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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:04:00 -
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I'm assuming that at some point they will be to convert them to AUR & ISK ? Will these PLEX only be available in LO SEC marketplaces or will the DUST bunnies be ableto train market skills for regional sales? WillMERCENARIES have access to contract system ( & associated scams) in near future also? OUR LOGS SHOW NOTHING |
Complex Potential
No Fixed Abode Mildly Intoxicated
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:15:00 -
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I believe this is the way ccp envisions things going. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.11 08:56:00 -
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Will they actually use PLEX, as such, at all? After all, it's a Pilot License Extension and it's tied to the whole concept of one month worth of subscription GÇö neither of which applies to Dust.
From what I've seen, they'll rather buy their AUR from the Sony store directly without going through the whole ETC/GTC/PLEX/AUR conversion process. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
6943
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote: From what I've seen, they'll rather buy their AUR from the Sony store directly without going through the whole ETC/GTC/PLEX/AUR conversion process.
This is my understanding also.
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1595
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:04:00 -
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Dust Mercenaries are not pilots; they are not subscribers; they don't need PLEX. They can potentially buy them on market with ISK if they happen to generate that much, but what would be the point?
It might happen that they can leverage AUR on the market however, selling clothing and such. That would seem to me to be the more likely course of action, though, as I see it, probably unecessary given they can already leverage AUR towards their own items.
There's also no indication that they will have access to the NEx, though they may have access to EVEs market. Actually, for them AUR might be a means to leverage against turns in the EVE economy with regard to their equipment should the two intermingle. Given what happens with EVEs economy, I can see EVE players flipping Dust equipment for a profit and making them prohibitively expensive for DUST Mercs.
That would be unfortunate, but it has a good possibility of occurring if CCP decides to join the two markets fully. This will leave many DUST players with the inability to equip their characters from the ISK market, and they will be forced to rely on MTs to maintain their gameplay, or use basic equipment for most engagements. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
798
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:21:00 -
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there is quite a huge difference between pricing for dust aurum and pricing for eve aurum
i really doubt they will use PLEX at all. We are recruiting german-speaking PVP players, contact me :)
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Matthew97
Pro Synergy ARK.
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Posted - 2013.01.11 09:52:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Dust Mercenaries are not pilots; they are not subscribers; they don't need PLEX. They can potentially buy them on market with ISK if they happen to generate that much, but what would be the point?
It might happen that they can leverage AUR on the market however, selling clothing and such. That would seem to me to be the more likely course of action, though, as I see it, probably unecessary given they can already leverage AUR towards their own items.
There's also no indication that they will have access to the NEx, though they may have access to EVEs market. Actually, for them AUR might be a means to leverage against turns in the EVE economy with regard to their equipment should the two intermingle. Given what happens with EVEs economy, I can see EVE players flipping Dust equipment for a profit and making them prohibitively expensive for DUST Mercs.
That would be unfortunate, but it has a good possibility of occurring if CCP decides to join the two markets fully. This will leave many DUST players with the inability to equip their characters from the ISK market, and they will be forced to rely on MTs to maintain their gameplay, or use basic equipment for most engagements.
Afaik, the dust market isn't connected to the EvE Market (As of yet). Also they can only access certain things, and Plex isn't one of them
Oh and Aurum is purchased via the PS Store with $$$$ |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6816
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Posted - 2013.01.11 10:47:00 -
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If only you could send your merc some isk or other things...
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Mai Khumm
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
409
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:17:00 -
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Considering that Dust is a "Pay for retail box and have no subscription fee." I HIGHLY doubt that they will...
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:19:00 -
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Chribba wrote:If only you could send your merc some isk or other things... You can send me isks anytime if it makes you happy
My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:41:00 -
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Chribba wrote:If only you could send your merc some isk or other things... You will be able to at a later date. P.S I would like to know, will you make your mercs mine veldspar in space suits? Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
6819
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:50:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Chribba wrote:If only you could send your merc some isk or other things... You can send me isks anytime if it makes you happy
Cat Troll wrote:Chribba wrote:If only you could send your merc some isk or other things... You will be able to at a later date. P.S I would like to know, will you make your mercs mine veldspar in space suits? I was out running around all night trying to figure out how to start drilling, no success, left with a 1/21 K/D ratio (and that guy I drove over with a car haha)
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Lipbite
Express Hauler
585
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Posted - 2013.01.11 11:53:00 -
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Good question.
However it seems people here neither played Planetside 2 nor read (all) news about Dust: where will be optional subscription (it'll boos amount of passive skillpoints gain).
However somehow I believe Dust will have different "PLEX" item - it must be cheaper because whole Dust activity (PI) is cheap. Unless, of course, it will be extended onto much more profitable goo moons, asteroid belts, exploration sites, etc. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1003
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:02:00 -
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They dont need PLEX |
Pewty McPew
Pillage Plunder And Rape Industries
144
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Posted - 2013.01.11 13:12:00 -
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They are gonna need ISK to pay for those overpriced tactical assault rifles and vehicles I'm gonna make for them.
The contract scams when the markets merge is gonna be glorious. Can't wait to introduce them to margin trading :)
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Thomas Hurt
Poteque Industries
76
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Posted - 2013.01.11 14:46:00 -
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I am very much looking forward to rich Triggaboos with too much ISK being exposed to the ruthlessness of the EVE market |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
570
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Posted - 2013.01.11 18:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Will they actually use PLEX, as such, at all? After all, it's a Pilot License Extension and it's tied to the whole concept of one month worth of subscription GÇö neither of which applies to Dust.
From what I've seen, they'll rather buy their AUR from the Sony store directly without going through the whole ETC/GTC/PLEX/AUR conversion process.
I didn't know that Sony pruchased AUR was going to be so much cheaper then PLEX converted AUR. Too bad AUR can't be transferred over to EVE then. Another good thing is that DUST then won't become a PLEX sink.
Still one would think if Dust bunnies wanted a quick injection of ISK to purchase those items on the market instead of grinding for ISK a quick PLEX purchase & sale in the markets would give it to them. OUR LOGS SHOW NOTHING |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:04:00 -
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On a related note, I hope to eventually see market access and goods storage (hanger equivalents) at all occupied planets and POS's (after they are redone)..
Every place where people live should have the option of being able to buy and sell goods directly. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1495
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Posted - 2013.01.11 20:07:00 -
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So what everyone is saying is that soon we will all have to endure the multitudes of GD whine threads about the cost of PLEX again.... I cant wait. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
208
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:50:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Tippia wrote:Will they actually use PLEX, as such, at all? After all, it's a Pilot License Extension and it's tied to the whole concept of one month worth of subscription GÇö neither of which applies to Dust.
From what I've seen, they'll rather buy their AUR from the Sony store directly without going through the whole ETC/GTC/PLEX/AUR conversion process. I didn't know that Sony pruchased AUR was going to be so much cheaper then PLEX converted AUR. Too bad AUR can't be transferred over to EVE then. Another good thing is that DUST then won't become a PLEX sink. Still one would think if Dust bunnies wanted a quick injection of ISK to purchase those items on the market instead of grinding for ISK a quick PLEX purchase & sale in the markets would give it to them.
Don't count it out yet. A lot will depend on how it all works out but we do have those who would be interested in a way to do this.
PLEX converts to Aurum but that's done in EVE - can it be done from the Dust side?
Can EVE players pay a Dust player in Aurum?
So on and so forth. Supposedly EVE players will be 'hiring' dust players to do things for them. As such, currency of value to the Dust players will be needed. With 2 currencies, 2 different ways of obtaining them, etc... There is potential use in this fashion and "cheaper" -- look at "play for free" comments about using PLEX...
A very wealthy EVE player can pick up batches of PLEX with isk, transfer that to a dust char who then converts it to Aurum. It might be done but would probably be fairly uncommon to rare.
You need to keep in mind that we do have very isk wealthy players with multiple accounts, that have been keeping those accounts active without paying $$$ for a long time. Such players might find the isk to PLEX conversion trivial for funding a Dust char vs paying cash for Aurum - no matter how much/little Aur might cost real-world dollar wise.
Again, a lot would depend on how the market and paying for services will actually work. If possible, it will probably happen occasionally but I don't see it as a major market impact effect. |
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Mirajane Cromwell
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Posted - 2013.01.14 15:11:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that in time the wealthy Dust mercs will have their part in the PLEX price manipulation attempts... |
Sheena Tzash
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.14 15:39:00 -
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As soon as ISK transfers are allowed to DUST toons I think we'll see a spike in PLEX sales.
I can see CCP making an effort to suck people into EVE via DUST, simply because the rate that you can earn ISK in EVE will most likely out run DUST and so DUST players will create EVE alts, grind missions or sell PLEXes and then transfer that ISK to their DUST toons.
But yeah, like everyone else has said - I doubt DUST players will BUY PLEX themselves as its a free to play game; but I can see PLEX being created and sold by DUST players via an EVE account in order to fuel their DUST characters simply because it avoids much /all of the grind to earn the kredits through gameplay. |
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