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McBane
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:16:00 -
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Ok, prolly a bit of a touchy one this, but IÆm interested to know the general opinion on this subject.
IÆm against Alts in Eve and think they should be removed û despite using them myself û because I think they take away from the game more than they bring to it.
Without going into detail, the following are the key general reasons why I think Alts should be removedà
- They remove character accountability.
- They provide a way for a character to circumvent in game rules and mechanisms.
- They remove risk from a character.
Basically, I view Alts as one big Eve exploit.
As far as I am aware the only reason CCP made Alts part of Eve was for the purpose of corp espionage. While this is a valid use I think that there could be many other ways of introducing corp espionage without introducing all the problems Alts bring to Eve.
Before voting, please assume that If Alts were removed, CCP would provide some form of compensation to those whom have highly skilled Alts û for example, transferring them to a new account with 1 month free per 1mil SP.
I am also aware of issues such as trial and second accounts, but these issues are far from the level of Alts as there is already restrictions / money involved which reduce the extent of the Alt like uses for them.
So, remove Alts from Eve? Yay or Nay?
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:20:00 -
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I vote no, if alts had never been added I think it would be better but now they are here and a few people do use them legitamtly, and many peple can't afford a second account.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:23:00 -
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Guess it is that time of the month again when someone has to bring this up again.
Having alts allow people to try different aspects of EVE, so they are not completely retricted to one way of life. It also allows specialized characters, IE PVPer, Builder, Researcher, Hauler.
Dumb idea to remove alts, would result in people quitting the game and completely unneeded. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
McBane
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids Guess it is that time of the month again when someone has to bring this up again.
Having alts allow people to try different aspects of EVE, so they are not completely retricted to one way of life. It also allows specialized characters, IE PVPer, Builder, Researcher, Hauler.
Dumb idea to remove alts, would result in people quitting the game and completely unneeded.
Nay would have done
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:40:00 -
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No
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:48:00 -
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Quote: VOTE: Remove Alts from Eve? Yay or Nay?
Nay.
I have quite a few uses for alts and they do not involve ganking or whatever it is that might upset the crybabies.
I'm not alone either.
Mai's Idealog |
Dark Silver
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:52:00 -
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Don't forget that having an alt allows you to train to a certain ammount of SP points on a character so that you don't get into the really expensive clone areas, and focus on having different accounts good at doing different things (boy what i would give to take all my SP and split them amongst multiple alts :))
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MooKids
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Posted - 2005.06.27 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: McBane
Nay would have done
Don't expect to post an argument without a counter-arguement. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Jana Cova
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Posted - 2005.06.27 01:00:00 -
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ffs
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Alt Citizen13
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Posted - 2005.06.27 01:38:00 -
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NOOOO dont kill meeeeee!!!!!!!11
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.06.27 01:47:00 -
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Yayzored. ----------------
Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |
Hot Temper
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Posted - 2005.06.27 01:52:00 -
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You would have me die?
You meanie
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Thousand Fluffles
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:08:00 -
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Please. We are human too. We live, and love, and breathe just like you.
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Snaps
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:19:00 -
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you mean alts or alt accounts.
whats the diffrents, realy?
if we all droped are alt accounts eve would go broke real soon. out of the 60 thousand paid accounts 20 grand worth of them i bet are alt acounts easy.
this is why players think eve is getting a lot of new players that i bet its not.
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SPIONKOP
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:21:00 -
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no ffs
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Chith
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:23:00 -
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More than any other MMO I've seen, Eve already binds a significant amount of permanency to main chars. I hereby deem you a malcontent. --- The Tarsis Shriners |
Eirelynn
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:24:00 -
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Hey, I have a better idea. Lets kill all the mains instead.
Anyway, what about ppl who used to pay for two accounts, then paid $10 (or whatever the fee is) to transfer a trained char to a single account? For example, I have a carebear industrialist to support my pvp character.
What happens then if alts are removed? Do I just lose a 8 mil sp char just cause my 'main' has 10 mil sp?
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Khargos on 27/06/2005 02:29:35 NO, STOP POSTING THIS.
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Balklanac
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:29:00 -
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I am not for killing alts. But I am for alts being declared...in character bio.Basically all chars per account being visible when you click on one characters bio.That way alts remain but you cant pull any Willy Wonka **** like bankrupting an enemy corp or spy without consequence to your main.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:40:00 -
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On the one hand alts that you just make to have different characters are fine, but I don't like people who commit crimes with one character and reap the benefits with another that can't be held responsible. That's just idiotic.
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Eirelynn
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Balklanac I am not for killing alts. But I am for alts being declared...in character bio.Basically all chars per account being visible when you click on one characters bio.That way alts remain but you cant pull any Willy Wonka **** like bankrupting an enemy corp or spy without consequence to your main.
Hey, I like Willy Wonka.
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cylynex I vote for stop posting the same stupid threads over and over again. If you don't know what these are, sign up any of my exciting courses, just send me 100 Mil ISK and I'lll enroll you:
101 - Alts and their Non-Impact on Society 102 - Jet Can Mining, Ore Thieves and You 103 - I WAS PK'D (And nobody cares) 104 - THE EVIL BOOKMARKS. How even the complainers use em. 105 - Eternal Newb 106 - Insincere "Thank you CCP" Threads - The real story. 107 - Level 4 Missions and Economics 108 - OMG BOOKMARKS AGAIN. 109 - Dumb Polls that like 5 People reply to not counting the 5 or so that make fun of the poll.
Signed.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:15:00 -
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Nay! I personally dont have any use of alts (2 accounts) but its silly idea at this point, imho. Some people have 15+ mil SP on 2 characters, so which one is alt there? --
2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Herko Kerghans
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff Edited by: Gamer4liff on 27/06/2005 03:05:47 Edited by: Gamer4liff on 27/06/2005 03:05:07
Originally by: Cylynex I vote for stop posting the same stupid threads over and over again. If you don't know what these are, sign up any of my exciting courses, just send me 100 Mil ISK and I'lll enroll you:
101 - Alts and their Non-Impact on Society 102 - Jet Can Mining, Ore Thieves and You 103 - I WAS PK'D (And nobody cares) 104 - THE EVIL BOOKMARKS. How even the complainers use em. 105 - Eternal Newb 106 - Insincere "Thank you CCP" Threads - The real story. 107 - Level 4 Missions and Economics 108 - OMG BOOKMARKS AGAIN. 109 - Dumb Polls that like 5 People reply to not counting the 5 or so that make fun of the poll.
Oh and lets not forget
110 - why carebears are whimps!!! 111 - why are the mean people greifing us :( 112 - THIS WELL USED GAME FEATURE IS AN EXPLOT ZOMG! 113 - Carebears sux lol 114 - why my corp > your corp 115 - how yuo rich ppl get so rich!!11 116 - why people are going to leave eve because of the next patch!111 117 - goodbye all (nobody cares) 118 - eve is unfair for me, please nerf the people doing better than me :(
Sheessh...
As usuall... no luv for research...
119 - The Research Lottery from Hell 120 - Own up! Who's hoarding all the t2 BPOs?
- - Two tales: Silver Burning |
Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Herko Kerghans
Originally by: Gamer4liff Edited by: Gamer4liff on 27/06/2005 03:05:47 Edited by: Gamer4liff on 27/06/2005 03:05:07
Originally by: Cylynex I vote for stop posting the same stupid threads over and over again. If you don't know what these are, sign up any of my exciting courses, just send me 100 Mil ISK and I'lll enroll you:
101 - Alts and their Non-Impact on Society 102 - Jet Can Mining, Ore Thieves and You 103 - I WAS PK'D (And nobody cares) 104 - THE EVIL BOOKMARKS. How even the complainers use em. 105 - Eternal Newb 106 - Insincere "Thank you CCP" Threads - The real story. 107 - Level 4 Missions and Economics 108 - OMG BOOKMARKS AGAIN. 109 - Dumb Polls that like 5 People reply to not counting the 5 or so that make fun of the poll.
Oh and lets not forget
110 - why carebears are whimps!!! 111 - why are the mean people greifing us :( 112 - THIS WELL USED GAME FEATURE IS AN EXPLOT ZOMG! 113 - Carebears sux lol 114 - why my corp > your corp 115 - how yuo rich ppl get so rich!!11 116 - why people are going to leave eve because of the next patch!111 117 - goodbye all (nobody cares) 118 - eve is unfair for me, please nerf the people doing better than me :(
Sheessh...
As usuall... no luv for research...
119 - The Research Lottery from Hell 120 - Own up! Who's hoarding all the t2 BPOs?
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Oh god how could i forget! I must be getting old.
.. on a related note 260K RP and no BPO
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DARTHEXIDOUS
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:37:00 -
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NAY.
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:38:00 -
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I'd love to see alts gone. I have alts and use them for some stuff that I wouldn't risk my main for, but I'd be happy to get rid of them if they took them out of the game. Perhaps they could transfer half the alt's skill points to the main character so all the training time wouldn't be wasted to compensate people for the loss of their characters.
It seems like the main reason to have alts is to avoid consequences. Alts doing suicide ganks in high sec, alts doing corp thefts, alts doing scams, the list goes on and on.
Sure, some people make hauler or industrial alts, but you could add those skills to your main and all you'd lose would be the basic skill points you got when you created your alt.
I think alts take more away from the game than they add.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:40:00 -
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get yer grubby hands of my alt. -------------
The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. |
Dane
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Posted - 2005.06.27 04:17:00 -
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Sounds like a lot of alt paranoia out there...
Nay. |
Hi'Ryan Greetos
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Posted - 2005.06.27 07:31:00 -
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Because I am living person too and I can say things I could not dare to say. Don't hate me please.
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