:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Dea della Morte wrote:Galaxy SIII
Problem solved? :P also flash Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update. Oh wait. Why would you want flash anyways its absolute sheit ranks 2 or 3 on the most exploited software 1 being java and 2 being adobe reader.. HTML5 ftw |
NightmareX
Rebirth. TW0 INCH TERROR
108
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:14:00 -
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Wodensun wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Dea della Morte wrote:Galaxy SIII
Problem solved? :P also flash Let me know how good the Flash support is when you get your next OS update. Oh wait. Why would you want flash anyways its absolute sheit ranks 2 or 3 on the most exploited software 1 being java and 2 being adobe reader.. HTML5 ftw
HTML5 is not ftw when it first of all use more power / battery than flash and secondly, it slower than flash when it comes to performance.
Why doesn't anyone of the HTML5 fanboys thinks about that? My current EVE videos.
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
949
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
Is it too late to add that I am posting from my IBM Selectric?
And to ask why this is wasn't in the localizations and work around forums? The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1151
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Posted - 2013.02.13 16:13:00 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Can't log in nor can I post things on the forums with my smart phone.
I thought they updated the website not too long ago....
Get a real smartphone; using that "media consumption device" will rot your brain. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
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