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Toilet Tsunami
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.31 04:51:00 -
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Hi all,
Could someone steer me in the right direction for getting specific information on a high-sec POS? I'm looking for an optimized setup to research BPOs and make BPCs. I'd like to know what would be included in the setup (startup costs), how many research vs copying slots there'd be, and what it'd take to keep up monthly (recurring costs).
I'd likely use a service to set it up, as I don't think I'd want to grind the rep up that would be required initially on my own.
Thanks for your assistance in advance! |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2012.12.31 04:58:00 -
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Toilet Tsunami wrote:Hi all,
Could someone steer me in the right direction for getting specific information on a high-sec POS? I'm looking for an optimized setup to research BPOs and make BPCs. I'd like to know what would be included in the setup (startup costs), how many research vs copying slots there'd be, and what it'd take to keep up monthly (recurring costs).
I'd likely use a service to set it up, as I don't think I'd want to grind the rep up that would be required initially on my own.
Thanks for your assistance in advance!
http://eve.1019.net/pos/
Like EFT, but for POS's
Pick a tower (I think caldari is usually popular for HS research with HIGH CPU)
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Toilet Tsunami
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.31 05:20:00 -
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Thanks for the link, much appreciated.
Is there a limit on how many BPC/ME/PE jobs that can be running by any one character at a time? Or is it solely limited by the amount of copying/ME/PE slots in the labs? |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.12.31 05:41:00 -
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Toilet Tsunami wrote:Thanks for the link, much appreciated.
Is there a limit on how many BPC/ME/PE jobs that can be running by any one character at a time? Or is it solely limited by the amount of copying/ME/PE slots in the labs?
The only limit is based on your characters skills (lab ops, adv lab ops). If you have the slots and your characters have the skills you can install the job.
Optimal setup will totally depend on what you're going to mainly focus on, I'm guessing 6 - 7 mobile labs and 3 - 5 advanced mobile labs would be best for you. No need to a corp hangar or arrays or any such thing. Just make sure to anchor some hardeners and guns and keep them offline. If you get wardeced just offline your least important labs and online hardeners and guns.
Basic cost will be: 1 large caldari tower 290m 7 mobile labs 735M 3 - 4 advanced labs 500m 12 hardeners 60m 12 guns 60m 2 months fuel 600m
total: 2.25B |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.31 06:32:00 -
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beh..
HIsec tower you say? Optimized for Bpc creation?
IF you are not worried about wardecs and wil take down your tower when you do happen to get one, then use a large caldari tower
1 large caldari tower 10 Advanced labs 3 Regular labs.
Slot layout 33 copy 29 Material efficiency 9 PE 35 Invention
CPU / PG use 7,500/7,500 - 1,250,000/2,750,000
+ 1 station in system with all your bpos never research from lab hangers always from corp hanger in a station.
costs are uh.. 290? + 105?*3 + 135?*10 + fuel + charters 290+315+1,350+600+5? ballpark 2.56b?
Of course you can always start with a small or medium, if you dont have the characters or the bpos to fill a large tower. mediums are 4xadv lab + 2x regular lab (or 6x adv but then you get no PE slots and fewer inventions but more copy) smalls are 3x adv or 3 regular or 2x adv+ 1 or 2x reg +1 adv
figure that you can have at max 11 research jobs running per character at max skills. so how many slots you actually need is up to you. IF you are new to the entire pos system, start with a small and a few labs.
also towers need standings to be anchored but not to be onlined so even if your standings fall after you anchor the tower(s) you can offline and online them. saving fuel if you are not using the capacity. or allowing you to online that large you also happened to anchor while you had the standings but didnt use because you were using the small to figure out what it was that you needed... Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2012.12.31 20:59:00 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:beh..
HIsec tower you say? Optimized for Bpc creation?
IF you are not worried about wardecs and wil take down your tower when you do happen to get one, then use a large caldari tower
1 large caldari tower.
I would argue with a large caldari tower, there are few chances people are going to try and take it down unless it is offline, especially if you set it up to be a **** star as in highsec there are no dreads. So with enough hardeners and ecm you can make a tower so difficult to kill that most will avoid it. You would really, and I mean really, have to **** someone off enough to kill a **** star in highsec.
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Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.31 22:41:00 -
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even without the anchored weapons, taking it down and putting it back up is easy enough. and in hisec that stuff can always be bougght later or usually not at all. it jsut depends on where it is that you are putting up your tower and your other activities in the game.
For the most part if it is a dedicated alt corp (as many research corps are) then there will be little to no reason any one will ever mess with the tower.
IF you arent close to jita or in caldari space at all, your chances of being wardeced by some clown for lolz goes down dramatically. Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2013.01.01 07:04:00 -
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What I meant by arguing is the need to take it down. If you add lots of shield hardeners and ECM and whatever goodies you can fit, and the fact that the Large Caldari Tower has the most shield HP of any tower (not including faction), means that chances you will need to take it down for a war is slim. Most merc corps won't even touch a large caldari tower due to the overwhelming amount of resources it needs to be taken down if it is a **** star tower.
If they do the cost is so high that you would never recuperate the cost in the mods taken, unless you shot at it yourself. Which in highsec will take ages unless you have a pretty sizeable fleet, and normally only 0.0 alliances have the manpower to build such a fleet. |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2013.01.01 07:16:00 -
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Most hardeners / turrets / ecm / etc are about 5m - 7m isk each. And if you can't afford 100m - 150m in defense chances are you wont be able to utilize or afford a highsec tower. |
Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2013.01.01 20:09:00 -
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Styth spiting wrote:Most hardeners / turrets / ecm / etc are about 5m - 7m isk each. And if you can't afford 100m - 150m in defense chances are you wont be able to utilize or afford a highsec tower.
Very true, I mean if you badly want to take it down every time you get wardecced you can always do so, but it can take over an hour to bring a large tower down so you have to be careful as you only have 24 hours to get it done. Any not everyone pays close attention to the game every day.
But in all honesty, if you can't afford defensive mods, how are you going to afford a bunch of labs, the tower itself, and the fuel to run it every month lol. Not including any other mods to go with it. In the case of the OP unless he/she is planning on doing a significant amount of research and copying, he/she can fit 3 labs on a small tower and be able to rip it down in less than half an hour. Plus the fuel costs are significantly better.
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