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Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:39:00 -
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There ya go. |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
167
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:53:00 -
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Cearain wrote: They openly said they would give back the caldari home systems so they could still get good fights. Sure enough the caldari took the systems.
It is also true, and I openly say it that I let minmatar take Devoid during Farm Wars 1.0. It was also ME and just ME who let them take Aset last year. And now I decided to take back Eugidi, to have good fights against local pirates.
Seriously it's bad enough when ForumWarriors pose as FW players, but when you actively participate in frog propaganda, it is just unacceptable. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
978
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:18:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Seriously it's bad enough when ForumWarriors pose as FW players, but when you actively participate in frog propaganda, it is just unacceptable. The Caldari have started to push outside their allotted constellations and will no doubt have to pay for it now. I will say I'm sorry for the future Caldari FW players that we will have to grief out of the game. (sorry for our part in decreasing your subscriptions/profits CCP chatgris, I hope you have a job when this is done)
These are sad times, indeed.
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Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2013.01.22 14:23:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Cearain wrote: They openly said they would give back the caldari home systems so they could still get good fights. Sure enough the caldari took the systems.
It is also true, and I openly say it that I let minmatar take Devoid during Farm Wars 1.0. It was also ME and just ME who let them take Aset last year. And now I decided to take back Eugidi, to have good fights against local pirates. Seriously it's bad enough when ForumWarriors pose as FW players, but when you actively participate in frog propaganda, it is just unacceptable.
Its one thing for Gallente to say they will let caldari have a few systems back after gallente took *all* the systems. Its quite another for you to say you let them take systems after they already took them.
The tense of the verbs is what is the key difference.
I'm not really sure what you are getting at with the "ME and just ME" bit.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2013.01.22 14:28:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:CCP keeps saying they will tweak system when flaws are made apparent .. well CCP .. how is single anaemic rat, the death of which stops all future spawns, in plexes working out so far?
The improvements to the npcs are a great change for fw. The old days when you had to use pve fits to plex are gone, and its good riddance.
At least the war is being fought by players (yeah even if it is alts) instead of npcs. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Tsobai Hashimoto
FATAL Warfare Hopeless Addiction
100
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Posted - 2013.01.22 20:45:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Cearain wrote: They openly said they would give back the caldari home systems so they could still get good fights. Sure enough the caldari took the systems.
It is also true, and I openly say it that I let minmatar take Devoid during Farm Wars 1.0. It was also ME and just ME who let them take Aset last year. And now I decided to take back Eugidi, to have good fights against local pirates. Seriously it's bad enough when ForumWarriors pose as FW players, but when you actively participate in frog propaganda, it is just unacceptable. Its one thing for Gallente to say they will let caldari have a few systems back after gallente took *all* the systems. Its quite another for you to say you let them take systems after they already took them. The tense of the verbs is what is the key difference. I'm not really sure what you are getting at with the "ME and just ME" bit.
Pretty sure it was "sarcasm" and the ME and ME was talking how you talked.... IE: that your a "badass" that knows everything and controlled the war and knew what everyone was doing and let others do this and this cuz you really wanted it to happen that way in sercret yadda yadda yadda toot your own horn bullcrap
In laymen terms......... You got TROLLED! |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
176
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Posted - 2013.01.22 21:59:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:CCP keeps saying they will tweak system when flaws are made apparent .. well CCP .. how is single anaemic rat, the death of which stops all future spawns, in plexes working out so far? The improvements to the npcs are a great change for fw. The old days when you had to use pve fits to plex are gone, and its good riddance. At least the war is being fought by players (yeah even if it is alts) instead of npcs.
More blatant lies and propaganda... In the old days, I have used a Tornado that did never run from any battlecruiser. Nor did my Drake. And with my Tengu I would have probably taken the fight againt 2. |
Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:32:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Cearain wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:CCP keeps saying they will tweak system when flaws are made apparent .. well CCP .. how is single anaemic rat, the death of which stops all future spawns, in plexes working out so far? The improvements to the npcs are a great change for fw. The old days when you had to use pve fits to plex are gone, and its good riddance. At least the war is being fought by players (yeah even if it is alts) instead of npcs. More blatant lies and propaganda... In the old days, I have used a Tornado that did never run from any battlecruiser. Nor did my Drake. And with my Tengu I would have probably taken the fight againt 2.
PVE Drakes had trouble running a full spawn in a major. Even a full pve fit domi in an open major had problems. The old system of fighting npcs to gain occupancy was bad.
Now the players (even if they are alts) are deciding fw. Not the npcs. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
796
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Posted - 2013.01.23 16:36:00 -
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Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:Cearain wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Cearain wrote: They openly said they would give back the caldari home systems so they could still get good fights. Sure enough the caldari took the systems.
It is also true, and I openly say it that I let minmatar take Devoid during Farm Wars 1.0. It was also ME and just ME who let them take Aset last year. And now I decided to take back Eugidi, to have good fights against local pirates. Seriously it's bad enough when ForumWarriors pose as FW players, but when you actively participate in frog propaganda, it is just unacceptable. Its one thing for Gallente to say they will let caldari have a few systems back after gallente took *all* the systems. Its quite another for you to say you let them take systems after they already took them. The tense of the verbs is what is the key difference. I'm not really sure what you are getting at with the "ME and just ME" bit. Pretty sure it was "sarcasm" and the ME and ME was talking how you talked.... IE: that your a "badass" that knows everything and controlled the war and knew what everyone was doing and let others do this and this cuz you really wanted it to happen that way in sercret yadda yadda yadda toot your own horn bullcrap In laymen terms......... You got TROLLED!
Its odd that he would say that to me, when I specifically said I am not even participating in that part of the war anymore. But like someone already posted, Cynthia's posts make very little sense. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
370
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:51:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Cearain wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:CCP keeps saying they will tweak system when flaws are made apparent .. well CCP .. how is single anaemic rat, the death of which stops all future spawns, in plexes working out so far? The improvements to the npcs are a great change for fw. The old days when you had to use pve fits to plex are gone, and its good riddance. At least the war is being fought by players (yeah even if it is alts) instead of npcs. More blatant lies and propaganda... In the old days, I have used a Tornado that did never run from any battlecruiser. Nor did my Drake. And with my Tengu I would have probably taken the fight againt 2. PVE Drakes had trouble running a full spawn in a major. Even a full pve fit domi in an open major had problems. The old system of fighting npcs to gain occupancy was bad. Now the players (even if they are alts) are deciding fw. Not the npcs.
npc was only trouble if you decided to fight against those, there was ways to avoid that. NPC has never been a problem and will never solve FW problems. |
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1768
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:41:00 -
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I mean, I'm sure someone's pointed this out, but it's actually disadvantageous from all perspectives except pure roleplay to hold all Caldari systems. Since defensive plexes always give out less LP than offensive plexes, having no systems where offensive plexes spawn means that LP gains are significantly gimped even at Tier 5. Other than a high Tier generally being good for faction morale and station lockouts, there's no tactical advantage to holding all systems.
The theoretical best practice for FW would be to hold the absolute minimum number of systems required to maintain Tier 5, while allowing the enemy to hold carefully selected systems, none of which have stations in them. That way, you have the maximum possible spawn rate of offensive plexes you can get under Tier 5, and the enemy still can't dock anywhere in FW space. At certain points you allow the enemy to unspin the systems so you don't accidentally render them vulnerable (and I want to take a moment to point out how ridiculous it is that defeating enemy resistance could be considered a tactical disadvantage), while spinning down your own systems (any heavily-contested systems will still give reasonable LP payouts). Mane 614
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
810
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:36:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:I mean, I'm sure someone's pointed this out, but it's actually disadvantageous from all perspectives except pure roleplay to hold all Caldari systems. Since defensive plexes always give out less LP than offensive plexes, having no systems where offensive plexes spawn means that LP gains are significantly gimped even at Tier 5. Other than a high Tier generally being good for faction morale and station lockouts, there's no tactical advantage to holding all systems.
The theoretical best practice for FW would be to hold the absolute minimum number of systems required to maintain Tier 5, while allowing the enemy to hold carefully selected systems, none of which have stations in them. That way, you have the maximum possible spawn rate of offensive plexes you can get under Tier 5, and the enemy still can't dock anywhere in FW space. At certain points you allow the enemy to unspin the systems so you don't accidentally render them vulnerable (and I want to take a moment to point out how ridiculous it is that defeating enemy resistance could be considered a tactical disadvantage), while spinning down your own systems (any heavily-contested systems will still give reasonable LP payouts).
You guys could have your alts flop a few no station systems that are several jumps away from any systems caldari can dock in. That way you could continue to farm. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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