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GeeShizzle MacCloud
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Posted - 2013.01.21 21:20:00 -
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Dr Vitoc wrote: ....lots of words.
Firstly relatively new players are not exempt from black ops fleets as bombers are the mainstay of black ops as they provide a good chunk of dps with a lot of adjustable utilities. the ideology of complete tactical control is a mainstay of black ops.
Secondly warfare links are possible on covert ops fitted t3s. no need for black ops command ships.
Thirdly the idea of black ops logistics is waaay overpowered. the reason the Etanu exists in the first place is only because such a ship is an exceptional rarity and their sheer cost and massive lossmail keeps it in check.
Fourthly the black ops noctis is rediculous as the suggested role is one of the best uses for Blockade runners. Theyre used for fuel and bomb trucks if you didnt know.
and Fifthly that change to cynos would make sooo many people rage soo hard that itd just be overturned.
the different gang link mechanic is interesting. but even then itd mean ur forcing bonuses on field by the need to be on grid. and many many pvp'ers have shown many reasons for it to also be providable off-grid.
the only real idea thats worth merit is possibly the black ops carrier bt even then not in the style you suggested and you havent really suggested much about it, as it can be assumed to be seriously overpowered. |
Tess La'Coil
Lightbringer's Sanctuary RAZOR Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.01.21 22:06:00 -
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Bagehi wrote:"Tackle that blockade runner!" " Why did he decloak?" " Oh god, we're all dead."
I foresee a lot of fun.
Fozzie, make sure you add a second highslot to all other Blockade Runners too then.
Not just the Prowler or it would be the only one useful addition that can "Cyno and Cloak" in a Black Ops team. And it would require the "truckers" to all train Minmatar Industrial on top of whatever race they currently have.
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Dr Vitoc
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.01.21 22:53:00 -
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Gee, Thanks for the constructive advice.
Quote:Firstly relatively new players are not exempt from black ops fleets as bombers are the mainstay of black ops as they provide a good chunk of dps with a lot of adjustable utilities. the ideology of complete tactical control is a mainstay of black ops.
You are correct that stealth bombers are the main stay of DPS however new players getting into the 50+ km for safe-ish torp range will take time. Most new players getting into stealth bombers go pop when just looking at their shadow. By adding more frigates to the group you would allow young players the ability to join in the fun. Most of the unistas I train love the first time they Hot Drop a RAT BS for practice. but when it comes to live Hot drops they almost we their pants.. As the training for new players is so diverse it takes dedication to stay on a training path that takes them towards Targeting Range Dampening, Torps, bomb launcher, covert ops cloaking device and anything else you want to fit onto a stealth bomber. Unless your going to move into a Large 0.0 corp/alliance then you will not get the opportunity to do this as the skills to do the other roles are many months away for any player. So by introducing in the frigates and destroyer class ships then it gives a better and cheaper oportunities to get tackle, ecm onto the which would be at the training skills of frigate pilots.
Quote:Secondly warfare links are possible on covert ops fitted t3s. no need for black ops command ships.
Yea i understand this but to make it fair then command ships should also be in the firing line. I run a almost un-scanable T3 in a system and it sits their all day. Black ops shouldn't be like that.
Quote:Thirdly the idea of black ops logistics is waaay overpowered. the reason the Etanu exists in the first place is only because such a ship is an exceptional rarity and their sheer cost and massive lossmail keeps it in check.
there is no problem if you have the isk/plex then you can buy a T3 and fit logi on it and jump it through but the Size (Fuel Cost) Isk Cost, Repping Range. People complain it would be way over powered but it just like other aspects in the game. Shield ships with the ASB are almost untouchable against an Armour ships Command ships who can give bonus and not be on grid is way over powered. any ship with a cloaking device that can stay cloaked all day is overpowered. Its all about finding the right balance in relation to the skills and training required.
Quote:Fourthly the black ops noctis is rediculous as the suggested role is one of the best uses for Blockade runners. They're used for fuel and bomb trucks if you didn't know
This was just an idea of how to cover all aspects of standard ships. If you are successful in your ops then you will need a salvager to clean the place up. Yes it takes the blockade runners job in a way but blockade runners are mainly for running around LS and 0.0. the only use for the blockade runner in Black Ops is to be and extended fuel tank.
Quote:and Fifthly that change to cynos would make sooo many people rage soo hard that itd just be overturned.
Well tough.. cyno is to easy.. so making of cyno alts would take a a few days rather than a few hours.
LAST QUOTE - the only real idea thats worth merit is possibly the black ops carrier bt even then not in the style you suggested and you havent really suggested much about it, as it can be assumed to be seriously overpowered.
Well the Black Ops carrier would only have a function of a taxi and a command ship. With the Command warfare links the pilot would be too busy keeping all of the members locked and bonuses. Basically its like a mini titan which would allow, lets Say 10 Bo-BS to bridge through it or 100 BO-frigates or the equivalent. Its the same theory as a titan but one that after a set bridge time automatically jumps through. So once the bridge is open there is no way to stop him from automatically jumping at the end of the bridge cycle. By doing this it gives small and medium size corps / alliances the ability to have the same fun as Large alliances giving the power back to the smaller groups. The only ships that could jump through the BO bridge would be BO-BS, Frig, Cru, Desi. |
Diometrius
Pursuit of Power JINN.
0
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Posted - 2013.01.21 23:30:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
- Open up the use of Covert Cynosural Field Generators on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners. This means that the availability of covert cynos is consistent and simple. If you can jump through the bridge you can light the cyno.
Geez that was a fast turnaround . Way more than I expected when suggesting the 99% reduction workaround earlier in the thread.
At the rate Fozzie works I'm beginning to think EVE will be perfect by the time Summer Expansion hits |
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
871
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Posted - 2013.01.22 03:23:00 -
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I like the proposed changes: Improved BLOPS jump / bridge range; Reduced fuel per kg per LY for a BLOPS jump or bridge; cov-cyno also able to be operated from blockade runners and covops-fit strategic cruisers (as well as the current covops frigates, stealth bombers, force recons, and BLOPS themselves).
For most of our current longreach BLOPS efforts this change should remove one intermediate staging jump (reduced hassle and staging logistics) and reduce the fuel cost GǪ but it hasnGÇÖt dumbed down or messed with the overall charm of BLOPSing at all.
This change seems to focus on the BLOPS activity, more than the particulars of that class of BLOPS battleships. As such it doesnGÇÖt seem likely to make them get used more as a direct-conflict combat ship, which only happens occasionally, but does make their BLOPS function GǪ the ability to covertly insert and extract combat fleets behind enemy lines, even into cyno-jammed systems GǪ a more powerful tool for the aggressor. I like that, I like that a lot. Thank you in slavering anticipation.
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Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
111
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Posted - 2013.01.22 04:16:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: Open up the use of Covert Cynosural Field Generators on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners.]
You might as well give all the transport ships except the prowler another high slot, as of right now the prowler will be the only one that can fit a cloak and a cyno, making the other transport ships useless as fuel trucks. Confederation of xXPIZZAXx CEO Watch PIZZA Videos http://www.youtube.com/user/LunchSquad |
Tess La'Coil
Lightbringer's Sanctuary RAZOR Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.01.22 11:19:00 -
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Junko Sideswipe wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote: Open up the use of Covert Cynosural Field Generators on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners.]
You might as well give all the transport ships except the prowler another high slot, as of right now the prowler will be the only one that can fit a cloak and a cyno, making the other transport ships useless as fuel trucks. Actually, I'd like a 3rd highslot on the prowler so I can continue using it as a Prober+Cloak.
Or, what would make even more sense.. add the ability to refit on Black Ops. Now that, would really fit their role as a Covert Platform. Someone once said I was a muppet. If that's so, I'm quite sure the Swedish Chef is my brother.-á |
Marc Callan
NullOcular Order THORN Alliance
120
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Posted - 2013.01.22 12:02:00 -
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One point: Stealth Bombers don't have their covops-cloak CPU tied to the Covert Ops skill; they have a fixed role bonus of -99.5% CPU for the cloak.
When the Covert Ops Cloaking Device CPU is adjusted, the Stealth Bombers will get their role bonus adjusted accordingly, and not deleted, correct? |
Anna niedostepny
Vengance Inc. Renegade Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.01.22 12:22:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:None of this will be a surprise to you avid minute-readers, but for everyone else here's what we have planned:
- Increase the base jump range of all Black Ops ships to 3.5 light years (equal to that of Titans)
- Reduce the mass multipler used for Covert Jump Portal fuel costs from 0.00000018 to 0.000000135 (Reduces the fuel cost of covert bridges by 25%)
- Increase the fuel bay on all Black Ops to 1250m3 (25% increase)
:Update Jan 21st: We have also refactored the methods used to limit older modules to certain ships. Most of the ships changed by this will simply have a more clear description (Can fit module X rather than -99% CPU to module X) but there are two gameplay improvements this change allowed us to make: - Change the CPU requirements of Covops cloaks to 100 and change the bonus on coverts, recons and blockade runners to "-20% CPU needed for cloaks per level". This means that cloaks will use the same CPU at level 5 (0) but the CPU use at lower levels is less crippling, making the use of these ships at less than level 4-5 more viable.
- Open up the use of Covert Cynosural Field Generators on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners. This means that the availability of covert cynos is consistent and simple. If you can jump through the bridge you can light the cyno.
- As a more neutral side effect that is still worth noting: the Combat and Attack Battlecruisers, as well as the Blockade Runners and Deep Space Transports, will now be in separate groups. This means anyone with custom overviews will need to add the new Attack Battlecruiser group and the new Blockade Runner group to their list of groups that show up on the overview. The default overviews will be adjusted automatically.
I approve of most of the changes here. The BLOPs needed a buff. Also covert cyno t3s already got my fits!! I probably use my BLOPs more than most right now as i bridge bomber's bar fleets alot.
I have a concern on the range though. Since BLOPs range is currently rather small i have spent alot of time looking for clever bridge systems from high sec. With a titans bridge range a covert ops base alliance/group can easily dominate a region via high sec where they really can't be touched. Such as bombers bar case you can't exactly war dec everyone....
So in short would there be any method out side a war dec to prevent being constantly dropped from high sec? |
Reppyk
Yarrbear Inc. BricK sQuAD.
328
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Posted - 2013.01.22 12:55:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Oh man, seeing Ravenhort complaining about faggotry with his constant barrage of off grid leadership alts is amazing. I love this change and may actually chase him around with Bops gangs just for fun. I use off grid ganglink alts and still complain about them. EVE is a competitive game but a few of us still can still hope for a better balancing. Of course, it's easy to beg CCP to see your favorite skills/ships/modules/mechanisms getting a buff while asking for a nerf for something you don't use/or your opponents are using. |
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Syzygium
Friends Of Harassment
26
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Posted - 2013.01.22 13:31:00 -
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Fozzie, do you guys realize that the same guys who are dropping everyone and his dog with the titanbridges will be the same guys who can now just store their 20++ blackops in the same staging system and cover an entire region (or more)? ISK is no limiting factor for these guys and the only reason why they didnt use BlackOps in the past was the limited range, the fuel management and the weak baits.
Now you have removed ALL of those points and given them just another tool to gank their victims anytime anywhere with maximum comfort and minimum risk.
It is beyond me why you guys want to cripple the game for smallscale PvP and smaller Corps that much... Cynowarfare is the single most stupid game mechanic in EvE Online, because it totally breaks the balance between power and mobility. All that counts is "how much backup do you have on the batphone". A few months ago there was a spark of hope when some dev mentioned that CCP has realized that all this instant forceprojection via Cynos is a problem. Listen to that guy. He spoke wisdom.
If you don't believe it, come to lowsec and count the titans, online and waiting to drop their hungy gankfleet on someone stupid enough to attack their baitship a dozen jumps ago.
This change is one more step from an EvE online where scouting, misinformation, fleet movement and hero tackle were important things, to an EvE online in form of a "Game of Cynos". Its a shame. There are so many ways you can buff BlackOps - increasing their range is the worst. Give them more Utilityslots, Higher Resistances, a greater Dronebay or more Cargospace so they actually can do their job behind enemy lines and far from own support better - but do not increase their range. I have FCed quite some BO-Gangs in my life and we use them very successful - they don't need more range. They need attention and skill - and thats good as it is! |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
3514
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Posted - 2013.01.22 13:44:00 -
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A couple questions I can quickly answer:
No this is not the "done" state for black ops. The covert cyno change is just another little things tweak in the interim. I don't think we have the bandwidth to change slot layouts on blockade runners this patch, but it's something to consider when we rebalance transport ships later. [*] Bombers are getting a 50% CPU reduction, so the end result will be exactly the same. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
478
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Posted - 2013.01.22 14:11:00 -
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I put up a market order for a redeemer about an hour after the minutes were released..
It was too late.. prices EXPLODED |
XOdysseyX
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
0
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Posted - 2013.01.22 19:47:00 -
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xVx dreadnaught wrote:Want to make the Black Ops more worthwhile flying?
Simple, give them their racial EWAR bonus.
Right now the only ship benefiting from it's racial EWAR bonus is the Widow, and to good effect, because why would I jump a billion isk ship into a fight, when I could throw a stealth bomber into the battle instead, with almost double the DPS at a fraction of the cost?
Making the Sin a long range point with damps, the Redeemer a close range neut boat like the Pilgrim and the Panther a web bonus like the rapier would make them more worth fielding.
- Dread
I second this! and liked. |
Devedse
Substandard industries Insidious Associates
5
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Posted - 2013.01.22 23:35:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Devedse wrote:Why has no one ever thought about the fact to make black ops be able to jump to high sec??? It would instantly give them a huge "cool feature".
I bet some mission runners wanna pimp out some black ops to be able to instantly jump to their mission sites. They can also be used for backup when wartargets are station hugging (bait them with only 1 ship there, jump in the black ops).
There's loads more things to think about they could do in high sec. It would give them a real unique role in EvE.
What about it guys? The more I think about this the better it sounds, and its not like every ship that can go through a covert jump portal is not allowed in high sec anyway.
I just hope some CCP guys read this too, and atleast keep it into consideration :). |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
183
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Posted - 2013.01.22 23:41:00 -
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Devedse wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Devedse wrote:Why has no one ever thought about the fact to make black ops be able to jump to high sec??? It would instantly give them a huge "cool feature".
I bet some mission runners wanna pimp out some black ops to be able to instantly jump to their mission sites. They can also be used for backup when wartargets are station hugging (bait them with only 1 ship there, jump in the black ops).
There's loads more things to think about they could do in high sec. It would give them a real unique role in EvE.
What about it guys? The more I think about this the better it sounds, and its not like every ship that can go through a covert jump portal is not allowed in high sec anyway. I just hope some CCP guys read this too, and atleast keep it into consideration :). If I remember correctly, this topic has come up before, and was not entirely ruled out. thhief ghabmoef |
Reppyk
Yarrbear Inc. BricK sQuAD.
329
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Posted - 2013.01.23 00:05:00 -
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The problem is opening a (covert) cyno in highsec, I think. |
Caldari 5
The Element Syndicate
21
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Posted - 2013.01.23 03:32:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Vilnius Zar wrote:While I agree that BO have been in dire straights a bit, I'm very much against making jump capable ships more "powerful", more range is fine and less annoyance is also fine. But if the future changes are about making them more viable in a combat situation I'm very much against it.
Jump bridges and jump capable ships are the very reason why we have boring and meaningless 0.0 and I would hope CCP to tone them down rather than to add more of them. Perhaps nerfing the range of all other jumping and bridging ships instead of buff the BO jump and bridge range would make black ops a bit more competitive. But yeah, I understand your concern about power projection. Reduce the Jump Range on everything, and increase the number of Solar Systems. increase the number of Solar Systems so that the current outer edge of Null is as Dense as Empire(HS) and then extend out Further again, Pockets of LS/HS on the very outer edges could make some interesting things happen as people transport goods from inner hubs to outer Hubs. iirc currently it takes about 6 or 7 Jumps to traverse Eve in a Carrier, I'd like to see this increase to about 40 or 50 at least.
GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote:Sinigr Shadowsong wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote: Open up the use of Covert Cynosural Field Generators on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners. This means that the availability of covert cynos is consistent and simple. If you can jump through the bridge you can light the cyno.
Another buff for Blockade Runners. Transport ships instead left to rot deep inside millenuim-old layer of space dust under the shadow of glorious Blockade Runners. maybe deep space transports should get a nullifier bonus then... would fit their brief as 'deep space' transports. This would be Awesome DSTs need the love. |
Trep Algaert
Cult Of Scotch
0
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Posted - 2013.01.23 06:38:00 -
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This means a real possibility of deploying a decent sized gang to... anywhere using a 3 ship combo for transport: cloaky/interdiction nullifier t3 for running gatecamps and lighting covert cynos, blops for bridging any cloaky ship, and a cloaky hauler for fuel needs. not sure exactly how many jumps around you could make before resupplying, but i imagine it's a lot. just add bombers, and season with recons to taste. when we get a proper combat blops battleship it'll be even better, though personally I think the blops fleet comp needs a dedicated support (frig) killer. maybe that can be webbing lokis fit with covert cynos now, though i don't know how effective the dual role would be. |
Cyaron wars
D00M. Northern Coalition.
21
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Posted - 2013.01.23 06:43:00 -
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@ Fozzie,
We will have president elections soon in my country. Please come and take part, u sir have my voice! :D |
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Mad Ani
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
1
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Posted - 2013.01.23 07:16:00 -
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
354
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Posted - 2013.01.23 13:51:00 -
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One of the most annoying thing in the Black OP ship, is that is can't warp cloaked... so it is not a good tatical ship.... make this change and you will see what will happen....
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Satracz
Meteoric Security Supply Service
1
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Posted - 2013.01.23 14:47:00 -
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Do NOT increase the max range of the BO,it is OK how it is NOW !
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6440
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Posted - 2013.01.23 17:55:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: Open up the use of Covert Cynosural Field Generators on any Strategic Cruiser that has the Covert Reconfiguration subsystem fitted, as well as on Blockade Runners. This means that the availability of covert cynos is consistent and simple. If you can jump through the bridge you can light the cyno. This is just marginalizing recons in favor of nullified cloaky T3s with covert cynos. Nullifiers are broken as hell (and I know this because I use a nullified cloaky T3 all the time) and this is a terrible idea.
The only reason to use a recon now will be for the shorter cyno duration, which doesn't matter anyway with covert cynos. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Chanina
ASGARD HEAVY INDUSTRIES Zombie Ninja Space Bears
21
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Posted - 2013.01.23 20:14:00 -
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I really understand that the black ops need to be buffed and this changes are at least a sign that there is something done. BUT with ranges like Titans and Tech 3 Fleets jumpable cloaking campers will become a more serious problem than they are atm. Currently you have the chance to find the rally point for the cov ops gang but with titan range there are way more systems to cover.
Black Ops and there features are very welcome but keep in mind what happens with the nice 24/7 neigbours. |
Quindaster
Infernal laboratory Infernal Octopus
35
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:20:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Quindaster wrote:What I want to see in BO after this changes on jump range.
1. less fuel usage for portal T3 ships. (because now if you portal 2 T3 - you out of fuel)
2. abbility to use warfare links. (yes, so we can use bonuses on armor, skirmish, shield)
3. abbility to refite from each other
4. remote rep bonuses on range for Sin.
5. T2 resists
6. NO new racial EWAR bonuses! No close range Redeemer with neuts or damps like some idiots wrote. Sounds like you want a Thanatos and not a Sin, but you want the Thanatos to be able to bridge also.
T1 crusers and T2 crusers have this bonuses, so they thanatos too?!
Why BS class cannot have remote rep bonuses if they support ships? 15-20km remote rep bunuses will be good, so, I don't know how you compare it to thanatos with capital remote reps...large reps vs capital...it's very big difference. |
Quindaster
Infernal laboratory Infernal Octopus
35
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:35:00 -
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Reppyk wrote:I You can jump another BlOp to return the fleet, even with a crane if you need more fuel.
aye, and you can say - you can always bring JF with fuel for whole fleet too. Do you know how many isotops use blockade runner when he jump in portal? I think no, because you will need to have dedicated BO to portal only bloakade runner or other ships cannot jump in portal because you will be out of fuel. |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader
157
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:41:00 -
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Nice changes but don't be afraid to really do the good things for Blops.
Give Us a specific Cargo for the fuel Like exhumers have a specific cargo to ore....
Give them a specific bonus according to the Race : Ewar for Widow/ Drones bonuses for Sin .....
Maybe make them Battleship command Ship ( But i see this role More for the Hyperion actually ) with proper bonus.
I don't even tank about the covert ops cloack ... because i still don't understand Why Blops don't have a big bonus for the use .oO
In order to resume make BS tech2 and improvement of BS and not only a niche .. with an only one role : make people jump...
Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
462
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Posted - 2013.01.23 23:45:00 -
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Quindaster wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Quindaster wrote:What I want to see in BO after this changes on jump range.
1. less fuel usage for portal T3 ships. (because now if you portal 2 T3 - you out of fuel)
2. abbility to use warfare links. (yes, so we can use bonuses on armor, skirmish, shield)
3. abbility to refite from each other
4. remote rep bonuses on range for Sin.
5. T2 resists
6. NO new racial EWAR bonuses! No close range Redeemer with neuts or damps like some idiots wrote. Sounds like you want a Thanatos and not a Sin, but you want the Thanatos to be able to bridge also. T1 crusers and T2 crusers have this bonuses, so they thanatos too?! Why BS class cannot have remote rep bonuses if they support ships? 15-20km remote rep bunuses will be good, so, I don't know how you compare it to thanatos with capital remote reps...large reps vs capital...it's very big difference.
2. abbility to use warfare links. (yes, so we can use bonuses on armor, skirmish, shield) Capitals can do this 3. abbility to refite from each other Capitals can do this 4. remote rep bonuses on range for Sin. The Sin is a drone ship, adding remote repair to it plus the stuff above would make it almost like a Thanatos with the exception of the Covert Jump Portal Generator. Ideas For Drone Improvement Updated 11/30/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader
157
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Posted - 2013.01.24 01:39:00 -
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if the sin is drone ship make it look like ... same Bandwidth than a Bs tech 1 , same number of drones than a Tech1 BS ....
Do something to Fix it SIN Should be an improved version of The Dominix
More deployable drones? more Bonus for drones ? more drone bay?? I would be nice to make the Black ops a mid ship between BS tech1 and dread. Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
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