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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
304
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Posted - 2012.12.28 04:55:00 -
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Zaknussem wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:the other problem you ahve is the players, if ccp focus on industry they complain about the lack of 'pew attention' if ccp focus on 'the pew' they complain about broken industry So true. CCP ignored the playerbase (at least) once and gave us Incarna. Players raged. CCP listened to the playerbase (at least) once and gave us Crucible. Players raged (once the high wore off). It's a lose-lose situation. Even Aesop wrote a fable about this: You can't ever please everyone.
NERF THE PLAYERS wumbo |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
471
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:06:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Acac Sunflyier wrote:masternerdguy wrote:
- I Am Special - Nobody is special. Everyone is a worthless until proven otherwise. Your value is solely what you bring to the community.
Same goes for goonswarm, test alliance, -a-, pl, suddenly spaceships, etc. Null sec blob fests are boring. Station grinding is boring. Moon reactions are boring. One thing that is often overlooked when flying with large coalitions/alliances is that you can often find a subgroup within the alliance that does just about anything, and unlike small corps that do these things I have a vast and easy talent pool for recruiting whenever numbers start to dwindle. For instance I recently helped revitalize our baby blops wing and I'm rarely found in a fleet that numbers over 20 people. We usually live deep in someone else's territory, and the only thing we have to do with pos's is on occasion we steal one that someone is unanchoring. I won't say I've never been a member of the blob, I have, but I don't enjoy it as much as what I do now, and my recent killboard activity kind of reflects that renewed interest.
Yeah but the thing is some people are deaf and cannot speak in comms, which is often a must in null blocks. Some people only want to spend an hour a weekend doing some very casual activities.
Fact is I think high sec is fine the way it is. Keeps prices low, has a viable market. and introduced people to the game. Highsec has become a breadbasket that everybody can take from. Nerfing highsec would have too vast a repercussion on too many areas of space. It'd be very likely eve couldd enter another economic depression; the very least a recession. This is the worst possible thing that could happen in Eve. Nobody would buy anything cause your isk would be worth more and more the longer because the value of one isk would buy more and more. It would very easily turn into a tailspin.
I get that people are bored in null a lot of the time waiting for the cta. But I don't think nerfing highsec will get more targets in null. It'd probably cause many people to leave (The opposite of what we want to happen.)
There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |
Wo nko
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:14:00 -
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goon thread... stop posting kthx |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2067
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:15:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:These threads are getting really old. I don't care about highsec, and I dont care about nullsec and I certainly don't care what high seccers think of null seccers and vice versa. Get over yourselves.
Here's something we haven't all tried yet.
It's called "minding our own business".
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Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2012.12.28 05:28:00 -
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OP can you please keep dumb-posting and get banned again? The forums were so much nicer with you gone. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1191
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:12:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:In many of the defensive cries from hi seccers attempting to justify that hi sec is balanced I've been seeing a recurring theme: "I won't go to nullsec because I don't want to help build your empire. I want to build one with my RL friends." "I won't go to nullsec because I don't want to help build your empire. I want to build one with my RL friends." This is the epitome of the fundamental misunderstanding hi seccers have about the nature of this game. It is based on 3 incorrect assumptions.
- I Am Special - Nobody is special. Everyone is a worthless until proven otherwise. Your value is solely what you bring to the community.
- EVE is Relaxing - EVE has never been relaxing. It has been about hard work and commitment. You might have fun, but it will take a lot of work to get there.
- EVE is About Small Gang / Solo - EVE has never been balanced around small gang or solo, and this has never been pushed by any of the advertising. In fact the opposite is pushed.
So what do you resort to? You resort to blaming the evil nullseccers for all your problems and talking about how unfair it is that you might lose, or that setting up your 5 man alliance in the middle of Deklein won't work, or that you got blobbed. Then when that doesn't work you cry about how important it is to be a "casual gamer". The definition of casual gamer seems to be pretty flexible these days. I didn't know grinding missions or ice mining for 14 hours a day was casual. Anyway, the nerf will happen. Summer is coming. I bring your attention to point 1
And ask why you bother to waste peoples time with a thread like this?
Actually never mind you may refer your self to point 1. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1899
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:29:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Arduemont wrote:These threads are getting really old. I don't care about highsec, and I dont care about nullsec and I certainly don't care what high seccers think of null seccers and vice versa. Get over yourselves. Here's something we haven't all tried yet. It's called "minding our own business". Oh, here I was thinking we were playing the same game on the same shard. I'm just going to go back to my nullsec server now where nothing you do has any effect on my game and nothing I do has any effect on yours. Oh wait... Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2069
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Arduemont wrote:These threads are getting really old. I don't care about highsec, and I dont care about nullsec and I certainly don't care what high seccers think of null seccers and vice versa. Get over yourselves. Here's something we haven't all tried yet. It's called "minding our own business". Oh, here I was thinking we were playing the same game on the same shard. I'm just going to go back to my nullsec server now where nothing you do has any effect on my game and nothing I do has any effect on yours. Oh wait...
Are you OK? You seem kind of angry.
If you want others to mind your business, or you want them to let you mind theirs, you have to offer something for that time. It's an economical measure. Most people actually mind their own business, even in the largest shard we know of, known as the real world to some to dare to venture out of the basement.
I would say you should mind your own business because it makes sense. What could you have done to change things, other than a forum post?
Quite often in threads like this, there is much energy going into what people aught to do, while not really doing anything to change that.
If you want people to be involved in your game the way you see it, you have to come up with a way to let them be involved, either voluntarily or involuntarily, and in some manner that they benefit from it pertaining to their goals.
If you want everybody doing things that has some effect on each other, then you must really understand the scope of the activities. Recently I equipped a battleship with mods I never used before, and am running tests on it. This has nothing to do with anybody else, for now, but I suspect that somebody built that hull, and made those T2 modules. My present goals do not involve interaction with anybody else at this time.
But to understand the effect of things regarding interaction, and the scope of the activities, would be to try to find the crossroads where the map is too large. It's beyond my understanding. I don't know what I can do for you that can change anything for you at this time, and could not think of anything you can do for me.
Good luck trying though. I think that nothing is going to change until there are enough people ready to work on some very out of the box ways to mix things up a bit.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
937
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Posted - 2012.12.28 09:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Karrl Tian wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Can't wait for the highsec rebalance expansion. Yeah the last two were great. Next, more EHP for freighters. After this expansion they dont need it no more XD |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
2456
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:55:00 -
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I want a special overview icon for casual gamers, so i can concentrate all my guns on them.
Edit: In fact, we should create a group that specifically targets these so called "casual gamers". Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Dave stark
1148
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Posted - 2012.12.28 10:57:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I want a special overview icon for casual gamers, so i can concentrate all my guns on them.
Edit: In fact, we should create a group that specifically targets these so called "casual gamers".
you've been doing a good job of that without the extra feature judging by how many bounty notifications i get from you. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6545
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:00:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Anyway, the nerf will happen. Summer is coming. So exactly what is this nerf going to be?
/c
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TharOkha
0asis Group
300
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:04:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:"we are the borg. Resistance is futile"
Yes, this is exactly what your post is about. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Rhaetic
Black Ice Consortium
56
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:07:00 -
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In this thread:
Yet another know-nothing telling people what EVE is, as if they hold the magic key to a sandbox game. |
Gabriel Santagalos
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:24:00 -
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I like the part about you "MIGHT" have fun someday, if you work your ass off, the best. I am obviously doing it wrong, having fun without sweating and working like a madman. I thought this was a videogame, ultimately played for fun, boy was i wrong!
Thanks for showing me the error of my ways, i shall go repent and flog myself until i am biomassed or something. |
Jenavee De'amore
Perkone Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:42:00 -
[106] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:In many of the defensive cries from hi seccers attempting to justify that hi sec is balanced I've been seeing a recurring theme: "I won't go to nullsec because I don't want to help build your empire. I want to build one with my RL friends." "I won't go to nullsec because I don't want to help build your empire. I want to build one with my RL friends." This is the epitome of the fundamental misunderstanding hi seccers have about the nature of this game. It is based on 3 incorrect assumptions.
- I Am Special - Nobody is special. Everyone is a worthless until proven otherwise. Your value is solely what you bring to the community.
- EVE is Relaxing - EVE has never been relaxing. It has been about hard work and commitment. You might have fun, but it will take a lot of work to get there.
- EVE is About Small Gang / Solo - EVE has never been balanced around small gang or solo, and this has never been pushed by any of the advertising. In fact the opposite is pushed.
So what do you resort to? You resort to blaming the evil nullseccers for all your problems and talking about how unfair it is that you might lose, or that setting up your 5 man alliance in the middle of Deklein won't work, or that you got blobbed. Then when that doesn't work you cry about how important it is to be a "casual gamer". The definition of casual gamer seems to be pretty flexible these days. I didn't know grinding missions or ice mining for 14 hours a day was casual. Anyway, the nerf will happen. Summer is coming.
I am special!! Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.... |
killorbekilled TBE
Initiated
169
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:14:00 -
[107] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:In many of the defensive cries from hi seccers attempting to justify that hi sec is balanced I've been seeing a recurring theme: "I won't go to nullsec because I don't want to help build your empire. I want to build one with my RL friends." "I won't go to nullsec because I don't want to help build your empire. I want to build one with my RL friends." This is the epitome of the fundamental misunderstanding hi seccers have about the nature of this game. It is based on 3 incorrect assumptions.
- I Am Special - Nobody is special. Everyone is a worthless until proven otherwise. Your value is solely what you bring to the community.
- EVE is Relaxing - EVE has never been relaxing. It has been about hard work and commitment. You might have fun, but it will take a lot of work to get there.
- EVE is About Small Gang / Solo - EVE has never been balanced around small gang or solo, and this has never been pushed by any of the advertising. In fact the opposite is pushed.
So what do you resort to? You resort to blaming the evil nullseccers for all your problems and talking about how unfair it is that you might lose, or that setting up your 5 man alliance in the middle of Deklein won't work, or that you got blobbed. Then when that doesn't work you cry about how important it is to be a "casual gamer". The definition of casual gamer seems to be pretty flexible these days. I didn't know grinding missions or ice mining for 14 hours a day was casual. Anyway, the nerf will happen. Summer is coming.
Thanks for sharing now go back to your seat
:) |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
689
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:17:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:
I Am Special - Nobody is special.
I'd like to meet this character called 'nobody' he sounds special .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
689
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:19:00 -
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Rhaetic wrote:In this thread:
Yet another know-nothing telling people what EVE is, as if they hold the magic key to a sandbox game.
Posting garbage is his contribution to the community as such in his own words/mind he IS special.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Nessa Aldeen
The Sword and The Shield
2
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:33:00 -
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This guy from he was a nub until now still continue to post absolute drivel. Go learn Eve please, seriously. |
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
399
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:39:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Anyway, the nerf will happen. Summer is coming. nerf will happen. or it won't. without your help. without you trying to opposite it. you (and your opinion) just don't matter to fact if nerf will come or not.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
399
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Posted - 2012.12.28 12:44:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
get a life freak
What an intelligent and fascinating retort. well.you deserved it. don't cry now. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
399
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:00:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Except a drake blob has usually 250+ players. And when there's multiple blobs, it's much larger. If only things were easier the smaller the group you're in, instead of the opposite being true. I can say ironically that the smaller a gang is the easier it is to manage/trust everyone is doing the right thing. Coordinating multiple blobs is so easy, a moron could do it. In other words, highsec should be able to beat us up easily since they clearly outnumber us. question is: do you worth attention of high-seccers? i think you don't |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1001
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Posted - 2012.12.28 13:27:00 -
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The troll got his 6 pages, guys. Let's let him fade back into obscurity again. Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
134
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:47:00 -
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op u missed the ppl like me and there are alot them
ppl who lived years in 0.0 and got bord ppl who just dont care about building empires ppl who dont care about other players ppl who like to do what they want and when they want
in genrial ppl like me ppl who dont give a sh*t about you or anyone els my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |
Sentamon
509
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Posted - 2012.12.28 17:52:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote: Anyway, the nerf will happen. Summer is coming.
... and another self deluded individual that thinks people will join nullsec alliances if highsec is ruined.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2130
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Posted - 2012.12.28 18:55:00 -
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Meh... you can have fun in an alliance. It just depends on the alliance. Right now the game is geared in such a way that not enough people care about alliance warfare. I think that will change in the next year or two. I actually had a lot of fun when I was in the snigg noob-training corp. I've been in other corps that had wildly different styles of play and objectives, and each was fun in their own right. It's not 'work' when you are on a team and everyone is working toward some goal or just having fun. You just have to shop around for a group that is doing what you want to do... and that isn't easy since there are so many different groups out there.
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Captain Death1
war dumping alt holdings
20
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:56:00 -
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Reset game back to 0 sp o isk that will fix high and null sec that way all players are on even footing under any new nerf that might come
i like nerfs myself i enjoy the e-mails you get saying please come back and sub when games subs get low
yawn easy to blow a games subs out the window with bad idea after bad idea this is why you all play game and don't write the software -F for knowing anything about business |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
382
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:09:00 -
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Sturgeon's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_Law ) applies to player generated content as much as anything else. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |
Doc Severiide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:11:00 -
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There is always some useless loser coming up with multiple idiotic threads ad naseum. james315 and this guy are at the top of the heap right now... |
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