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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:48:00 -
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Gee I wonder what this little period between 10th and 22nd is then where its still a closed beta where only peopel with codes can get in.
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NeVrain
Sleeping Giant Services Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:58:00 -
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Olmarin Angel wrote:This may sound strange, but will Eve players be able to place bounties on DUST soldiers?
But in the long run, here's to hoping bounties can go both ways.
For my money, that is exactly what CCP is planning to do. |
NeVrain
Sleeping Giant Services Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:06:00 -
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Daisuke Aoki wrote:Still wondering exactly how DUST is going to affect nullsec sov. It's seriously a big deal for a lot of us and there haven't been much specifics about the mechanics. Just kind of vague talk about planets.
The fact that CCP's been so mum on it concerns me, as if they're expecting it to be unpopular with EVE players and just going to spring it on us.
My bet is that the moongoo redistribution and DUST will have some points of contact. That's a ways away, though. |
Udonor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.01.10 07:22:00 -
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So does orbital strike come with pop-up gun camera window so we can see what we are shooting at (and of course the effects?)
Or is the EVE orbital strike forward aerospace observer coordinates controlled -- i.e. not really personal and highly friendly fire prone -- just destroy that square? Or is it AI gun target controlled (got some IFF and target priorities) but again not much real time owner operator feedback? |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy Samurai Pizza Cats
97
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Posted - 2013.01.10 07:23:00 -
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just a quick thought in terms of people on planets firing at say an orbiting cap fleet, dreads are big yes, massive power cores, titans even bigger and have DD's, but they're still just ships. If you control an entire section of a planet, and have no need to, you know, power a spaceship the size of Maine, why wouldn't you be able to build the biggest f'ing gun the universe and point it at the sky? SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars SLAPD is recruiting -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2360715&#post2360715 |
SaltyandSweet
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
13
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Posted - 2013.01.10 07:46:00 -
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just make sure you guys are doing this **** the day i decide to resub.......... |
Udonor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.01.10 07:46:00 -
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Also for the EVE crowd not in the closed beta -- what's the ground fire shoot back situation? Is there a selection of orbital heights for strafing -- i.e. high risk high accuracy vs low-no risk of ground fire but very inaccurate and increased friendly fire?
Plus if as in the year ago DUST trailer EVE support ships might actual make deep atmospheric dives (orbital skimming or tangential hyperbolic diving orbits) - what happens when the ground fire gets lucky blows up an EVE ship?
Normal pod escape I assume - though again I suspect EVE pilot take chances with more ground fire with no CONCORD consequences for DUSTies.
I assume only DUST descent shuttles are moving slow enough to fall on the battlefield. I assume EVE ships make high speed stratospheric passes at best. Meaning any explosion blast waves from ship destruction mostly reflect off the boundary with the troposphere and wreckage similarly skips off to low orbit or has a pre-planned fall into an ocean far away.
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Udonor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:09:00 -
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Cat Casidy wrote:just a quick thought in terms of people on planets firing at say an orbiting cap fleet, dreads are big yes, massive power cores, titans even bigger and have DD's, but they're still just ships. If you control an entire section of a planet, and have no need to, you know, power a spaceship the size of Maine, why wouldn't you be able to build the biggest f'ing gun the universe and point it at the sky?
Simple answer: Ships don't have politics, atmospheres or ecological concerns nor many people.
First note that any EVE weapon bigger than small guns is considered to destructive for helping achieve DUST objectives. True you can Bring Titan as ultimate hardy mounting platform - but its not really economic use of time and risk in most cases.
Similar arguments apply in part to activating major planetary defenses for defense of one small area...especially when area is being conquered not destroyed. Keep in mind population and buildings in area around a DUST objective would far exceed the at risk portion. Plus most DUST missions are to capture DUST objective structures or areas.
Also EVE history has Titans and larger ships used more as blockade bases (reality sort of bends now that huge drones bays are removed but still) -- not firing on planets for most part. When they do the target are not captured but eliminated. Nobody really wins except in genocide sense.
--- Physically ? & Economically? --- Aiming that huge gun might be problem. But the biggest problem is blast waves from muzzle would not be healthy to people and ordinary structures for many kilometers around. But yeah unified planetary defense probably can have such guns.
BUT the point of DUST is corporate and political warfare at the points just under where that would be economically and politically feasible.
Sort why don't we have full scale global war over 911/ Iraq / Korean missiles / etc ?
-- Politically? ---
A lot of corporate or small but key political conquests will effect less than 5-10% of planet. Further that 5-10% would not be facing total destruction or extermination only loss of control over certain industry or government structures. Thus instruments of total war would not be authorized.
Even more telling your area may well have planetary opponents voting to withhold use of that that UN / planetary style defense system.
The biggest EVE corp has far few members than planetary nations - so its easier for EVE corp to get concen |
Veronika Kastrato
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:35:00 -
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I guess almost nothing changes for us than... pew.. Peeew... |
Rurod Arkdale
Royal Caldari Imperial Guard
1
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:35:00 -
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Good luck,
I can't wait to see what will happen here |
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Dex Tera
Clann Fian Transmission Lost
66
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:43:00 -
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nova shut up you talk to much geezus |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
4244
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:55:00 -
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Dex Tera wrote:nova shut up you talk to much geezus
Im sorry but there is a large number of people who dont understand dust 514 because of the NDA and I am informing them the best of my ability of what I do know is publicly disclosed knowledge.
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Dex Tera
Clann Fian Transmission Lost
66
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:59:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:Will it be possible for a character to be both an EVE and a DUST character?
Will there be a client update to DUST on the PS3?
stupidest question in this thread. |
Myyona
Ataraxia Pharmacies
36
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:11:00 -
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Dex Tera wrote:Karim alRashid wrote:Will it be possible for a character to be both an EVE and a DUST character?
Will there be a client update to DUST on the PS3? stupidest question in this thread. Perhaps, but there sure are many contenders.
Btw. a lot of peeps appears confused regarding the DUST soldiers place in the Eve universe. I recommend this video. CEO - Ataraxia Pharmacies Biography |
Dex Tera
Clann Fian Transmission Lost
66
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:22:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Dex Tera wrote:nova shut up you talk to much geezus Im sorry but there is a large number of people who dont understand dust 514 because of the NDA and I am informing them the best of my ability of what I do know is publicly disclosed knowledge.
im just kidding bout the shut up part but u do post alot |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
522
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:56:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Smoking Blunts wrote:dust players can apply to eve corporations directly? or will we have to place dust adverts? No advert is required, they just search and apply. Smoking Blunts wrote:do the eve corporations need to be in FW for them to apply? No, the EVE players only need to be in faction warfare if they want to provide orbital support. We'll have more on that in an FAQ released later this week.
This makes the hole thing entirely uninteresting for the better part of the Eve community - well done. Edit: Oh wait - we will kill the Orbital bombardment fleets instead.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Hidden Snake
Genco Fatal Ascension
235
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:16:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Daisuke Aoki wrote:Still wondering exactly how DUST is going to affect nullsec sov. It's seriously a big deal for a lot of us and there haven't been much specifics about the mechanics. Just kind of vague talk about planets.
The fact that CCP's been so mum on it concerns me, as if they're expecting it to be unpopular with EVE players and just going to spring it on us. For now, it's not. Only Faction warfare, where it adjusts how much has to be done to flip a system
Poor guinea pigs of FW .... lets hope FW team will change soon and get rid of that stupid idea. .....
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Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:27:00 -
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It will be an interesting dimension of the FW universe. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
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Commander Tovil-Toba
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:30:00 -
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I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about the pay to play aspect of Dust and EVE? correct me if i'm wrong but Dust players don't have to pay to play thier game to interact with EVE pilots in the EVE universe, but EVE pilots still have to pay to play the game and interact with dust players on PS3?? |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:34:00 -
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Commander Tovil-Toba wrote:I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about the pay to play aspect of Dust and EVE? correct me if i'm wrong but Dust players don't have to pay to play thier game to interact with EVE pilots in the EVE universe, but EVE pilots still have to pay to play the game and interact with dust players on PS3??
They pay via subscription with Sony (non-specific to the ccp game) I believe. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
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Agaetis Byrjun Endalaust
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:56:00 -
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where is the "I want to start downloading the mega-patch nao" thread? ______________________________ just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not after you |
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
47
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:57:00 -
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Amun Khonsu wrote:Commander Tovil-Toba wrote:I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about the pay to play aspect of Dust and EVE? correct me if i'm wrong but Dust players don't have to pay to play thier game to interact with EVE pilots in the EVE universe, but EVE pilots still have to pay to play the game and interact with dust players on PS3?? They pay via subscription with Sony (non-specific to the ccp game) I believe.
There is no subscription fee for the normal Playstation Network as far as I'm aware. IIRC there is a subscription based 'prefered membership' or something like that but again AFAIK it's not required to play Dust. I would imagine that Sony gets a cut of all the Aurum transactions when Dust players buy Aurum from the Playstation Store, but that's just speculation on my part.
If I start getting a bill for a standard run of the mill PSN sub, I'm going to cancel it and sell my PS3.... |
Carol Krabit
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:06:00 -
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A bag of awesome! But please tell me that the NDA is being lifted, if not today, soonish. It's silly to imagine a battle comms situation restricted by the NDA. Heck even the combat logs themselves are breaching it, aren't they? |
Kairos Exploratio
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:11:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Better graphics, good sound, better voice acting, 12 ships, 3 races, a metal/organics/crystal/energy resource system, a couple dozen copy paste weapons, avatar combat, market, hand holding sandbox, and character progression both sides is a 4 year mmo project, throw mass market and less frustrating controls/concepts/player flow and you may have a serious contender. Luckily EA screws up Eve killers just as much as they screw up Wow killers.
Don't worry, EA will always keep raping / screwing up every game they publish ;)
That's just what they do xD |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1046
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:12:00 -
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Baljos Arnjak wrote:Amun Khonsu wrote:Commander Tovil-Toba wrote:I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about the pay to play aspect of Dust and EVE? correct me if i'm wrong but Dust players don't have to pay to play thier game to interact with EVE pilots in the EVE universe, but EVE pilots still have to pay to play the game and interact with dust players on PS3?? They pay via subscription with Sony (non-specific to the ccp game) I believe. There is no subscription fee for the normal Playstation Network as far as I'm aware. IIRC there is a subscription based 'prefered membership' or something like that but again AFAIK it's not required to play Dust. I would imagine that Sony gets a cut of all the Aurum transactions when Dust players buy Aurum from the Playstation Store, but that's just speculation on my part. If I start getting a bill for a standard run of the mill PSN sub, I'm going to cancel it and sell my PS3....
Correct.
Dust will be entirely free to play, with the ability to get some kit by spending real money. This kit will not be better than kit bought with ISK, just different. Perhaps easier to fit, or a little easier to use. It will not be in any way required to win.
There may be other uses for Aurum, but I'm constrained by the NDA here. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:15:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Baljos Arnjak wrote:Amun Khonsu wrote:Commander Tovil-Toba wrote:I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about the pay to play aspect of Dust and EVE? correct me if i'm wrong but Dust players don't have to pay to play thier game to interact with EVE pilots in the EVE universe, but EVE pilots still have to pay to play the game and interact with dust players on PS3?? They pay via subscription with Sony (non-specific to the ccp game) I believe. There is no subscription fee for the normal Playstation Network as far as I'm aware. IIRC there is a subscription based 'prefered membership' or something like that but again AFAIK it's not required to play Dust. I would imagine that Sony gets a cut of all the Aurum transactions when Dust players buy Aurum from the Playstation Store, but that's just speculation on my part. If I start getting a bill for a standard run of the mill PSN sub, I'm going to cancel it and sell my PS3.... Correct. Dust will be entirely free to play, with the ability to get some kit by spending real money. This kit will not be better than kit bought with ISK, just different. Perhaps easier to fit, or a little easier to use. It will not be in any way required to win. There may be other uses for Aurum, but I'm constrained by the NDA here.
Can anyone download DUST? Or do they have to pay for a premium subscription with Sony? Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
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Sinooko
Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords
48
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:18:00 -
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MMO history in the making!
Years from now I can say "I was there"
My grand-kids will say, "Yeah whatever grandpa, back then you had to use a mouse and keyboard uphill both ways too." Long Live Eve Online! |
J Pascal
Revenge of the Liquidators
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:22:00 -
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The fact of DUST being free to play is easily countered by EVE's "Haha I can fly dat vindicator and u don't" aspect Good decisions come from good judgements, good judgements - from bad decisions.. |
J Pascal
Revenge of the Liquidators
0
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:28:00 -
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BTW " It is recommended that everyone place a long skill in their training queue in order to prevent any disruption of your regular skill training. " Does Galente Titan V fit well? Good decisions come from good judgements, good judgements - from bad decisions.. |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:31:00 -
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J Pascal wrote:BTW " It is recommended that everyone place a long skill in their training queue in order to prevent any disruption of your regular skill training. " Does Galente Titan V fit well?
Anyone suggesting that now has seriously failed. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
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