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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
562
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:u are a moron my dear friend. if highsec is so TOO GOOD, why you dont go there? pff. u just dont know what are ya talkin about... Did you miss where we said, in multiple threads, multiple times, that this has already happened for quite a few nullseccers? Many of them maintain highsec alts just so they can make isk or do industry there. Highsec is the way of the future. Surrender to CONCORD or face the consequences. HTFU and go back to highsec. Adapt to highsec. well, I prefer CONCORD overlords to goon overlords. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5668
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:25:00 -
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destiny2 wrote:If their going to nerf anything nerf null get rid of the tech moons, make it so people actually have to work for their isk
How much "work" did hi-sec players put in to get all those invulnerable stations which they can't be locked out of?
You don't get to complain about tech moons in null until stations in hi-sec cost you 20 bill a pop. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1055
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:29:00 -
[63] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:destiny2 wrote:If their going to nerf anything nerf null get rid of the tech moons, make it so people actually have to work for their isk How much "work" did hi-sec players put in to get all those invulnerable stations which they can't be locked out of? You don't get to complain about tech moons in null until stations in hi-sec cost you 20 bill a pop. So does that mean you don't get to complain about your industry till you can't put up outposts and until the old ones are destructible and till you cannot build supers? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2226
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:31:00 -
[64] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:destiny2 wrote:If their going to nerf anything nerf null get rid of the tech moons, make it so people actually have to work for their isk How much "work" did hi-sec players put in to get all those invulnerable stations which they can't be locked out of? You don't get to complain about tech moons in null until stations in hi-sec cost you 20 bill a pop. If only our 20bil a pop stations were totally invulnerable like their free ones which they get multiple of in some systems. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5669
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:37:00 -
[65] - Quote
In fact I bet you have no idea just how high alliance costs in null are, do you? And why should you, when everything is automatically taken care of for you by NPCs. For free.
Go look up how much to costs to install an ihub. And upgrade it. And deploy Cyno jammers and jump bridges. And TCUs. And SBUs. And how much the monthly Sov bills are. And how much a station costs. And how much they cost to upgrade.
You and most hi-seccers seem to think sov null is just Turn up, Plant flag, Collect free Technetium & Anomalies. . You're missing the titanic amount of ISK (amd effort) that's required to gain, control, upgrade and maintain space. And that's not even including what it costs to fight for it. Just to claim it costs many billions per region, and then more billions per month to keep it.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5669
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:37:00 -
[66] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Malcanis wrote:destiny2 wrote:If their going to nerf anything nerf null get rid of the tech moons, make it so people actually have to work for their isk How much "work" did hi-sec players put in to get all those invulnerable stations which they can't be locked out of? You don't get to complain about tech moons in null until stations in hi-sec cost you 20 bill a pop. If only our 20bil a pop stations were totally invulnerable like their free ones which they get multiple of in some systems.
lol typical entitled nullseccer MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
83
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:40:00 -
[67] - Quote
Tbh dont care how much they buff 0.0 have no intention of returning and becoming a sheep/lemming or a number in a blob
no need to nurf hisec its the main hub of eve
not everyone has the time to comit to a corp are theyer subscription fee any difrent to anyone elses?
eve is game we pay for so do what you want when you want anyone who wants you to be difrent can go f**k themselfs tbh my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
562
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:43:00 -
[68] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Malcanis wrote:destiny2 wrote:If their going to nerf anything nerf null get rid of the tech moons, make it so people actually have to work for their isk How much "work" did hi-sec players put in to get all those invulnerable stations which they can't be locked out of? You don't get to complain about tech moons in null until stations in hi-sec cost you 20 bill a pop. If only our 20bil a pop stations were totally invulnerable like their free ones which they get multiple of in some systems. lol typical entitled nullseccer well, let's get honest here: everybody's a typical self-entitled whatever-fancies-you [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Glathull
Suicidal Panda Tears of Love and Death
15
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:46:00 -
[69] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:In fact I bet you have no idea just how high alliance costs in null are, do you? And why should you, when everything is automatically taken care of for you by NPCs. For free.
Go look up how much to costs to install an ihub. And upgrade it. And deploy Cyno jammers and jump bridges. And TCUs. And SBUs. And how much the monthly Sov bills are. And how much a station costs. And how much they cost to upgrade.
You and most hi-seccers seem to think sov null is just Turn up, Plant flag, Collect free Technetium & Anomalies. . You're missing the titanic amount of ISK (amd effort) that's required to gain, control, upgrade and maintain space. And that's not even including what it costs to fight for it. Just to claim it costs many billions per region, and then more billions per month to keep it.
Your point seems to be that turning null-sec into high-sec is very expensive and potentially time consuming. And ultimately a failure. And that bothers you. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5669
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:53:00 -
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Glathull wrote:Malcanis wrote:In fact I bet you have no idea just how high alliance costs in null are, do you? And why should you, when everything is automatically taken care of for you by NPCs. For free.
Go look up how much to costs to install an ihub. And upgrade it. And deploy Cyno jammers and jump bridges. And TCUs. And SBUs. And how much the monthly Sov bills are. And how much a station costs. And how much they cost to upgrade.
You and most hi-seccers seem to think sov null is just Turn up, Plant flag, Collect free Technetium & Anomalies. . You're missing the titanic amount of ISK (amd effort) that's required to gain, control, upgrade and maintain space. And that's not even including what it costs to fight for it. Just to claim it costs many billions per region, and then more billions per month to keep it.
Your point seems to be that turning null-sec into high-sec is very expensive and potentially time consuming. And ultimately a failure. And that bothers you.
What the hell does that even mean "turning it into hi-sec". Do you mean the ability to, you know, do stuff ? Oh well lawks-a-lawdy lookit dem uppity nullers trying to pretend deys proper decent folk, fo shame, fo shame.
Because to the best of my knowledge, there's no upgrade that adds CONCORD, there's no upgrade that adds Crimewatch, there's no upgrade that adds sec hit, there's no upgrade that adds gate guns, there's no upgrade that adds agents, there's no upgrade that adds skillbooks, and worst of all there's no upgrade that adds the ability to use knowledge and logic in posts made by people who know nothing about nullsec and yet seem to think that they're qualified to make comments on it without appearing very ignorant indeed. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
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Lexmana
739
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
Glathull wrote:Malcanis wrote:In fact I bet you have no idea just how high alliance costs in null are, do you? And why should you, when everything is automatically taken care of for you by NPCs. For free.
Go look up how much to costs to install an ihub. And upgrade it. And deploy Cyno jammers and jump bridges. And TCUs. And SBUs. And how much the monthly Sov bills are. And how much a station costs. And how much they cost to upgrade.
You and most hi-seccers seem to think sov null is just Turn up, Plant flag, Collect free Technetium & Anomalies. . You're missing the titanic amount of ISK (amd effort) that's required to gain, control, upgrade and maintain space. And that's not even including what it costs to fight for it. Just to claim it costs many billions per region, and then more billions per month to keep it.
Your point seems to be that turning null-sec into high-sec is very expensive and potentially time consuming. And ultimately a failure. And that bothers you. I don't think you got it right. But whats your point? |
Luanda Heartbreaker
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
15
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:01:00 -
[72] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:u are a moron my dear friend. if highsec is so TOO GOOD, why you dont go there? pff. u just dont know what are ya talkin about... Did you miss where we said, in multiple threads, multiple times, that this has already happened for quite a few nullseccers? Many of them maintain highsec alts just so they can make isk or do industry there.
then u do something very wrong. most of us move to nullsec cos there it is easier to print isk even solo... thats the only reason to leave the safe empire
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Glathull
Suicidal Panda Tears of Love and Death
15
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:07:00 -
[73] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Glathull wrote:Malcanis wrote:In fact I bet you have no idea just how high alliance costs in null are, do you? And why should you, when everything is automatically taken care of for you by NPCs. For free.
Go look up how much to costs to install an ihub. And upgrade it. And deploy Cyno jammers and jump bridges. And TCUs. And SBUs. And how much the monthly Sov bills are. And how much a station costs. And how much they cost to upgrade.
You and most hi-seccers seem to think sov null is just Turn up, Plant flag, Collect free Technetium & Anomalies. . You're missing the titanic amount of ISK (amd effort) that's required to gain, control, upgrade and maintain space. And that's not even including what it costs to fight for it. Just to claim it costs many billions per region, and then more billions per month to keep it.
Your point seems to be that turning null-sec into high-sec is very expensive and potentially time consuming. And ultimately a failure. And that bothers you. I don't think you got it right. But whats your point?
My point is pretty simple: Malcanis is talking about how expensive it is to do "things" in null sec. Things that are pretty easy to do in high sec.
In other words, he(?) is saying that setting up the infrastructure that you need in null sec to do the same kinds of things you can do in high sec for free is a frustration for him(her). And when all of that is done, and all that ISK is spent, it's still not really the same as high sec.
Am I misreading that?
edited to add that my gender questions aren't a challenge to Malcanis. Just respecting the fact that I have no idea. |
Lexmana
739
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:14:00 -
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Glathull wrote:Lexmana wrote:Glathull wrote:Malcanis wrote:In fact I bet you have no idea just how high alliance costs in null are, do you? And why should you, when everything is automatically taken care of for you by NPCs. For free.
Go look up how much to costs to install an ihub. And upgrade it. And deploy Cyno jammers and jump bridges. And TCUs. And SBUs. And how much the monthly Sov bills are. And how much a station costs. And how much they cost to upgrade.
You and most hi-seccers seem to think sov null is just Turn up, Plant flag, Collect free Technetium & Anomalies. . You're missing the titanic amount of ISK (amd effort) that's required to gain, control, upgrade and maintain space. And that's not even including what it costs to fight for it. Just to claim it costs many billions per region, and then more billions per month to keep it.
Your point seems to be that turning null-sec into high-sec is very expensive and potentially time consuming. And ultimately a failure. And that bothers you. I don't think you got it right. But whats your point? My point is pretty simple: Malcanis is talking about how expensive it is to do "things" in null sec. Things that are pretty easy to do in high sec. In other words, he(?) is saying that setting up the infrastructure that you need in null sec to do the same kinds of things you can do in high sec for free is a frustration for him(her). And when all of that is done, and all that ISK is spent, it's still not really the same as high sec. Am I misreading that? edited to add that my gender questions aren't a challenge to Malcanis. Just respecting the fact that I have no idea.
Malcanis speaks very well for himself. But I think you are missing the point. There is nothing wrong with conquering, organising, funding, building, maintaining and defending empires and infrastructures. What is wrong is getting all that for free and still complain asking for more ISK and less effort.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5675
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:20:00 -
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You are not only misreading it, you're employing an obvious fallacy.
"People build stuff in hi-sec, therefore trying to make it viable to build stuff in nullsec as well is the same as trying to turn it into hi-sec".
"****** had a moustache and you're growing a moustache, therefore you're trying to declare war on Poland and conquer eastern Europe."
Imagine that all Amarr ships had a 50% hit point penalty in 0.0; correcting this wouldn't be "turning 0.0 into hi-sec", it would just be correcting an obvious and egregious imbalance, because there's nothing inherent to the concept of hi-sec that mandates Amarr ships only being worthwhile in empire and not in null.
SO: No, building stuff isn't the defining characteristic of hi-sec. What makes hi-sec hi-sec are the characteristics that are unique to it, like CONCORD.
The ability to build stuff is explicitly enabled in all areas, even W-space; but they're not properly balanced. Hi-sec has all of the advantages and none of the disadvantages, which is obviously imbalanced. You don't get to have the best stations AND multiple stations AND the stations are free AND you can't be locked out of them AND you can't lose them AND you get free NPC protection AND you can run missions from them... something has to give here.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
2452
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Do you mean the ability to, you know, do stuff ? Oh well lawks-a-lawdy lookit dem uppity nullers trying to pretend deys proper decent folk, fo shame, fo shame. I've read through all posts, actually interested. Then i saw this and went ...
... WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN ?
Could you translate, please? Just so i can keep context ... thanks. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1055
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:26:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:You are not only misreading it, you're employing an obvious fallacy.
"People build stuff in hi-sec, therefore trying to make it viable to build stuff in nullsec as well is the same as trying to turn it into hi-sec".
"****** had a moustache and you're growing a moustache, therefore you're trying to declare war on Poland and conquer eastern Europe."
Imagine that all Amarr ships had a 50% hit point penalty in 0.0; correcting this wouldn't be "turning 0.0 into hi-sec", it would just be correcting an obvious and egregious imbalance, because there's nothing inherent to the concept of hi-sec that mandates Amarr ships only being worthwhile in empire and not in null.
SO: No, building stuff isn't the defining characteristic of hi-sec. What makes hi-sec hi-sec are the characteristics that are unique to it, like CONCORD.
The ability to build stuff is explicitly enabled in all areas, even W-space; but they're not properly balanced. Hi-sec has all of the advantages and none of the disadvantages, which is obviously imbalanced. You don't get to have the best stations AND multiple stations AND the stations are free AND you can't be locked out of them AND you can't lose them AND you get free NPC protection AND you can run missions from them... something has to give here.
You try to build large quanities of anything in Wormhole space and see the fact that the costs soon out weight the rewards. Yes we can build some things in Wormholes but no way near the amounts that can be built in Null And to top it all off Null has access to ice to power those POSs and Moon Goo to help fund those POSs. That is even before we get to the fact that in null you are no more than a few minutes from the nearest Hi-Sec market via cyno.
So NO null has not gotten the bad end of the manufacturing stick by a long run.
As I have said Player owned should be better than NPC but I think giving null huge quantities of Hi-sec minerals would just make super caps owned by every person and their dog as well as completely destroying the hi-sec markets. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
173
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:26:00 -
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the game and its features is working as intended
because it it wasnt the devs would have fixed it
the pure fact that something exists is a proof that it was intended this way - like smallpox or stephen hawking which only goes to show that The Developer can be a huge 8=============D sometimes
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5675
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:29:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Malcanis wrote:Do you mean the ability to, you know, do stuff ? Oh well lawks-a-lawdy lookit dem uppity nullers trying to pretend deys proper decent folk, fo shame, fo shame. I've read through all posts, actually interested. Then i saw this and went ... ... WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN ? Could you translate, please? Just so i can keep context ... thanks.
I am satirically drawing a comparison between the person I was replying to and the kind of person who thinks that they're not racist, but...
There's a mindset that confuses what is with what should be. That because 0.0 sucks for activities that aren't waiting on a titan or smooshing red pluses, it's supposed to be that way. Or that it's that way because the people in 0.0 are somehow less deserving or intelligent or hardworking. Sociologists call this mindset "privilege" (As in "male privilege" or "inherited wealth privilege" - the viewpoint of someone who sees the world through the lens of their advantages without realising or admitting that they are advantaged - so they think that poor people are all poor or that women get piad less for the same work or that blacks receive harsher sentences for equivalent crimes or that 0.0ers can't even build enough ammo for themselves in their own space, let alone ships and modules because they're lazy or stupid or less deserving in the eyes of God or whatever bullshit they claim in order to deny that rebalancing is required). MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Glathull
Suicidal Panda Tears of Love and Death
15
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:30:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:You are not only misreading it, you're employing an obvious fallacy.
"People build stuff in hi-sec, therefore trying to make it viable to build stuff in nullsec as well is the same as trying to turn it into hi-sec".
"****** had a moustache and you're growing a moustache, therefore you're trying to declare war on Poland and conquer eastern Europe."
Imagine that all Amarr ships had a 50% hit point penalty in 0.0; correcting this wouldn't be "turning 0.0 into hi-sec", it would just be correcting an obvious and egregious imbalance, because there's nothing inherent to the concept of hi-sec that mandates Amarr ships only being worthwhile in empire and not in null.
SO: No, building stuff isn't the defining characteristic of hi-sec. What makes hi-sec hi-sec are the characteristics that are unique to it, like CONCORD.
The ability to build stuff is explicitly enabled in all areas, even W-space; but they're not properly balanced. Hi-sec has all of the advantages and none of the disadvantages, which is obviously imbalanced. You don't get to have the best stations AND multiple stations AND the stations are free AND you can't be locked out of them AND you can't lose them AND you get free NPC protection AND you can run missions from them... something has to give here.
There's a lot of incoherent stuff here.
I'm pretty careful about fallacies, and I haven't employed any here.
According to you:
Building things is okay.
So long as . . . it's not more efficient to build things in high sec.
What you want is a null sec that has stations at least as good as high sec for, well, everything.
That's what it sounds like.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1685
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:37:00 -
[81] - Quote
Randolph Rothstein wrote:the game and its features is working as intended
because it it wasnt the devs would have fixed it
the pure fact that something exists is a proof that it was intended this way - like smallpox or stephen hawking which only goes to show that The Developer can be a huge 8=============D sometimes
That's just about the stupidest **** I've read today. Never post again. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
173
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:46:00 -
[82] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Randolph Rothstein wrote:the game and its features is working as intended
because it it wasnt the devs would have fixed it
the pure fact that something exists is a proof that it was intended this way - like smallpox or stephen hawking which only goes to show that The Developer can be a huge 8=============D sometimes
That's just about the stupidest **** I've read today. Never post again.
Phrases like "Never post again" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1685
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:48:00 -
[83] - Quote
Randolph Rothstein wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Randolph Rothstein wrote:the game and its features is working as intended
because it it wasnt the devs would have fixed it
the pure fact that something exists is a proof that it was intended this way - like smallpox or stephen hawking which only goes to show that The Developer can be a huge 8=============D sometimes
That's just about the stupidest **** I've read today. Never post again. Phrases like "Never post again" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm Yes, keep trying to outdo yourself. This is entertaining. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Alara IonStorm
3961
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:51:00 -
[84] - Quote
Randolph Rothstein wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Randolph Rothstein wrote:the game and its features is working as intended
because it it wasnt the devs would have fixed it
the pure fact that something exists is a proof that it was intended this way - like smallpox or stephen hawking which only goes to show that The Developer can be a huge 8=============D sometimes
That's just about the stupidest **** I've read today. Never post again. Phrases like "Never post again" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm Actually it means to convey his wish that you no longer post on the forums, that much is obvious.
As for your initial post Dev's take time to fix things and Dev's make mistakes in implementation all the time.
Working as Intended because it exists is not an arguments, you actually have to explain why it is better.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5676
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:51:00 -
[85] - Quote
Glathull wrote:Malcanis wrote:You are not only misreading it, you're employing an obvious fallacy.
"People build stuff in hi-sec, therefore trying to make it viable to build stuff in nullsec as well is the same as trying to turn it into hi-sec".
"****** had a moustache and you're growing a moustache, therefore you're trying to declare war on Poland and conquer eastern Europe."
Imagine that all Amarr ships had a 50% hit point penalty in 0.0; correcting this wouldn't be "turning 0.0 into hi-sec", it would just be correcting an obvious and egregious imbalance, because there's nothing inherent to the concept of hi-sec that mandates Amarr ships only being worthwhile in empire and not in null.
SO: No, building stuff isn't the defining characteristic of hi-sec. What makes hi-sec hi-sec are the characteristics that are unique to it, like CONCORD.
The ability to build stuff is explicitly enabled in all areas, even W-space; but they're not properly balanced. Hi-sec has all of the advantages and none of the disadvantages, which is obviously imbalanced. You don't get to have the best stations AND multiple stations AND the stations are free AND you can't be locked out of them AND you can't lose them AND you get free NPC protection AND you can run missions from them... something has to give here.
There's a lot of incoherent stuff here. I'm pretty careful about fallacies, and I haven't employed any here.
You employed the exact fallacy that I demonstrated: asserting that two things with a single similar characteristic are therefore similar in all characteristics.
Glathull wrote: According to you:
Building things is okay.
So long as . . . it's not more efficient to build things in high sec.
What you want is a null sec that has stations at least as good as high sec for, well, everything.
That's what it sounds like.
And yes, pretty much that's what it sounds like because that's what it is. That's what I'm arguing.
Hi-sec is both more efficient AND free AND safer. That's as unbalanced as a ship that's faster AND has more EHP AND has better DPS than others in its class. Why should hi-sec be the best in every respect? Why isn't there a trade-off for that CONCORD-provided safety? Shouldn't that be balanced against lower efficiency? Shouldn't a station that cost players tens of billions of ISK and which is vulnerable to being taken away from them provide some compelling efficiency advantage over one that's just put there for free and which they can't ever be locked out of and which doesn't require continuous spending on sov bills?
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
337
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:55:00 -
[86] - Quote
The fact is many hisec players will still venture into losec / WHs to do good PI there, just because they prefer hisec, doesn't mean theyll Never leave it, and so the pirates will continue to have targets, overnerf hisec, and you get fewer players in the game, and fewer targets for null/losec. Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1686
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:58:00 -
[87] - Quote
Peter Raptor wrote:The fact is many hisec players will still venture into losec / WHs to do good PI etc there, just because they prefer hisec, doesn't mean theyll Never leave it, and so the pirates will continue to have targets, overnerf hisec, and you get fewer players in the game, and fewer targets for null/losec. I guess it's a good thing then that nobody's suggesting an overnerf. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5676
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:59:00 -
[88] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Randolph Rothstein wrote:the game and its features is working as intended
because it it wasnt the devs would have fixed it
the pure fact that something exists is a proof that it was intended this way - like smallpox or stephen hawking which only goes to show that The Developer can be a huge 8=============D sometimes
That's just about the stupidest **** I've read today. Never post again.
You might want to adjust the gain on your sarcasm detector a smidge there, mate MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.27 12:00:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:The fact is many hisec players will still venture into losec / WHs to do good PI etc there, just because they prefer hisec, doesn't mean theyll Never leave it, and so the pirates will continue to have targets, overnerf hisec, and you get fewer players in the game, and fewer targets for null/losec.
What would be an "overnerf"? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2012.12.27 12:03:00 -
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Most ppl know what they are doing going to null and if they dont they should
pointless crying to nurf another area just becouse your area sucks
0.0 does need a buff tbh make all 0.0 npc space problem solved add another 10 regions also make eve big again
nurfing one area to boost another wont work youll just pissoff that area population and will result in unsubing and more whineing on forums my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |
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