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Jim Womack
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:00:00 -
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I haven't taken the time yet to read through all of the post yet and am sure anything that I could suggest has already been..
I just want to quickly add my name to the list that something should be done to address the current pos system. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
789
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:01:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote:Plex for POS drive anyone?
The opposite is more viable. You can attack the subs. I already have a plan to do it actually. Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Cabal Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
Jr Instructorcon
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
93
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:02:00 -
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My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile. |
Daenna Chrysi
Omega Foundry Unit Shadows Of Betrayal
31
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:02:00 -
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There is this graphic in one of the dev blogs, just realized it kinda explains the thing well.
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74191 |
Shasz
Angels of Anarchy AL3XAND3R.
27
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:02:00 -
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POSting for great POS justice.
+1 for the overhaul
I want to want to run a POS again...
I want it to put it wherever I want in space, not just on a moon.
Start small, but start modular and leave room to expand. Don't replace existing POSs with the modular until modular code is robust enough to replace everything current POSs do.
Put a team on it... you can do it! |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
258
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:03:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Two step wrote:
Again, I'd like to remind folks that are actually reading this thread to keep things civil and constructive. Going all nutso will only hurt the chances of getting CCP to work on POSes.
While I agree with this to some point, however how long should the playerbase play nice? This has been discussed and almost unanimously support from the playerbase for years, yet it has remained a elephant in the room. While many would not wish to resort to rage, it seems to be the only effective measure to get CCP support, as history would show. Development on this should have started shortly after Apocrapha, especially with the explosion of POS use when wormholes where released. Yet it does not seem that CCP even cares or has even started working on it.
CCP should feel like we're simply voicing our support for a feature we deeply care about, not that we're a riotous crowd trying to ransom them into developing a feature we care about. Thus, being rude or mean is not the way to go. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
298
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:03:00 -
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I was reassured by the fact that ccp WILL take a look at POSes.
But please, for the love of ponies, don't just "fix" things, rewamp them entierly.
The POS system is already impacting a lot of people, a lot more than only people using it. But more important, a rewamp of the POS system would allow players to use it in multiple and more interesting ways ! I was very pleased to see CCP view on this, a few months ago : more accessible POSes, more versatile, more mobile even !
Players of all kinds are dreaming of having a bit of space to call "home". I'm not talking about sovereignty or wormholes, I'm talking about single players, or small groups / corps. If you devs achieve to make small POSes work more like tents than towers, then this would be a huge argument to bring new players, attract non-POSes owners and raise the fun !
And I'm affraid but it doesn't seem fesible to do such things bit-by-bit in multiple expansions, (aka "not at once").
G££ <= Me |
Major Spag
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:03:00 -
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I support POS revamping.
I don't support the absolutely appalling way CCCP (hurrr) is conducting itself in the face of its customers lately. Should I bother quoting from your OWN PEOPLE who promised to actually listen to the players???? Oh wait, sorry. Not actually listening to your player-base is "working as intended". |
Dunkler Imperator
N.F.H.P. SQUEE.
25
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:03:00 -
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there was a dev blog post about enablers and instigators. the summery of the blog was that ccp was going to help both out to make the game better for everyone.
well i got knews for ccp enablers = logistics = pos managment = living hell
logistics is one the largest sources of burnout in eve. Fixing roles and security issues would allow a large amount of the work that goes into these things to be distributed to others and lessen to load on our already overburden logistics pilots.
Pos's effect every single one of our pilots in SQUEE. and i can guarantee that it's the same for every moon holding,0.0,wh or low sec alliance.
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Dr Leon SpicyWiener
E.M.P. Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:04:00 -
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Jr Instructorcon wrote:My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile.
See CCP... this isnt emergent game play its just sad |
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Morgana Noven
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:04:00 -
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Jr Instructorcon wrote:My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile.
We also support multiboxing deployment of towers using supers. |
Jim Parsons
EVE University Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:04:00 -
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POSes affect me, my members, and even some of the applicants I see and interview. They are MUCH more than just a shield to warp to (although the E-UNI one has been in "war" mode since I joined), and not having them be as important as docking stations, planets, ships, wormholes and jump gates hurts the credibility of EVE Online as a truly realistic and awesome space MMORPG. |
Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:04:00 -
[1483] - Quote
Jr Instructorcon wrote:My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile.
ok, unless I'm misreading that, that sounds like more than a "small portion" :P Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Mel Anin
the mittani sends his regards
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:04:00 -
[1484] - Quote
I too support POS fixing. |
IrJosy
Club 1621 Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:05:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Sir SmashAlot wrote:Plex for POS drive anyone?
The opposite is more viable. You can attack the subs. I already have a plan to do it actually.
But...You would need some sort of group of super rich mega lords to have even the slightest effect on the PLEX market...
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drewex
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:06:00 -
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Posting in hope of a brighter future with better pos systems |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1006
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:06:00 -
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Quote:N.B. The feature areas listed above are examples, exact details of what will be in the various releases will come at a later date.
The graphic was just a picture of an example of a plan, not the plan.
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Vayna Miychovich
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:07:00 -
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mynnna wrote:CCP should feel like we're simply voicing our support for a feature we deeply care about, not that we're a riotous crowd trying to ransom them into developing a feature we care about. Thus, being rude or mean is not the way to go.
Logging in 'cause we care. |
Arianna HurfBlurfington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:07:00 -
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Joining in on POS Threadnaught.
Up with POS (fixes)
Down with CCP!!! |
Air Cloud
Caldari Accounting Co.
3
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:07:00 -
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POSes are crucial to this game in aa lot of ways, like: production of t2 elements, capitals, living in wormholes and nullsec, and even just satisfaction of having your own base in high sec. So fix them :) |
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CCP Seagull
C C P C C P Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:07:00 -
[1491] - Quote
Both me and CCP Unifex are following this discussion, and will respond when we've had a chance to catch up on all of it and can address and clarify some things properly. Please see CCP Gargant's post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2475724#post2475724 Senior Producer, EVE Online Development CCP Games Reykjavik |
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Zann Mei
Fatal Ascension
39
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:07:00 -
[1492] - Quote
Hey CCP, are you sure this is your "small part" of the community? |
Spudzeebee
Gigaverse The Imperial Senate
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:08:00 -
[1493] - Quote
As the owner of a wh-based alliance I can also echo the sentiments of so many of the people in this thread.
POS's are a necessity for us, and yet in almost every area of their initial setup, configuration or subsequent operation they are a source of irritation, soul-sucking tedium and hassle.
None of this is new. The gaping security holes have been known for some time. Whole threads have been devoted to the analysis of areas that need improvement and suggestions on how to fix them.
I don't particularly want some POS-based Jesus feature in 18 months. What I need is CCP to actually commit to doing something about this mess now, and in a timely manner.
I'd happily take immediate iteration on asset security for example even at the expense of some major revamp that might be many upgrade cycles away. We need improvement right now on so many areas that putting all of it off is simply a bad decision.
As for the rest of the wh-based stuff, Klokvarg (Post #85) summed it up for me most succinctly. Wormhole dwellers have had the ****** end of the stick now for far too long. Fixing POS's in some way would go a long way to improving the daily Eve experience for all of us.
Spud [ISEN Leader who would rather visit the dentist than deal with POS] |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
2872
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:09:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Two step wrote:
Again, I'd like to remind folks that are actually reading this thread to keep things civil and constructive. Going all nutso will only hurt the chances of getting CCP to work on POSes.
While I agree with this to some point, however how long should the playerbase play nice? This has been discussed and almost unanimously support from the playerbase for years, yet it has remained a elephant in the room. While many would not wish to resort to rage, it seems to be the only effective measure to get CCP support, as history would show. Development on this should have started shortly after Apocrapha, especially with the explosion of POS use when wormholes where released. Yet it does not seem that CCP even cares or has even started working on it.
Lets try playing nice until the planning process is done, to start with. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Kimon Shannon
Defiance LLC Fade 2 Black
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:10:00 -
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Please fix the POS system! |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
255
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:10:00 -
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WTF?
I'm starting out in POS business currently. Everything is planned and prepared. Most of the stuff required to run this for at least two years is lying ready to go in the trade hubs.
All I'm waiting for is to get the standnigs sorted out. This will be sometime in March.
I even subbed a new account to support my other industrial toons. Small portion of the community?
Get going CCP! Nobody requires you to deliver this in a fortnight. But please get going! Remove insurance. |
Eliniale
co-operative resource extraction
41
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:10:00 -
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About 3% of daily logons in here (there will be a few people who have posted more than once, but still this is a very big number.) System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1034
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:11:00 -
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Two step wrote:
Lets try playing nice until the planning process is done, to start with.
Well your no fun.
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Nair Alderau
EVE University Ivy League
51
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:12:00 -
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Good to hear.
I was always of the opinion that the POST-Incarna CCP was way better at listening to and communicating with the playerbase.
All we are emphasizing is that POSes are probably the area of the game almost the entire playerbase wants to be properly done.
Also think of the allure to newer players... Your own small POS somewhere in a bookmark/safespot in your highsec system... It's not just an older player thing. Most new players LOVE the idea of their own little thing. If it's cheap enough, they won't even ragequit when it gets destroyed after they've been wardecced. :p |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
261
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:12:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Two step wrote:
Lets try playing nice until the planning process is done, to start with.
Well your no fun. Perhaps. But he is right. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
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