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Tzic
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:12:00 -
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Jr Instructorcon wrote:My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile.
My drinking may or may not have increased exponentially since becoming more involved in logistics. |
Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
234
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:12:00 -
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Two step wrote: Lets try playing nice until the planning process is done, to start with.
Are we talking another 6 years here or? Like said before, enough playing nice, it's time to deliver and stop making excuses. If they've allowed themselves to fall into a situation where fixing this is too much work, they have only themselves to blame.
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Ruges
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:13:00 -
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I am sitting in a POS right now, so I say POS mechanics affect me. |
Blastil
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:14:00 -
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To me, if there is one thing that remains to be itterated, its POSES. Everything else is well running at the moment. It would be ABSOLUTE FOLLY to stop fixing the only remaining horrible mechanic in eve before moving on to add more Jesus features. |
Celly Smunt
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:15:00 -
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You my friend, have taken on a plate full and I wish you the best in your endeavors. :P
For myself, if I ever post something out of frustration that leads you or anyone else to think I don't care about the game, please understand that I get frustrated because I do care and sometimes can't convey that as well as I'd like to.
With that said
Thank you for working with us on these issues.
o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Lion Around
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:15:00 -
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I support a POS revamp.
At the very least, secure storage of individual items and ships should be a priority. "Corp thieves" have it really easy to take whatever they please the moment they gain access in a wh alliance. This isn't emergent gameplay, it's just a damned loophole in the game mechanics. "I'll put this 9 billion isk carrier in this hangar that ANYONE CAN ACCESS and trust that new guy we just recruited not to steal it."
GIVE US THE ABILITY TO SECURE ASSETS. This I believe is a priority for many alliances that rely on POSes for storage of important assets. That's my two cents. |
unimatrix0030
Viperfleet Inc. Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:16:00 -
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I agree pos need Fixing!
I use pos in w-space life, in my mining/missioning days and i am planning getting one for my trade alt(although, i realy am not looking forward to all that work). In my opinion at least half the enablers can become instigators if they just have the time for it. Less pos work helps them doing that.
Maybe we also can help CCP with this. We should , except signing this thread , also start to think of a expansion-theme where a POS revamp can be one of the centerpieces.
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Nair Alderau
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:16:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:Two step wrote: Lets try playing nice until the planning process is done, to start with.
Are we talking another 6 years here or? Like said before, enough playing nice, it's time to deliver and stop making excuses. If they've allowed themselves to fall into a situation where fixing this is too much work, they have only themselves to blame.
He means the planning process for the summer expansion, which is starting now and lasts a few weeks. Have you read Hans Jagerblitzen's "The (P.O.S.) Elephant in the Conference Room"? |
Benilopax
Solar Storm Insidious Empire
394
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:18:00 -
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CCP damage control is active.
But at least it's good damage control this time.
Keep in touch CCP! ... |
Jaylance
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:18:00 -
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Can I haz U stuffs?
Oh wait wrong post, Yea POS will affect me. |
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Phae Mure
OEG Academy Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:18:00 -
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+1 fix dat posez |
Jeb Hataska
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:18:00 -
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Just posting I have never been involved in POS management before, but am researching and trying to decide whether it would be worth it to set up a small POS on an OOC alt within the next few weeks. I'm considering T2 production. |
andrbr
Reconfiguration Nation Transmission Lost
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:18:00 -
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POS need Fix. |
BennyBoy Starhopper
Curry Fanatic Club Originally Riotous Corps
6
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:19:00 -
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OK - I am not usually one for CCP bashing at all - I usually avoid it like the plague.
However - CCP - one of your representatives lied to me face to face about this.
Roll on "Elite: Dangerous" |
Alli Othman
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
45
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:19:00 -
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At the same time that CCP talks of the successes of themed expansions like oh what was that one... that one with the sleepers and all the probing.... that one where you have to live out of like an orca or a ...POS or something they talk about how the audience for POS work is so small that it's not worth it- so which is it, were wormholes a wild success or is there only a small group of people that would care for such a thing? |
Dark Viola
The Red Circle Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:21:00 -
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I support this |
Eperor
Skyforger Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:22:00 -
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X POS REwap needet as air for breading.
or start preper for jita burn again. |
Borlag Crendraven
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
234
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:23:00 -
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Yes, and I've also read this entire thread, several older devblogs and dev comments about POS's needing to be fixed, that said I've yet to see anything happen. I don't want promises that they will be fixed, I want fixes. I'm fine with them coming out gradually but what I am not fine with is another batch of empty promises, blatant lies and belittling of the problem all the while admitting that there is a problem that needs fixing.
In the end Hans' blogpost has just as much information value as Two Step's post about staying calm or CCP stating that they are looking at it. Neither Hans or Two Step are the ones fixing the issues, and given CCP's track record, they are the ones that absolutely need to improve.
This isn't playing nice, it isn't playing mean, it's simply stating facts. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:24:00 -
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Nair Alderau wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote:Two step wrote: Lets try playing nice until the planning process is done, to start with.
Are we talking another 6 years here or? Like said before, enough playing nice, it's time to deliver and stop making excuses. If they've allowed themselves to fall into a situation where fixing this is too much work, they have only themselves to blame. He means the planning process for the summer expansion, which is starting now and lasts a few weeks. Have you read Hans Jagerblitzen's "The (P.O.S.) Elephant in the Conference Room"? if you haven't you should. You=person reading this now. "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Marsan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:25:00 -
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What the hell?!!? We've been patient with CCP not fixing anything related to POSes for quite some time because we'd been promised there was this new POS system coming. Believe it or not a lot of people depend on POSes. Maybe not directly but they sure as hell depend on goods produced in a POS. Wormhole dwellers are entirely dependant on POSes, and the complete lack of a sane security model has caused every corp I've played in to consider throwing in the towel. Not to mention I don't see how you'll ever get Null Sec industry going without a revamped POSes and/or stations. |
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Ravenstain
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:26:00 -
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Well thats a start. Good to know that you are keeping an eye in here, but Ill keep any praise to the minimum until you have caught up and actually started taking part in the discussion. |
Elder Ozzian
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:26:00 -
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As a wormhole dweller, i would love to see something done about the POS's. Currently they are horrific: Use of inventory (hangars), fitting services, ship maintenance bays, shooting at them, anchoring, doing the setup, fuel status and overall managing... I would like to get the feeling that the POS is my home, and make it less complex {currently the grid is full of sentrys and stuff}.
My opinion about how POS can be made to feel more like home: Let there be docking bay. Let us walk in our POS. Let there be love with the lonely towers lost in the unknown space of wormhole! I disagree! |
Kelyl Hanh
Frozen Dawn Inc Arctic Light
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:27:00 -
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I use POSes on daily basis and improvements are definitely in order. I would appreciate clear commitment from CCP to fix the issues preferably sooner than later. |
Kara Winter
Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:27:00 -
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There may be a small number of people who manage POS's but without them we don't have moon goo and T2 production.
How many pilots will be affected by a revamp... all that want T2... so everyone from miners to pvper's from highsec to the lowest null sov. |
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:29:00 -
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The argument that changing the POS system would only affect a small group of players is ridiculous.
At Fanfest they said they wanted to make the POS modular, be something everyone could have, etc.
I agree there are not a lot of people with POSs right now, but if you change them, that number could grow by leaps and bounds. Just the other day I was speaking to a new player and told him the POS is changing and it won't be long before he might be able to have his own. He was overjoyed at the idea. I guess I'll go tell him the bad news.
I use a POS, it's pretty much the only thing I use. It is a POS in all sense of the acronym, please please work on it! |
spanner man
Hexxed Warriors Hexxed Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:30:00 -
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well speaking as supporter of eve online for a number of years now and cant see that changing but a pos overhaul is well overdue mudular pos system and being able to anchor in deap space is something i would be very intrested in come on ccp wake up to the people keeping the game going as a single player we might be a single snow flake but together we make one hell of a snow ball give us our new pos overhaul PLZ |
Merisee
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:30:00 -
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Jr Instructorcon wrote:My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile.
It's true, I was once removed from Logistics because I was "too invested in my work," and that people were "highly concerned." But then they realized I was doing the job of 10 people, and quickly got me the help I needed.
Morgana Noven wrote:Jr Instructorcon wrote:My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.
Stew on that for awhile. We also support multiboxing deployment of towers using supers.
As one of said people, I have had to use my Nyxen in the past to keep up with alliance demands. I shudder to think what they'll make me do if/when I get an Erebus. |
Drakar Noir Eoner
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:31:00 -
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I fully support a revamp to the POS system as suggested. |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
319
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:32:00 -
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Two step wrote: This isn't the case. CCP has two basically separate decisions to make: 1) To fix the current POS system or not 2) To start work on a new POS system
Now it might be the case that they decide to fix the current system for this summer and start a new POS system after that, or they might decide to start on the new system at the same time they are fixing the current one.
Again, I'd like to remind folks that are actually reading this thread to keep things civil and constructive. Going all nutso will only hurt the chances of getting CCP to work on POSes.
So the question is DOES CCP TRI TO FIX AND THEN REVAMP, or CCP JUST START TO REVAMP.
Well... Why to do twice a job, if you can only do it once? Only fix a part of the code if it is to stick to the final product... else the job will not bepart of the value aggregation of the feature... Please read this! > New POS system (Block Built) Please read this! > Refining and Reprocess Revamp |
Ager Agemo
Imperial Collective
200
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Posted - 2013.01.17 19:32:00 -
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And my Giga Super capital Doomsday Gatling Antimatter Cannon.
now I completely agree pos need a total rework, I have setup 3 or 4 poses and it has been quite a pain always to manage and set them, not to mention, they were corp owned, not Player owned which mean I had to take them down each time I switch corp or alike. |
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