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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:39:00 -
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I wrote a blog post about the summit, here: http://twostep4csm.blogspot.com/2013/01/i-am-small-portion-of-community.html
If you want CCP to work on the POS system, either by improving the current one or by starting work on the long awaited Modular POS system, post here. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Klarion Sythis
Bite Me inc Bitten.
86
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:45:00 -
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Marc Scaurus
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:48:00 -
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Perhaps it could be that current active POS managers are only a small portion of the community because POSes are so bad right now. I once lived in a wormhole and it was a great way to make ISK. The reason I left? Managing the POS that was our supposed home, but felt more like a lean to or something Bear Grylls would make whilst swilling his own ****.
In short, if the POS management community is small, it's only through the continuing failure by CCP to grow it through (at the least) an accessible management system. |
Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:51:00 -
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I'm not involved with sov, but use poses all the time.
I do not exist. |
Zelle MacLeod
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:52:00 -
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Sort the POS's out pl0x :D |
Abis Cann
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:52:00 -
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You have my sword. |
Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:52:00 -
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I would be happy with more security features, however it's one of the only things remaining in it's almost original incarnation and should be given a look at.....
that or give wormholers stations, idc which just make storing my stuff not a risk to me unless someone burns down my wormhole. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
162
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:53:00 -
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And my Bow. Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Aid Bringer
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:53:00 -
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And my strategic cru... I mean nerf gun. |
Alexsis Solette
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:54:00 -
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And my Axe. |
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ash veratis
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:56:00 -
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the notion that poses only affect a small portion of the eve population is ludicrous at best.
If it's even remotely true, then it's only happened because the existing POS system is the most broken piece of EVE.
If CCP wants people to become smaller groups living in null, then a revamped POS system that doesn't require us to trust every single POS resident is a REQUIREMENT, not a nice to have.
CCP. The broken pos system affects *every* *single* *one* of the members of Hard Knocks Inc.
Fix it. |
Red Bug
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 03:58:00 -
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POS FIX or GTFO |
ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:00:00 -
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they'll make it shite like everything else but posting anyway |
Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:00:00 -
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WHAT!?!?!? |
Xila Wisemaster
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:05:00 -
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As a person who has used pos' for both production, research and to live out of. I think that the interface, access level and even pos modules could use a rethink to revitalize the game much like the rest of eve has gotten in the past few years. |
Jess Tanner
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:06:00 -
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Didn't take long for this to devolve into youtube links and LotR references....
Still, CCP needs to give us something FFS.
Also, http://media.fukung.net/images/30056/cd51ced55868c3248d47a7d3fe06bfe2.jpg |
Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
290
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:08:00 -
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Would love the modular POS's that were originally promised. Wormholes have been mroe or less ignored for quite a while, and POS's effect WAY more than a "small percentage". IMO you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who isnt a PvE mission runner who ISNT effected by POS's in some significant way. |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
532
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:10:00 -
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I strongly disagree with the abandonment of the modular POS system, and support this thread in its entirety.
It's been said by CCP that the development of the modular POS system would only help a few people; POSs impact daily life for thousands of players (to use CCP Seagull's terminology, the 'instigators' and 'enablers', especially the latter, have to deal with them all the time), and it's one of the most ancient and diseased features of EVE. I also think properly reimplemented, they can be an amazing source for the player interaction that CCP says it's striving for.
It's also been said that it would be too much effort, and I respectfully disagree here as well. I think that you can spread the work out over a long period of time and develop it alongside other features. To quote my suggestion in the minutes blog thread:
Quote:Here's what I'll suggest: let's break things down into meaningful chunks, and make it an 18/24 month project. Build the new POS system slowly as a 'farms and fields' conflict driver in all levels of space; eg, you anchor the new towers at certain beacons/exploration sites to seize control of them and provide resources/abilities, and keep the old system roughly the same until the new system is full featured enough to feasibly replace it.
Start out doing something simple for summer 2013 (small POSs anchored directly attached to comets, mining for moongoo - no guns or anything too complex, think something like a POCO), but expand iteratively from there over time to new areas while working on reimplementing POS functionality alongside this. Maybe you add med towers, reactors, guns, corp storage, and mooring in winter 2013; maybe large towers, industry, labs, reprocessing, market, contracts, and moon anchoring in summer 2014; and maybe the full system can be replaced by winter 2014 with full docking/captains quarters, forcefields, etc. I think this is in line with what CCP Unifex posted in his blog. I think the biggest argument that I have to make here is that this isn't going away. If you don't do this NOW and just kick the can down the road, in two years or five years or ten years the utter misery of the POS system is going to be dragging EVE down. Hell, it already is.
-Chaos |
Kniht
Inter Arma Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:12:00 -
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Towers need major love soon. |
MyrddinBishop
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:12:00 -
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Pleas CCP. POSes need some sort of revamp. Either addressing the current system or a good hard look at the new modular POSes. |
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Jacabon Mere
Capital Storm. WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:13:00 -
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Fix pos's already dammit. Capital Storm is recruiting Aussies for Nullsec pvp and money making. Join "Capital Storm Pub" channel ingame. www.capitalstorm.net |
Sklaer
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:14:00 -
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amidoinitrite |
Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:15:00 -
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Identity, ownership, community - the 3 biggest reasons I play this MMO
Overhauling the POS system increases my ability to have ownership What is the point if every race has an Jam/Damp/Disruptor/ ship etc? Not every race has to be a fluffy little mirror of each other, it's seriously not needed. Things like Gallente having the only drone BS and Caldari having the only ECM BS are incredibly cool distinctions that only add to EVE in both game play value and flavour. |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:16:00 -
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Pretty much the entire CSM agrees that POSes have to be replaced in the mid- to long-term, and in the meantime, something has to be done to reduce the pain induced by current POSes.
I for one will be working hard to encourage CCP, during the planning process that they have just started, to choose a theme that naturally includes work on POSes. The unprecedented access we are getting during this process gives us the opportunity to make the case.
Our second Skype meeting about this is on Friday. Wish us luck. The Sarcasm is Strong with Me GÇó Member of CSM 5-7 GÇó Blog |
T'ango A'lee
Inquisition FiS Division Surely You're Joking
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:18:00 -
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Good golly Miss CCP.
The # of POSes in High Sec. Low Sec Null Worm Hole
EVERY TIME I PUSH DSCAN I SEE A POS.
Please Fix POSes Soon. Very damn soon! |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:19:00 -
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Fix POS's please.
Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
andy Achasse
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:20:00 -
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I support a POS revamp. |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:20:00 -
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Any sov nullsec resident interact with POS often, be it only by using a jump bridge, warping to a forcefield, or of course fighting over one.
My corp have at least 1/4 of the players (RL players not characters) having a need to manage a POS, be it for fueling, reacting, inventing or manufacturing things on them. And I'm sure some others do it on high sec alts.
I'm not even talking about WH residents...
I don't get how you can consider that to be a small portion of the community.
And even if you still do, you can see it another way : the guys who manage POS, using them to create ships for us, resources so we can fight, taking time to fuel them and so can be considered often as either enablers or instigators. You said on these Minutes that these types of guys needed to be better treated... so don't say after that making their life easier is not worth of a high priorities.
And if you really can't for now, a few fixes on POS are really the minimum. There are lots of things for that, like making that we loss less time moving from module to another to do things inside forcefield, or having less issues with stuff for example. |
Victoria Anninen
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:21:00 -
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andy Achasse wrote:I support a POS revamp.
motion seconded. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1262
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:21:00 -
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POSs are used extensively in highsec, lowsec, nullsec and WH space. Apparently the people who live in those regions of space are a minor part of the EVE community...
POSs are a, possibly the, major infrastructure item on EVE and the need fixing urgently. |
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