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Roime
Shiva Furnace
1692
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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:00:00 -
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Some further development ideas:
- separate shards for the nasty PVP types - ship emotes - mounts for ships - use all the possible colours in all in-space assets - new race: Pandatards - disband corps and alliances and divide population into two realms, "Chaos" and "Good" - ISK could be called Gold - SP from killing rats - buff Paladin
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Arec Bardwin
888
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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:15:00 -
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- Super cool PVP gear, that only can be bought with duel points and arena points, isn't destructible and doesn't drop as loot. |
Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
231
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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:32:00 -
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The only objection to this which springs to mind is simply down to it being an official mechanism supporting dueling.
It's not an objection to the notion of dueling in EVE as that has existed for yonks, but I dunno, it just feels less like EVE when it's a proper official mechanism supporting high sec duels rather than the players using a related system in an unexpected way. |
Warp Planet6
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:33:00 -
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Idea of duels is fine.
In lowsec.
(You don't fight in the bar, you go outside ...) |
Moresco
I.D.I.O.T. Sev3rance
14
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Posted - 2013.01.18 12:45:00 -
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TL;DR all pages so maybe my suggestions have already been posted:
1. I wish for a separate option to block all duel convoes similar to chat convoes
2. For future releases for 1v1 duels you should think about an extra option for a real limited engagement, which disallow both participants being in a fleet (to avoid hidden fleetbooster) and punishing remote assistancers with a criminal flag instead of a suspect flag to guarantee a *real* 1v1 at least in high security space.
Just my 2 cents FuriousPig > You need to examine Minmatar ships bro. No kidding, I tried to Salvage one last night. Took me 20 cycles before the pilot convoed me and told me to stop it. |
Mascha Tzash
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.01.18 13:37:00 -
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CCP Dolan wrote:Finally I can have truly honourable combat!
1v1 at the sun is now a real 1v1!
Will Off Grid Boosts (OGB) affect the ships involved? Does it make a real 1on1 if OGB is in effect? |
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:00:00 -
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Buzzmong wrote:The only objection to this which springs to mind is simply down to it being an official mechanism supporting dueling.
It's not an objection to the notion of dueling in EVE as that has existed for yonks, but I dunno, it just feels less like EVE when it's a proper official mechanism supporting high sec duels rather than the players using a related system in an unexpected way.
There's a difference between "allows for" and "supports." The current "CINC" timer really just allows for this the same way that mechanics abuse with jet cans (and let's face it, using mechanics in a way not intended by the developers is abuse no matter how harmless or harmful it is) used to.
There's one potential advantage to this sort of thing though. If there is a mechanic to either charge fees for engaging in dueling it would help reduce some of the isk floating around in the economy. Increase the cost of the fees based on system security and it will help push people towards lower-security systems. It might not push them into low-sec unless the fees are prohibitively high, but even with CONCORD intervention for "duel-busting" it'll give the offenders more time to act and get their jollies.
On a side note there's another option here for the people who want to avoid duel requests. Implement a fee similar to the CSPA charges for chatting with people who have them set. If someone really, really wants to pay 25m isk just to initiate a duel request with you, the fee is strictly for initiating the request and your acceptance of the duel request doesn't prevent the fee from being deducted from the aggressor's wallet, more power to them, but at 25m a pop I don't think you'd get very many.
These are things that the jet can mechanics (abuse) just didn't allow for. |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
406
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:14:00 -
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Mascha Tzash wrote: Does it make a real 1on1 if OGB is in effect?
Sure, why not?
_______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |
Claire Raynor
NovaGear
44
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Posted - 2013.01.18 14:20:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote: I can't believe my eyes: EVE is getting MMO features which was common like 10 years ago. And it's not even trumpeted like primary feature of yearly / named expansion. Now I expect to see following:
PvP arenas (with ship class and amount limits) ship cosmetics achievements (with cosmetic rewards) PvP ranks (with cosmetic rewards) housing
Is interesting - because EvE does have PvP arenas and the rankings that go with that and indeed actual ships as prizes. The Alliance Tournaments.
Eve has achievements of a sort that no-one uses in terms of those certificates.
Also the killboards offer rankings that are dotted all over the internet. With the achievment / KM whoring that someone mentioned going hand-in-hand with that.
I know the post I've quoted was serious and shows nicely where we don't want EVE to go. And I agree. But those things proposed actually have an analogue already.
The last item - housing. Well - some of us do want to see WiS become more developed one day.
On Topic: With stealing from a can now flagging you as a target to everyone - it is difficult to replicate the ad-hoc high sec combat that used to happen.
But I guess what we are all saying here is that. . . Concord are a bit OP - perhaps we would like to see a less artificial differential between Hi-Sec and the rest of EVE. |
Bob Killan
Dzark Asylum
5
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Posted - 2013.01.18 15:57:00 -
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WOW, when do we get to fit
Tyrannical Gladiator's Autocannon's? Frostmourne's Plate Armor? Can I have a space Dragon to fly behind my ship? PETS FTW...... PLEASE dont stop at duels. We NEED battlegrounds..... Sack the economist why pay for him when we can follow the WOW model. Increase All ISK rewards by a factor of 10 every expansion and make everything 10 time more expensive then we have a real sence of progression. You could even increase the modifiers by a factor of 10 for every ship mod every expansion now we're talking, who would leave Eve if there spaceship just got 10x more powerful?????
Now isnt this a step backwards CCP??? Is the problem getting people to populate nullsec??? How will people that now have "safe" PvP in Empire be incentervised to go out to Null Sec.
Think you dropped the [Smart]bomb on this one.
Please no more crappy WOW crap in my spaceship game please |
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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.01.18 17:40:00 -
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Bob Killan wrote:How will people that now have "safe" PvP in Empire be incentervised to go out to Null Sec.
The same way back when (counter)can-flipping was used to initiate "safe" PvP in high-sec.
Bob Killan wrote:Please no more crappy WOW crap in my spaceship game please
Right, because a five minute recurring CINT for easy, consensual dueling in high-sec is totally like World of Warcraft's dueling where there aren't repair bills, you can't die, the only way to get out of the duel is to leave the area or lose, and you can't heal (remote rep), buff (OGB), or attack (self-evident) the participants of said duel.
Talk about your Wrath of the Fail King... |
Warp Planet6
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:32:00 -
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Shereza wrote:Bob Killan wrote:How will people that now have "safe" PvP in Empire be incentervised to go out to Null Sec. The same way back when (counter)can-flipping was used to initiate "safe" PvP in high-sec.
How pathetic. Better grow up and come to lowsec. |
Eric 'Swiftmind' Siraron
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:41:00 -
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Sounds like a great addition.
I agree with these changes: -Auto decline duel request in my settings -Duel requests dont have keyboard hotkeys in case I accidently type something and agree to it -Change the sword logo -Track duel results separately from normal kills. Different evemail tag or what not. --áEric 'Swiftmind' Siraron A young idealist student in a crazed universe. |
Dalmont Delantee
Dropbears with Kebabs SpaceMonkey's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.01.18 18:56:00 -
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Malrock wrote:All fine for fun, but please, put under game client generic options a checkmark for auto declining all duel requests.
Thank You.
Agree totally, games that allow dueling has idiot **** kids trying to duel you all the time.
It should actually become set as auto decline so noobs don't get caught. |
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.01.18 19:35:00 -
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Warp Planet6 wrote:Shereza wrote:Bob Killan wrote:How will people that now have "safe" PvP in Empire be incentervised to go out to Null Sec. The same way back when (counter)can-flipping was used to initiate "safe" PvP in high-sec. How pathetic. Better grow up and come to lowsec. That duel mode is designed for the wrong sec space.
What parts of EVE other than high-sec have a police force which requires two (or more) consenting adults to jump though a step other than control+left-clicking -> F1-F8 in order to engage in consensual PvP? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3373
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Posted - 2013.01.18 19:56:00 -
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Warp Planet6 wrote:Idea of duels is fine.
In lowsec.
(You don't fight in the bar, you go outside ...) LOL, maybe where YOU live.... To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3373
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:01:00 -
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Eric 'Swiftmind' Siraron wrote:Sounds like a great addition.
I agree with these changes: -Auto decline duel request in my settings -Duel requests dont have keyboard hotkeys in case I accidently type something and agree to it -Change the sword logo -Track duel results separately from normal kills. Different evemail tag or what not. These are reasonable requests.
I'm not sure why some people are having trouble with the fact that thousands of these "duels" have happened every day in EvE for several years... and are popular with many pilots.
When game mechanics changed to make that lifestyle much more difficult (unintentionally) a new mechanic has been introduced to resolve the issue.
Losses still happen, pilots still end up in their clones... the only difference between this and regular PVP situations is that they are consensual (as they have always been with the old mechanic)... and as long as our normal options for non-consensual PVP are still in place there really isn't much to complain about. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Warp Planet6
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:13:00 -
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Shereza wrote:
What parts of EVE other than high-sec have a police force which requires two (or more) consenting adults to jump though a step other than control+left-clicking -> F1-F8 in order to engage in consensual PvP?
Lowsec has consensual pvp all over the place. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
593
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:27:00 -
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Warp Planet6 wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: I'm not sure why some people are having trouble with the fact that thousands of these "duels" have happened every day in EvE for several years... and are popular with many pilots.
When game mechanics changed to make that lifestyle much more difficult (unintentionally) a new mechanic has been introduced to resolve the issue.
In my case I think any kind of restricted pvp or consensual pvp as an official game mechanic could lead to a weird direction that reminds me of MMOs that I do not want to play anymore. Eve is different because exactly of this point: open world, consequences and no such stuff like battlegrounds etc. This isn't battlegrounds as I understand them. These duels take place in the same open world and are open to the same undesired interference as any other activity. It in no way restricts your ability to act against a person outside of a duel either, nor does it remove the consequences for doing so. There is literally no loss or restriction here. Only a gain. |
Warp Planet6
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:37:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Warp Planet6 wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: I'm not sure why some people are having trouble with the fact that thousands of these "duels" have happened every day in EvE for several years... and are popular with many pilots.
When game mechanics changed to make that lifestyle much more difficult (unintentionally) a new mechanic has been introduced to resolve the issue.
In my case I think any kind of restricted pvp or consensual pvp as an official game mechanic could lead to a weird direction that reminds me of MMOs that I do not want to play anymore. Eve is different because exactly of this point: open world, consequences and no such stuff like battlegrounds etc. This isn't battlegrounds as I understand them. These duels take place in the same open world and are open to the same undesired interference as any other activity. It in no way restricts your ability to act against a person outside of a duel either, nor does it remove the consequences for doing so. There is literally no loss or restriction here. Only a gain.
Agreed, if kept at a level as is and this mechanic won't grow to an arena bubble. I see several requests for exavtly that only in this thread. I bet there are more in the F&I section, just can't search now. |
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Thecla Elarik
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:45:00 -
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Malrock wrote:a checkmark for auto declining all duel requests
re-hashing the need for this |
Ibeau Renoir
Hoplite Brigade
76
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Posted - 2013.01.18 20:52:00 -
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Praxis Ginimic wrote:The most of us seem to agree that high sec is working as intended and that null is some how broken. So we get dueling and no new poses? That's like complaining that you're wasting time on a short hill walk when you really want to climb all the Himalayas. Ceci n'est pas un sig. |
Ibeau Renoir
Hoplite Brigade
76
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:03:00 -
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I'm not sure how assistance interacts with this for larger fights than 1v1.
Example: A and B want a 2v2 with X and Y. A challenges X and Y, B challenges X and Y, all challenges accepted. So there are limited engagements A <-> X, A <-> Y, B <-> X and B <-> Y.
They warp to a save spot and start shooting. Then A reps B.
What happens? Does A get suspect-flagged for interfering with a limited engagement? Ceci n'est pas un sig. |
Kalenn Istarion
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:38:00 -
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Two step wrote:To all the folks posting here and POSes, please stop. This has nothing at all to do with the POS system, until I can challenge another POS to a duel.
^^ Feature idea right here. Time to revamp POSes to allow for structure duels (and make them not ****).
I'm not a hi-sec battle specialist, but taking Ibeau's point a different way, let's say A duels B, and A's logistics alt C starts a duel with A, which A accepts. C can then rep A without a suspect flag, but C is not in a duel with B, so is not a legal target. This takes us back to exactly what was happening with neutral logi before all the changes to Crimewatch, doesn't it? Try Harder. |
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
193
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Posted - 2013.01.18 21:49:00 -
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Don't know if this was mentioned, I came a day or so late to the discussion and there are now 13 pages of comments, ... but it would be nice if there was a mechanic where one could specifically request a one-on-one duel and *not* a one-on-you-and-everyone-you-know-who-will-remote-rep-you-across-grid-and-apply-massive-dps-as-they-swarm-from-the-station-on-your-sorry-tush-unawares.
Simple checkbox for an actual strict one-on-one, which Concord would enforce. |
Sven Viko VIkolander
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
34
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Posted - 2013.01.18 22:27:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:Someone asked earlier about displaying the won duels. I'd like to expand upon the concept of persistent information with duels to something like a character sheet entry (win/loss/duel) or maybe something on the kill report or even a notification sent.
The reason is for corporations like my own. One of the only rules we have is that you honor 1v1s or you will be kicked. If you don't want to honor it, don't take it and just kill them normally. I've had to go through chat logs before to figure out if the 1v1 was accepted or not when complaints have been made. It'd be nice to have a simple 'you said yes' notification to work off of.
If they can be honorable let us hold them to their honor?
I like this idea. MOAR STATS MOAR STATS RAWR is what I say. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
107
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Posted - 2013.01.18 22:48:00 -
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Now please add battlegrounds, so we can take pvp further away from sporadic pvp areas, and put it into ruled and regulated areas, making the rest of Eve even more stagant.
Two thumbs way down here guys. |
Warp Planet6
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.01.18 22:53:00 -
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Haifisch Zahne wrote: It would be nice if there was a mechanic where one could specifically request a one-vs-one duel and *not* a one-and-everyone-they-know-who-will-remote-rep-them-across-grid-and-whose-friends-will-apply-massive-dps-as-they-swarm-from-the-station-vs-one-sorry-shmuck.
Not sure what the purpose of that kind of "pvp" is. e-peen? mine larger than yours? I pvp because stuff needs to explode and people need to crty about horrible losses to proceed. If someone calls his friends, that's bad, yes. Next time I will do better (instead of demanding a button). |
Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
81
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Posted - 2013.01.18 23:37:00 -
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I've compiled a list over stuff that people have mentioned, and given others a spin of my own. General stuff I feel is important.
- Auto reject option is required for non combatents
- Text rewrite please, no need for the huge timer. Maybe something more in the likes of the sessiontimer.
- Better image of sword, and smaller box for a less annoying popup.
- Anychance accepting duel would remove applied fleet bonuses? Alot of turnament people would be very pleased by such an small detail :)
- Stats and such for the lads that like to duel, so they show their e-peen when ever they feel it, could work like medals etc etc
- Repping a duelist should cause a suspect flag, and attacking a suspect that reps a duelist, should not cause a le, but direct suspect status.
- Awsome sound to intitiate the start of the duel.
- Imo it should be allowed to kill the pod legally, if you can catch it. Its a duel to death ofc..
- Flagging the KM, to make it show as a result from dueling.
- Enable the popup to be minimized.
LL Life is just a 420 all the way home :) Please give me more of that chocolate brew!!
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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.01.19 00:31:00 -
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Warp Planet6 wrote:Shereza wrote:
What parts of EVE other than high-sec have a police force which requires two (or more) consenting adults to jump though a step other than control+left-clicking -> F1-F8 in order to engage in consensual PvP?
Lowsec has consensual pvp all over the place. Yeah, risky and stuff and not for the kids
Where in low-sec is there a police force which requires two (or more) consenting adults to jump though a step other than control+left-clicking -> F1-F8 in order to engage in consensual PvP? |
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