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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
211
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Posted - 2013.01.02 22:23:00 -
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well ccp are not dumb. why create a permanent solution to the bot problem when you can profit off the idiots who do it. if they open new accounts twice a month due to bans then ccp is making money. the only people ccp would be fighting are identity thieves if they got very serous about making a final solution to botters. |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
35
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Posted - 2013.01.02 22:42:00 -
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Soook Yu wrote:leoplusma wrote: last night, home system infested by 40 retrievers their pilot names were : "Replicant_****_01" all way to "Replicant_****_40". they were behaving in mining the ice belt like... bots. lol.
petitioned it. i guess many of us did. no response yet.
today i realise that those users dont even exist anymore in eve database! along with them, some other Replicants too (i think Replicant Dew or something) are too missing.
soooo i guess ccp kicked them out of the game.
any chance for an official validation of my assumptions?
thanks ccp
leo
The Replicant fleet has been on the Misnededn Ice Belt for the past 4 hours or so. They all warp in and out at the same time. All 40 of them. They don't answer in local which is his right I guess but he isn't doing himself any favours. That's Misneden IV - Ice Field 1
Warping around at the same time is not an indication of botting. For one there is the "warp fleet to..." command. Secondly, broadcasting commands to multiple clients is exactly what multiboxing software allows you to do.
Not answering in local is not a sign of botting. It's just being anti-social. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
3052
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Posted - 2013.01.02 22:46:00 -
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I'd be really interested to know how much isk is removed from the economy because of bot bans. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Dave stark
1445
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Posted - 2013.01.02 22:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I'd be really interested to know how much isk is removed from the economy because of bot bans. i'll wager not much, if we're taking about ice mining bots. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Soook Yu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 22:52:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:Soook Yu wrote:The Replicant fleet has been on the Misnededn Ice Belt for the past 4 hours or so. They all warp in and out at the same time. All 40 of them. They don't answer in local which is his right I guess but he isn't doing himself any favours. That's Misneden IV - Ice Field 1 Warping around at the same time is not an indication of botting. For one there is the "warp fleet to..." command. Secondly, broadcasting commands to multiple clients is exactly what multiboxing software allows you to do. Not answering in local is not a sign of botting. It's just being anti-social.
Which is why i said It's his right i guess :-) I know reading is tough son but it helps in the end.
I should add that the timing of the various warps is suspicious with it coinciding with suspects in local but again, that's all it is. Suspicious. |
leoplusma
Delfus Inc. HumAnnoyeD
207
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:18:00 -
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here we are again, "replicators" this time : http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1301/replicators_again.jpg
illegal botting or legal multiboxing? either way its disturbing somehow.
leo |
Soook Yu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:37:00 -
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Do you mean Replicator Deka1-40 ? |
Dramelus
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:38:00 -
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I know definitely that he is not a bot.
It's very funny to read 5 pages about your flame. My whole corp laughs about this thread and the pilots who lives in their hello kitty online world. |
Soook Yu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:48:00 -
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da da |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
565
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:55:00 -
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leoplusma wrote:
any chance for an official validation of my assumptions?
leo
Yep if they were part of Test Alliance then they were definitely bots OUR LOGS SHOW NOTHING |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2884
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:56:00 -
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Soook Yu wrote:I should add that the timing of the various warps is suspicious with it coinciding with suspects in local but again, that's all it is. Suspicious.
That statement could have some value if you had some data to support the claim of correlation between suspects appearing in local and fleet warping out of belt, controlling for routine warpouts for the purpose of emptying ice into stations. Otherwise you are simply rumour mongering. Remember to include all instances of suspects appearing in local, and avoid confirmation bias (for example, there can be no correlation between suspects in local and fleet warping out if there are always suspects in local). Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
2884
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Posted - 2013.01.02 23:57:00 -
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leoplusma wrote:deleted by me. btw another set of 40 bots are in system tonite mining ice.
You have determined that they are bots using what methodology?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Soook Yu
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.03 00:01:00 -
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Had fun with this. The banter is better in local now.
Who ever mentioned test btw, it was one of their's that was floating around half the day. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
3199
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Posted - 2013.01.03 00:08:00 -
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40 accounts with a similar name does not prove they were running bots. You would have to be a complete moron to do so with such a setup.
I'm more interested in why people get so bent out of shape about miners anyway. If you hate their playstyle, what is to be said of your playstyle running about high-sec with your hall-monitor badge on grassing on people with no evidence whatsoever. If that's how you define fun then you have no business knocking other people for what they do.
You provide less input to the game than any dedicated miner does. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.co.uk/~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
673
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Posted - 2013.01.03 00:09:00 -
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I'll believe there was a bot crackdown when I see another "nerf hisec" whine thread.
Oh wait...
Damn, nice job CCP! EvE Forum Bingo |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6209
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:13:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Andski wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:I noticed a few months ago they did one of those mass bot bans. The system where I mine ice would normally have close to 100 people in it, not all mining ice of course, but anyway, the next day, the system had about 60 people in it on average, and only about a third of the ice miners. Was like that for a while, but now the numbers were creeping back up again. Will have to check to see if there are fewer in there now. Really cool when you see it happen. wow 40 in one system? I thought the eve-o forum alt pubbie consensus was that all bots were in nullsec You have it all wrong friend. The bots mains are in null sec. Do try and keep up.
"Hisec pubbies: too honourable to bot" ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1587
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:39:00 -
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CCP was playing with you. Those toons were actually CCP running thin clients to test the new Mackinaws and resultant server load live on the TQ server.
Good a guess as any; who else is going to name 40 toons Replicant? You'd think a botter would be smarter. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
36
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:45:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:who else is going to name 40 toons Replicant?
Most multiboxers give there characters similiar names. It makes it easier to keep track all your minions.
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Xado Employee 57463-A1
Xado Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:47:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote: Most multiboxers give there characters similiar names. It makes it easier to keep track all your minions.
That's right boss.
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Xado Employee 87543-J2
Xado Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:48:00 -
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Xado Employee 57463-A1 wrote: That's right boss.
Jeeeeesh. You are such a suck up!
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Jason Xado
Xado Industries
36
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Posted - 2013.01.03 01:49:00 -
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Get back to work! Both of you! |
Kogh Ayon
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.01.03 02:28:00 -
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There were heaps of high-sec mission bots and NPC-null belt bots/anomaly bots, and a simple drone AI change fixed all of them. So there are definitely similar ways that can fix the mining bots. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
3057
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Posted - 2013.01.03 02:39:00 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:There were heaps of high-sec mission bots and NPC-null belt bots/anomaly bots, and a simple drone AI change fixed all of them. So there are definitely similar ways that can fix the mining bots. Drone AI didn't change. NPC AI changed. AFK mission and anomaly bots weren't really affected. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3142
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Posted - 2013.01.03 03:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Andski wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:I noticed a few months ago they did one of those mass bot bans. The system where I mine ice would normally have close to 100 people in it, not all mining ice of course, but anyway, the next day, the system had about 60 people in it on average, and only about a third of the ice miners. Was like that for a while, but now the numbers were creeping back up again. Will have to check to see if there are fewer in there now. Really cool when you see it happen. wow 40 in one system? I thought the eve-o forum alt pubbie consensus was that all bots were in nullsec You have it all wrong friend. The bots mains are in null sec. Do try and keep up. "Hisec pubbies: too honourable to bot" Lol, haha. Good one. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Thomas Orca
Zero Fun Allowed Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
154
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Posted - 2013.01.03 03:39:00 -
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Kogh Ayon wrote:There were heaps of high-sec mission bots and NPC-null belt bots/anomaly bots, and a simple drone AI change fixed all of them. So there are definitely similar ways that can fix the mining bots.
Tell me more about this magical drone AI change that fixed botting sentry carriers and tengus. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
427
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Posted - 2013.01.03 07:17:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Andski wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: find both botting and multiboxing abhorent.
They achieve the same destructive ends.
Also, an accusation is not a determination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you multi-box too. Practice what you preach, tia~ 2 Hulks and an Orca max. Hardly need to box. Correcting you as asked.
I can agree with both of you on 2 different points:
1-using multiple accounts should never be a problem and even encouraged (differently I'd say but it's just me)
2-the use of external programs for multiboxing purpose should NOT be aloud and included in CCP gaming rules as high offense level leading to direct and permanent ban.
People liking to multitask that much are already good at it, they don't need anything else than a couple more screens and keyboards, multiboxing doesn't need any skill but some knowledge of the program you use and some practice. There is no real difference in between bots (macro/program) and a multibox program, people can use as much arguments as they like but they have to agree on one thing: both need someone in command at some point and both are automate programs for the same task in several pc's.
By the way, all you have to do is google it to find out "multiboxing" programs are easy to find
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3144
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Posted - 2013.01.03 07:35:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:There is no real difference in between bots (macro/program) and a multibox program, people can use as much arguments as they like but they have to agree on one thing: both need someone in command at some point and both are automate programs for the same task in several pc's. Though I multibox three different ratting ships to make my isk ...
Haha look at you, are you jealous of someone's multiboxing empire mining in highsec or something? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
72
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Posted - 2013.01.03 07:51:00 -
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One question that seriously is of intrest to me .. in another (endless) discussion doing mining afk was called against the rules because you were not 'actually play the game' ... where do you PLAY the game with some 40 clients simultaniously ? Where is the fun to play a game that way ? I just don't get it ... YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |
Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.01.03 07:56:00 -
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So, what about the market bots.... oh yea, hard to detect. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
583
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Posted - 2013.01.03 08:01:00 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote:So, what about the market bots.... oh yea, hard to detect.
Like any bot, the only ones that get caught aren't very good at it. Even in a very bot friendly game like EVE. |
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