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NightmareX
Rebirth.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:14:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Kno Smo wrote:You guys know, that XP will not be aupported anymore? It will not get any security updates at all?
It's funny, when ppl complain about a simple change in the UI (the start screen works like the start button in Win7 but has more features)... but to go back to that old stupid system instead of Windows 7... seems to be a grandpa who can't adapt to anything new, lol :D This "stupid" old system is most succesful stable and best microsoft os system in thier entire history, i know people need adapt to new things, but come on XP was awesome and meny players still use it, exept new generation whith focusend on consumption and people who spent a lot money every month to get new brand cell phone with new icon on better lcd scren, or just to get 2fps more.
This is not about just getting 2 fps more in games. This is about an OS (Windows 8) that is the most secured operation system in the world. And it's about an operation system that supports xx amount of cores.
There is so many things with the new Windows 8 operation system that takes advantages over the new hardware out in the market today.
Do you see Windows XP use SSD in the most optimal way?
Do you see that the Windows XP supports 4 cores or more fully out?
Do you see Windows XP to just restart a driver if a driver crash without crashing the whole computer with a blue screen rather than just restart the driver on the fly like Windows 7 and Windows 8 does?
Do you see how slow Windows XP is compared to Windows 8?
Do you see how much lesser secure a 12 years old operation system is over an operation system that is from 2012?
I bought the Samsung 9-series NP900X4C-A01SE laptop with Windows 7. Because of that, i took the advantage to buy Windows 8 Pro legally for the whole 22 dollars.
And, who really needs the start menu nowdays?
If you quicly want to restart your Windows 8 OS, then just press ALT + F4. If you want to use the Run command, then just press Windows button + R.
When you have used Windows 8 for some days, you will finally realize why on earth you wouldn't be using Windows 8 from the start.
I REALLY loved Windows 7. But after using Windows 8 for some months now, i wont miss Windows 7 at all.
EDIT: When it comes to running Windows 8 on normal computers, then it might be a bit different from running Windows 8 on a laptop. My current EVE videos.
Rebirth 4: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131123
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:17:00 -
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Klyde
Big Diggers
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:23:00 -
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No one supports Winxp anymore, your new system will not have drivers for the hardware to work so you will still have a broken computer, you will not even be able to finish set up because set up will not see your hardware.
Win8 takes a bit of getting used to but once you figure out how it works it is a better system, you can also get programs to give it the old feeling if your like me and can not stand the build in mail features. It boots into windows in seconds, shuts down in seconds, it loads everything almost instantly, it is so much faster.
I think you just need to give Win8 a solid try, btw,to get eve working on win8 i had to update all the drivers and make sure i had flash installed, running multiple accounts of eve is not an issue and is a lot smoother then win xp ever was at this. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
827
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:24:00 -
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Windows 9, 2013 btw.
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
880
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:40:00 -
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Hans Hoff wrote: I own a copy of windows XP and after windows 8 I will be F****ked if I give Bill Gates one more cent.
Too late, you did that when you purchased a new computer.
p.s. hope you didn't purchase more than 4 gigs of ram because XP will not read any more than that. |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
40
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:01:00 -
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With a simple registry edit you can completly disable the Metro UI. Leaving you with what is for all intents and purposes Windows 7
google it. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
113
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:25:00 -
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at bootup, spamming F10 in post will bring up BIOS. find boot priority, then set it to cd-rom for the XP disc.
problem:
windows 8 manages multiple core CPUs the best... Windows 7 has some of the same features as 8, but only as a result of back-porting windows 8 CPU management into windows 7. if you take a new processor and stick windows XP on it, you risk under-utilizing your CPU cores, if at all.
it's not a simple mult-core issue, either. Windows 8 is the first windows OS to recognize the paired nature of some CPUs. these CPUs have multiple cores that need to be managed a certain way, in pairs. instead of cores 1-8, they're paired 1+2, 3+4, 5+6, 7+8.
this is the case with my computer and CPU. Windows 7 was sketchy, Windows 8 is great... XP would not work at all.
I don't like what they've done with the windows key, but i deal with it
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Hans Hoff wrote: I own a copy of windows XP and after windows 8 I will be F****ked if I give Bill Gates one more cent.
Too late, you did that when you purchased a new computer. p.s. hope you didn't purchase more than 4 gigs of ram because XP will not read any more than that.
that, too. Windows 7 limited me to 8 Gigs. I obtained Win 8 pro through the microsoft alliance as a student (dreamspark), and now run 32 Gigs of RAM. Want To Adopt: any 2003 children to work as passive income minor alts in the PLEX trade.. |
Calico-Jack Daniels
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:46:00 -
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Hans Hoff wrote:Hi Guys. I just bought a new comp with widows 8 on it. This may be great for people who are into touch screen monitors and Ti Chi but it's not for me. I put in my tried and true XP disk but I cant get the boot to get it running. EvE attracts people of over average intelligence therefore I posted on here because I'm sure that one of you guys will be able to give me the information I need to ditch the chit and get back to XP. Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions. Regards Dave
1. Put XP in the dvd/cd-rom drive 2. reboot your computer 3. after reboot, press your boot options key (typically F12) 4. When the new screen appears, choose DVD/CD-rom drive for boot device (if you have more than one, make sure you choose the correct one with the XP disc in the drive) 5. Unless Windows 8 changed the access to boot device for security, which i thought I might have read but not sure, you should see the blue Windows XP partition screen. 6. delete the partitions, to start from scratch, create a new partition, or partitions if you need more than 1 7. Format the drive for NTFS (do not choose quick) 8. Accept the license agreement 9. follow the on-screen prompts to click next and magic happens 10. Activate and Update your new install 11. Add AV, and other security software ( I recommend CCleaner, Malwarebytes, and Spybot S&D in addition to your normal Antivirus software of choice. Hijack This is a good option too)
it is very important though to understand that a fully patched Windows XP SP3 installation is still vulnerable AND Microsoft has stopped support/is stopping support. That means no more security updates if another vulnerability is found.
Windows 7 is a good OS, and this coming from someone who loves Linux. I'm not a fan of Windows 8 either. I go well with Coca Cola... |
mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
88
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:48:00 -
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Lets just put it this way. Ignoring piracy the debate is quite simple:
Windows 8 is not worth the hundreds of dollars you have to spend on it if you already have windows 7. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
NightmareX
Rebirth.
106
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Posted - 2013.01.16 20:25:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:With a simple registry edit you can completly disable the Metro UI. Leaving you with what is for all intents and purposes Windows 7
Steps To Disable Metro UI in Windows 8
1. First, press the Start + R buttons, to open the Run menu.
2. In the Run window, type GÇ£regeditGÇ¥ and hit Enter.
3. Now scroll on the top of the list and double click on GÇ£HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINEGÇ¥. This will expand the folder.
4. Do the same for GÇ£SOFTWARE GÇ£.
5. In the list, search for GÇ£MicrosoftGÇ¥ and open it.
6. Now using the same procedure, navigate to Windows->CurrentVersion->Explorer and some registry entries will appear in the right side of the screen.
7. Click on the one called GǣRPenabledGǥ and change its value from Gǣ1GǦ to Gǣ0GǦ.
I couldn't find the string 'RPenabled' there on my Windows 8 Pro version on my laptop.
mama guru wrote:Lets just put it this way. Ignoring piracy the debate is quite simple:
Windows 8 is not worth the hundreds of dollars you have to spend on it if you already have windows 7. But spending 22 dollar from the 'Windows Upgrade Offer' you get when you have bought a laptop within a timeframe is absolutely worth it.
Not sure if that timeframe is over yet. My current EVE videos.
Rebirth 4: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131123
Bringers of Hatred: http://tinyurl.com/BOHINFOD |
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NightmareX
Rebirth.
106
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Posted - 2013.01.16 20:27:00 -
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Ops, double post. My current EVE videos.
Rebirth 4: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131123
Bringers of Hatred: http://tinyurl.com/BOHINFOD |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
45
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:25:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Alex Grison wrote:With a simple registry edit you can completly disable the Metro UI. Leaving you with what is for all intents and purposes Windows 7
Steps To Disable Metro UI in Windows 8
1. First, press the Start + R buttons, to open the Run menu.
2. In the Run window, type GÇ£regeditGÇ¥ and hit Enter.
3. Now scroll on the top of the list and double click on GÇ£HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINEGÇ¥. This will expand the folder.
4. Do the same for GÇ£SOFTWARE GÇ£.
5. In the list, search for GÇ£MicrosoftGÇ¥ and open it.
6. Now using the same procedure, navigate to Windows->CurrentVersion->Explorer and some registry entries will appear in the right side of the screen.
7. Click on the one called GǣRPenabledGǥ and change its value from Gǣ1GǦ to Gǣ0GǦ. I couldn't find the string 'RPenabled' there on my Windows 8 Pro version on my laptop. mama guru wrote:Lets just put it this way. Ignoring piracy the debate is quite simple:
Windows 8 is not worth the hundreds of dollars you have to spend on it if you already have windows 7. But spending 22 dollar from the 'Windows Upgrade Offer' you get when you have bought a laptop within a timeframe is absolutely worth it. Not sure if that timeframe is over yet.
string not found?
put a bullet in your computer |
NightmareX
Rebirth.
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:30:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:string not found?
put a bullet in your computer
Not gonna happen, EVER, because those instructions you gave are for the Windows 8 Developer preview, are you running the Official release of Windows 8 ? My current EVE videos.
Rebirth 4: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131123
Bringers of Hatred: http://tinyurl.com/BOHINFOD |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
45
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:35:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Alex Grison wrote:string not found?
put a bullet in your computer Not gonna happen, EVER, because those instructions you gave are for the Windows 8 Developer preview, are you running the Official release of Windows 8 ?
nah, I run Holes-In-The-Wall 7 |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1065
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:52:00 -
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It's possible to bypass the start screen, by adding a scheduled task top open something, at log on. Or by buying the star dock start menu replacement (4.95, iirc)
doesn't bother me. I just moved the desktop to the first and hit enter when the start screen opens. Or click on firefox as it's what I normally want to start. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
113
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:38:00 -
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in some ways, the windows 8 interface is better. to find a program, press the windows key and start typing the name of the program... calc for calculator, chrome, eve... in this aspect, it's faster than the traditional start bar...
Steve Ronuken wrote:It's possible to bypass the start screen, by adding a scheduled task top open something, at log on. Or by buying the star dock start menu replacement (4.95, iirc)
doesn't bother me. I just moved the desktop to the first and hit enter when the start screen opens. Or click on firefox as it's what I normally want to start.
I have windows 8 boot straight to desktop. if my computer crashes in the middle of the night and reboots, i'd never know it Want To Adopt: any 2003 children to work as passive income minor alts in the PLEX trade.. |
Rain Bow Dash
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:21:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Um, are you actually advising he take his HDD out and perform the Windows installation on another computer before removing it and plugging it back into his machine?
Unless they have an identical motherboard, this will NOT work.
That is totally false. Highly recommend you look up what sysprep is. Change the way you see Eve Forums: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8962 Include BBCode support! [img]http://www.vikari.net/files/banner.jpg[/img]
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1600
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:39:00 -
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Windows 7 is probably the best OS from Microsoft in recent years; much better than Vista, and comparable to XP with some decent benefits and only a few downfalls. Windows 8 is garbage for anyone interested in a real PC experience. It was designed for tablets; it should be used on tablets. Phasing out Windows 7 is a mistake.
I will never 'upgrade' to Windows 8 if I can avoid it, and as long as I have a working copy of Windows 7 I can.. hopefully. I might look at what Microsoft has next, following Windows 8, but my brief experience with that piece of software was enough. I have an iPhone that has roughly the same capabilities and usability.
Possibly more..
The only positive thing I discerned about Windows 8, (aside from it being a good way for Microsoft to get into the Tablet market), is that it would be a great way to turn your PC into a console if you wanted that sort of thing. The up front interface, (Start Page'), is not really any worse than you'd find on a PS3 or XBox, and only marginally less appealing than what you'd find on a PS3.
Aside from that, it basically just loads Store, cloud backup if you get it, and has a place where you can shortcut and launch apps, software, and games from. That's about it. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1600
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:46:00 -
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Rain Bow Dash wrote:Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Um, are you actually advising he take his HDD out and perform the Windows installation on another computer before removing it and plugging it back into his machine?
Unless they have an identical motherboard, this will NOT work.
That is totally false. Highly recommend you look up what sysprep is.
Windows 7 and--I assume--Windows 8 can both migrate to a new PC with no more than a reactivation generally. I say generally, because depending on the stability of the OS install this might fail and it may become unrecoverable, but it's rather unlikely. Generally, the worst you'll experience is a master boot record failure which Win7 has every capability to repair on Startup.
There is the potential that you might have a RAID set up that is incompatible with the new system however, which might pose other problems. Typically though, all you have to do is plug in the drives in the right order and boot up the system, make sure your RAID is set up properly and go from there. Simple reactivation and you're done.
iirc.. can't remember everything all the time. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
541
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:35:00 -
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EVE runs on Linux, try Ubuntu, the friendliest distro.
You can even try Ubuntu before you install it with WUBI Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
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Reiisha
Evolution The Retirement Club
204
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:05:00 -
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Hans Hoff wrote:So that people who like to GUESS solutions from their previous experiences on earlier operating systems I will provide further information. When pressing F8 the boot the system only allows entrance into some options. What it does not appear to do is give a boot option from CD ROM. As people familiar with formatting and installing windows would know. this is axiomatic.. No offence intended to posters since the reply to my previous post. Thanks all . Stung for a computer with an OS that I wouldn't force on my worst enemy. Attitude really really P'd. Might need to take it to a comp shop.
Odd that no one has mentioned this, but you might be stuck with a SecureBoot thing from your motherboard. Win8 is the ONLY thing you can install and use on that PC.
UEFI is pretty good, but the secureboot thing is kinda too out there...
That is, if your new PC came with Win8 on it and you got it in the last few months. Which i assume to be the case. |
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