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Dea della Morte
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:46:00 -
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So first there was EvE, then was Cap ship nerfs, then Apocrypha, then the rest of eve.
For those of you that don't know:
Apocrypha was the EvE Online Expansion that added Tech 3 Ships, The SkillQueue, and W-Space. Hands down the largest content addition to the Eve universe, Adding 2,500 W-Space systems to the list of the already impressive .. well.. system list.
So what else is there to add? Eve needs a large content addition. Jove is always an option, but perhaps we aren't ready for the Jove yet. The rest of ship rebalancing is still coming along great, but that should kinda happen weather or not we get a large content addition.
So here, we will discuss what large content addition eve can use, and needs. (Although CCP probably already has a decent idea of what it will be, We all hope).
My rendition:
EvE Online -Insert Name Here-
New POS System More Interactive Outpost System( More outposts, that actually mean something ) New Resource to be gathered( Pref in Null sec (Risk)) Give Low-Sec something to be proud of, Maybe a new resource for them too? (After they rebalance capitals) T2 Capitals? maybe? that are made with the new resources that can be gathered, and assembled at the new POS, that can provide specified bonuses and fill Niches. (If t2 capitals are too much, then give us More T2 BC/BS Options. SuperHeavyAss Assult Battleships
By new POS system, i mean having a player owned station, smaller than an outpost, Larger than the current POS, that can have a docking bay if the POS owners seem fit, And defenses, similar to the current pos. While keeping the Old pos system for a cheaper alternative to the new one. I hope that made sense :D
Post constructively, Fly safe |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
353
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Posted - 2012.12.30 21:57:00 -
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You need more than new ships and new resources to qualify as new Apocrypha. T3s weren't just new cruisers, they brough completely new thing (subs). Not just there were new resources, but there was new kind of space with new rules and mech to contain them. And that skill queue change was something I couldn't imagine that it didn't exist in the past when I joined.
I don't know what will be in the new Apocrypha. Though I keep hearing that CCP said that they aren't going to create new expansions similar to that one. Can someone provide some links? Would be nice to know where this stuff comes from, what amounts to "expansion like Apocrypha" and what was the reasoning given? |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
781
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:02:00 -
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2013 will bring us dust, pretty big thing if you ask me ;)
the possibilities of combined eve and dust are virtually endless We are recruiting german-speaking PVP players, contact me :)
(BANNER WAS USED FOR THIS POST) |
ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
42
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:04:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:2013 will bring us dust, pretty big thing if you ask me ;)
the possibilities of combined eve and dust are virtually endless
Yeah, having dust bunnies shitting up local in l33t speak alongside the usual sperging will be super awesome. |
ArmyOfMe
Boris Johnson's Love Children The Mandalorians
132
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:05:00 -
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Gilbaron wrote:2013 will bring us dust, pretty big thing if you ask me ;) Yeah, i care so much about dust that i gave away my ps3 Suleiman Shouaa> And you still think you're taking risks? NightmareX> I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.
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Mildew Wolf
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:16:00 -
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What I recall at the time of apocrypha these forums were mostly full of people whining about stupid stuff and saying eve is dying |
FoxBird Freir
Raven's Flight Nulli Legio
25
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:18:00 -
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wow, that sex-change didn't go so well mildew x) |
AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
117
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:21:00 -
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ConranAntoni wrote:Gilbaron wrote:2013 will bring us dust, pretty big thing if you ask me ;)
the possibilities of combined eve and dust are virtually endless Yeah, having dust bunnies shitting up local in l33t speak alongside the usual sperging will be super awesome.
Oh gosh...Jita...*facepalm* Every time I post is Pardy time! :3 |
Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
253
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:37:00 -
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For those with simple minds
CCP is secretly developing something big. It is DUST 514, WIS and other stuff in Research and Development.
CCP is in the design phase... All good companies are secretive about the design phase. It keeps them in control of the situation.
Bad companies overhype, die in rumors, release vapor-ware and leak content prematurely, which leads to speculation and slow sales. |
Bohoba
Blue Ice Melts
28
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:43:00 -
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FoxBird Freir wrote:wow, that sex-change didn't go so well mildew x)
dam wipeing up my screen just spit coffee all over it thanks I needed a good laugh today
I Love the smell of goons podpie in the morning topped with a tear |
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Wacktopia
Noir. Black Legion.
361
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:46:00 -
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Apocrypha was an insane expansion. It was just so on-the-money. I actually think all the new planets and PI stuff bought something new and interesting to the game, despite it being a bit less awesome.
Incarna technically should have been a similar size expansion but it just went so off the rails that not only did CCP pull back from WiS but from diving into any large content spearheads at all.
For the most part I am glad. We've had some excellent balancing work along with tr3 BCs, new destroyers, some interesting new modules, TiDi, lots of things that together make EVE a more playable game.
However, the shift of resources is clearly in the Dust camp at present and like it or not we better all hope it comes off because revenue from it will dictate in some way the future of EVE.
With WiS and even TeamAvatar firmly in the bin I would hope focus turns towards POSs. They are the mainstay of life for many pioneering corporations. In fact they should have been more functional from the off so that Outposts did not proliferate into a boring sea of stations.
New POS models would be nice, ones that are of a more sensible scale to replace the lol-tiny ship hangars. Also some kind of better docking system to prevent the sea of shared ships waiting to get confused, AWOXed or lost. Ability to switch out T3 subs.
More specialisation would be nice. Like a super cap dock system could be cool or an improved system for industrialists. Whatever they come up with it will be useful to most players too hi, low and null bears alike.
TL; DR: POSs The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2338
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:46:00 -
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What about ponies?
Sorry, could not help it. I was expecting someone to have asked already.
Seriously (internet spaceships - serious business you know) it's going to be hard to beat Apocrypha.
I would hope for something on the level of a world-changing event, preferably hooked into some live events (the only reason why I stick around is for these live events). Maybe well see Jita get blown up. or something significant. I hope everybody will be inconvenienced too.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
4780
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Posted - 2012.12.30 22:59:00 -
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My list for another Apocrypha and beyond would be
- POS management revamp, better role management, the long awaited Modular POS system that's been discussed for years in F&I
- Corp management revamp
- More incursions, bring on the rest of the pirate factions but keep their current damage types and resists, (Incursions Jnr) make it so they contend for system control in faction warfare.
- Tech/teir 3 frigates or destroyers, but they need to be balanced.
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2338
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:19:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:My list for another Apocrypha and beyond would be
- POS management revamp, better role management, the long awaited Modular POS system that's been discussed for years in F&I
- Corp management revamp
- More incursions, bring on the rest of the pirate factions but keep their current damage types and resists, (Incursions Jnr) make it so they contend for system control in faction warfare.
- Tech/teir 3 frigates or destroyers, but they need to be balanced.
At least some T3 modules that can be fitted to T2 ships, but I am noticing that the backstory for some new modules implies that sleeper technology is behind them, thus we are in fact getting T3 technology "for free".
T3 small rigs that can fit even T1 ships would cause a major rift in the calculator warfare aspects of ship fitting. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
666
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:19:00 -
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ConranAntoni wrote:Gilbaron wrote:2013 will bring us dust, pretty big thing if you ask me ;)
the possibilities of combined eve and dust are virtually endless Yeah, having dust bunnies shitting up local in l33t speak alongside the usual sperging will be super awesome. you mean, jita in a normal Sunday primetime?
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
88
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:29:00 -
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I can't wait for all the CoD players that hop into Dust get their asses scammed off by Jita local |
Tomar Martens
Aliastra Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:41:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:I can't wait for all the CoD players that hop into Dust get their asses scammed off by Jita local
My son is a CoD player who will be jumping in - but he already knows about the scams - one less victim sorry |
Jonah Gravenstein
Holistic Materials Research Council
4780
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:44:00 -
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Tomar Martens wrote:Liam Inkuras wrote:I can't wait for all the CoD players that hop into Dust get their asses scammed off by Jita local My son is a CoD player who will be jumping in - but he already knows about the scams - one less victim sorry
If he's clever he'll be the one doing the scamming, he's already got a huge advantage over the majority by knowing about it.
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |
GreenSeed
134
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:49:00 -
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PoS update has been needed for ages but it HAS to be done along with a manufacturing/science/mining update at the same time.
and all those 4 things have to be done at the same time Corp/alliances get an overhaul, at least when it comes to roles, SoV space management, and player/player player/corp corp/corp contracts.
so its not really about new content, but about getting old content right, in a process similar to what the current rebalance is doing.
i could go on and on for hours about the things that need to be changed... BPOs/BPCs stopping being items, updates on research process, ownership of research projects/manufacturing jobs on corps, corp ownership of ships and modules, to allow real compartmentalization inside corporations/alliances. in/out of corp access to PLAYER owned manufacturing/research facilities. complete removal of NPC manufacturing and research. eve stock market, so we can trow money to the pigs hoping they will turn in to responsible business men and will not take our money and run. ship/module dispensers to allow restocking of ships used on whatever doctrine/fleet comp/role pilots have to fill. better tracking of corp members actions, to better reward attendance, pvp/industry activity, etc.
not to mention updates to SOv management. people, specially null people, need to understand that renters are bad for alliances... But tax paying, contract fulfilling, infrastructure building citizens, not so much.
this also goes with the idea of updating contracts, not only player/player but player/corp and corp/corp etc.
honestly, the point is the pew pew side of eve, needs to understand that if we get new toys to play with, you get more ships to shoot with, and to shoot at. its time for an industry based eve expansion, just as 50% of new players come to eve looking for peevepee, the other 50% come looking for market play and to mine them roids, because they don't feel pain the way we do.
has anyone seen x rebirth?
actual assembly lines. in space.
ccp gives me that and i will make you ships, for free. because **** it, its an actual assembly line in space, with all the parts simulated. get it? you nerdgasmed the keyboard. want to read it again? here it goes. ASSEMBLY LINES, IN SPACE. please ccp, im so good at this industry crap i don't even use spreadsheets anymore... give us something new, intricate, not overly complicated. intricate is good. food for brain. and... assembly lines, in space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9I0UzWb5GU
in space, assembly lines... you! |
leoplusma
Delfus Inc. HumAnnoyeD
155
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Posted - 2012.12.30 23:51:00 -
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how about walking in stations? this is a huge change we never actually saw it in full - yet.
omg if only there is a cafe in station where we can hang around and watch the space outside :)
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2146
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Posted - 2012.12.31 00:13:00 -
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I wonder when CCP will drop some news on us about what is coming next...
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Dea della Morte
Perkone Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.12.31 01:14:00 -
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Gogela wrote:I wonder when CCP will drop some news on us about what is coming next...
Dramatic music as we wait for a dev |
Etherealclams
Clams ate my Narwhal
259
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Posted - 2012.12.31 01:36:00 -
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Dea della Morte wrote:Gogela wrote:I wonder when CCP will drop some news on us about what is coming next... Dramatic music as we wait for a dev
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Dea della Morte
Perkone Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2012.12.31 01:46:00 -
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The CCPeeps are sleeping, or having sexy party with hilmar ...himlar
However you spell it |
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
52
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Posted - 2012.12.31 02:05:00 -
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Lots of low becomes High. Lots of Null becomes Low. And lots of brandi new stars suddenly appear to give something new for null.
The march of progress.
...end transmission... GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½ |
Dark Calling
Phoenix of the Black Sun Wrong Hole.
58
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Posted - 2012.12.31 02:52:00 -
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I would love a pure Wormhole space expansion..
With it could come:
Tech 3 Frigates
POS Revamp
More and different sites to scan down (More content and things to do)
Maybe a new type of resource only found in Wormholes
Perhaps a new race of sleepers awakening
Tech 3 modules
There are a lot of things that could be added to the game that people already really want with an expansion like that
I would say sky is the limit but we're in space so there is no limit.. The potential for greatness is there and a whole different way to play the game could be upgraded to something even more amazing
And would also serve in getting more people interested in this Wormhole space niche and maybe even move some players to venture away from highsec, lowsec and null alike to find something new in the game they might enjoy
Perhaps even bring many new players to the game which is definitely a top three goal atleast
Plus.. Who wouldn't want a Tech 3 frigate to play with? I definitely do Failure Is Not Falling Down.. Failure Is Refusing To Get Back Up |
ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple
155
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Posted - 2012.12.31 02:58:00 -
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Mildew Wolf wrote:What I recall at the time of apocrypha these forums were mostly full of people whining about stupid stuff and saying eve is dying so nothing has changed |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1403
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Posted - 2012.12.31 05:02:00 -
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Dark Calling wrote:I would love a pure Wormhole space expansion.. With it could come: Tech 3 Frigates
POS Revamp
More and different sites to scan down (More content and things to do)
Maybe a new type of resource only found in Wormholes
Perhaps a new race of sleepers awakening
Tech 3 modulesThere are a lot of things that could be added to the game that people already really want with an expansion like that I would say sky is the limit but we're in space so there is no limit.. The potential for greatness is there and a whole different way to play the game could be upgraded to something even more amazing And would also serve in getting more people interested in this Wormhole space niche and maybe even move some players to venture away from highsec, lowsec and null alike to find something new in the game they might enjoy Even if your not interested in Wormholes an expansion like that would still bring much wanted things to any area of the game you play most with.. Especially POS Revamp Perhaps even bring many new players to the game which is definitely a top three goal atleast Plus.. Who wouldn't want a Tech 3 frigate to play with? I definitely do Personally I would like them to fix POS and corp management (apparently fixing corp management is off the table) and fix the yield for spod, nerf NPC facilities and increase the fuel usage for jump drives and bridges. What I do not wanting them to do is play with wormholes. They are good enough as is and if they play with it it might just get broken like so much else is in this game. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2016
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Posted - 2012.12.31 05:17:00 -
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POS that dont suck will be cool and I could get down with giving low sec something really desirable. Something to fight for/over above and beyond orbiting beacons. Obviously 0.0 needs a new conflict driver as well with moons getting the nerfbat.
I like the cruiser changes and have been having a blast flying a Bellicose and Celestis. Keep making terrible ships less terrible and maybe even introduce something new like T3 frigs. Like a Daredevil on crack. . |
Etherealclams
Clams ate my Narwhal
261
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Posted - 2012.12.31 06:22:00 -
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Dark Calling wrote:I would love a pure Wormhole space expansion.. With it could come: Tech 3 Frigates
POS Revamp
More and different sites to scan down (More content and things to do)
Maybe a new type of resource only found in Wormholes
Perhaps a new race of sleepers awakening
Tech 3 modulesThere are a lot of things that could be added to the game that people already really want with an expansion like that I would say sky is the limit but we're in space so there is no limit.. The potential for greatness is there and a whole different way to play the game could be upgraded to something even more amazing And would also serve in getting more people interested in this Wormhole space niche and maybe even move some players to venture away from highsec, lowsec and null alike to find something new in the game they might enjoy Even if your not interested in Wormholes an expansion like that would still bring much wanted things to any area of the game you play most with.. Especially POS Revamp Perhaps even bring many new players to the game which is definitely a top three goal atleast Plus.. Who wouldn't want a Tech 3 frigate to play with? I definitely do
No t3 frigates. It would make all other obsolete. (a¦á_a¦â) -á(GîÉGûá_Gûá) (a¦á_a¦á) GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ |
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