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Eve Tycoon II
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.28 09:57:00 -
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tsuggerpuppe wrote: Why is he calculating with different decryptors if I check and use outsourced BPCs or not? I have just checked Hulk for example and I am a little bit confused. Usually ship bpcs can be single copy one, correct? No need to have a full run copy. So where is the difference, that is justifying a different decryptor?
When you select outsourced BPCs the copy time is taken out of the equation, which can change the overall result, for example if the copy time is very long it might be worthwhile to either use single run copies or use a large run number decryptor to offset that.
Ishina Fel wrote: While playing around, I noticed something odd with ME levels. I remember reading in some guide that you calculate the ideal ME level of a blueprint by taking the highest item quantity from the material bill, dividing it by 5, and rounding down. However, when I go to your Manufacturing calculator and toy with the ME levels of the input blueprints, the results don't follow that rule.
This is just a rule of a thumb. Every bpo is different, some have no ME effect at all (nanite paste, pos towers etc). And yes, you are correct, perfect ME for fuel blocks is 40. Check here. |
Govind
Parity Labs
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Posted - 2012.05.31 15:55:00 -
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Excellent tool, I just have a few suggestions.
- A a manual-mode where we can play with what decryptor (if any) is used for invention.
- A way to select if we intend to build or buy the component parts (rather than optimized selection).
- A shopping list so that when you are building the components you get total numbers of each advanced moon product that you need to complete the build.
- The expected profit per successful invention (still factoring in expected costs from failed invention) rather than just per-hour.
- Make the price fields editable (and/or add an export to CSV function so we can play with it in Excel).
Part of my motivation to be able to have more manual control over this is to better optimize for my own playstyle as opposed to theoretical optimals. For instance, I am typically going to ignore PE bonuses from decryptors and frequently build-times in general. My priorities are more often than not to optimize the time I spend while playing rather than real-time. If a job takes 6 days instead of 5 then to me that is just an extra day where I only need to pop in to check on things. |
Kahylan
Hapax Entropia
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:03:00 -
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Great tool. But one thing that's missing is the sales tax. |
Opaque Intent
Setenta Corp AL3XAND3R.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 06:43:00 -
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Manufacturing database not updated with inferno items? |
Opaque Intent
Setenta Corp AL3XAND3R.
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:09:00 -
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Nice to see the site up again.
The Totals section seems off for blueprints that produce more than a single unit per run (like ammo) |
Exzyz Aurilen
Tri Corp Solutions
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Posted - 2012.07.14 12:59:00 -
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Thanks alot this is really helpful. |
Sophara Hekki
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.23 16:14:00 -
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Very Helpful.
Any chance of adding other trade hubs like Amarr or Rens. |
JonnyRandom
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Posted - 2012.08.11 02:42:00 -
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Hi I was looking at the site and it's very good but a few questions... sorry if they sound very nooby...
There is a search for Invention and a search for Manufacturing, but the data in both for the same item seems to be different... the isk/perhour and the sales volume ratios are different....
Also for invention, the final calculation of isk/hour, I'm assuming this is per 1 production line? And also, how come when you search, it shows a much larger profit per hour number than when you click on the item and it gives you total? |
Elmo Zumwalt
Elmo's Roughnecks
0
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:15:00 -
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but does the number for invention cost at the bottom include the success chance related to invention? |
Bruce Blacky
Blacky Invention Research Development YinYang
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Posted - 2012.08.17 17:49:00 -
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looks realy good and i like it (liekd the OP).
But since inferno 1.2, you need to update a couple BPOs and the rules for ME and manufacturing costs.
see details in my post here
I definately will use your tool in the future thanks a lot for it.
cheers BB |
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Alison Light
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:49:00 -
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How do you calculate the prices for your tool ? |
Hans Arienth
Hanson Heavy Industries APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2012.08.30 20:40:00 -
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I believe the prices are calculated by manually pulling from market data websites like EVE Central.
However, it appears the website prices haven't been updated for a LONG time now so currently the website is not usable for estimating product profitability. |
Alison Light
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.31 10:30:00 -
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Hans Arienth wrote:I believe the prices are calculated by manually pulling from market data websites like EVE Central.
However, it appears the website prices haven't been updated for a LONG time now so currently the website is not usable for estimating product profitability.
Yeah, it seems to be an on-going problem. Which is a shame.
OP - is there anything others can contribute to your project? Perhaps to write some more code, or assist you in automating the market data? |
num1 producer
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
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Posted - 2012.09.05 07:11:00 -
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Awesome website man kudos \o/
idk if other people have experienced this or its being fixed but i cant put in bpos/bpcs with negative me or pe. |
Suni Khan
The Last Call. Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.05 10:26:00 -
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num1 producer wrote:Awesome website man kudos \o/ idk if other people have experienced this or its being fixed but i cant put in bpos/bpcs with negative me or pe.
stop right here.
stop using this site. and I warm anyone using this site.
Prices have not been updated for MONTHS. anything this site will tell you will be from months ago. Everything on the eve market had changed in that time and nothing on this site is even close to accurate anymore.
Use Eve Isk per Hour tool instead. it is a great tool. |
Suni Khan
The Last Call. Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.05 10:28:00 -
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Hans Arienth wrote:I believe the prices are calculated by manually pulling from market data websites like EVE Central.
However, it appears the website prices haven't been updated for a LONG time now so currently the website is not usable for estimating product profitability.
prices are manually pulled from the eve API. CCP does not allow this to be automated so it wont be. the OP and site maker has probably quit this project and/or left eve. |
Fliewatuet
Angelus dos Business
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Posted - 2012.09.06 11:54:00 -
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Suni Khan wrote:prices are manually pulled from the eve API. CCP does not allow this to be automated so it wont be. the OP and site maker has probably quit this project and/or left eve.
Sorry for pointing that out but thats quite a stupid comment. CCP does not allow automated (i.e. scripting) interaction with the game client. Thats it. Automated retrieval of current prices has nothing whatsoever to do with the game client. You should already be aware that there are and have been for years people who came up with quite a few ideas how to get at prices without automating any interactions necessary in the game client.
There are also countless programs and webpages around who retrieve their item prices from two or three collection point databases via API like eve-central.com and similar sites. I'm certain that most of those programs aren't even available for public usage. After all, if you put in a lot of work to get your computer to do the math and generate a list of items most profitable to build on your personal preferences (i.e. isk per hour, isk per click necessary, isk per day when online only from 13 to 15 and 20 to 23, etc..) why would you offer others the chance to compete with you? ;-)
Anyway, in this case everyone is talking about retrieval of price information of those databases. And since you obviously do not know how those are staying relatively up to date on their data may this be your homework: find out how they do what they do without violating CCP rules before posting another word about CCP rule violations on forum. ;) |
Suni Khan
The Last Call. Black Core Alliance
8
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Posted - 2012.09.08 09:35:00 -
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Maybe you should read everything that was said in this thread instead of going fully ape **** on me.
Eve Tycoon II wrote:Perfect timing Suni, it was updated as you posted. Im pretty busy irl currently so the frequency has dropped . Fully automatic dump straight from eve would break the EULA, so the only option is to integrate with other price site. Right now the database still has the old names, I will hold on with updating it until the Great Renaming (I fell old uing this reference.... ) is complete.
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sh4k33l En
Epsilon Inc Tribal Band
0
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Posted - 2012.10.24 08:53:00 -
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This website is only good for historical prices and hasn't been updated for at least 3 months |
Daddy LovesU
Etched Hull Ennovative Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.10.27 02:36:00 -
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First let me say i love the web site you have. But i think i found an error. was checking out a retriver manufacture time and cost. what caught my eye was the amount of minerials needed to build, the numbers dont match what is in game. am i on an old site (pre patch) or something? or have i not figured out how to use your site properly?
http://www.eve-market-guide.com/t1item.php?id=17478
fly safe @ remember Daddy LovesU |
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Zennokyrie
Cosmic Forge Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.11.28 03:15:00 -
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I found a few errors; Retriever, Procurer, Slasher,Tormentor, Atron BPO materials are way off (showing them more profitable than they should be)
Although very good job; I use your site all the time when I want to do an inventing though because I have not done the extensive amount of work required to make a spreadsheet for them and have limited programming experience.
I have only made a huge spreadsheet for T1 manufacturing and it doesn't include all items that you have. A few features mine does that yours doesn't (but I'd love to see added!) is prices are more accurate (updated more often), my sheet accounts for selling and buying taxes changeable with the players skills and includes an adjustable manufacturing cost per hour (although not the 1k starting a job) |
Decesse
Was in that corp till
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Posted - 2012.12.25 18:52:00 -
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your tables are off, some of the information being used in the invention and manufacture section is based from OLD BPO values, Cruiser hulls, mining barge hulls being some examples, please fix to new manufacture and recycle values. |
Zekk Pacus
RPS holdings
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Posted - 2012.12.30 18:28:00 -
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Price/materials data hasn't been updated in over a month, which is slightly frustrating as the website's code itself is solid. |
NNails
Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2013.01.06 09:03:00 -
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I really like this site, but pricing data being out of date is severely crippling the usefulness. I was going to write my own version of this, would prefer to work on this author's code base than to start from 0. If you're looking for help integrating automatic price data updates or otherwise are willing to share access to your code, please evemail me in game. |
sudobaal theblooded
HerpADerp Squad
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Posted - 2013.01.29 22:56:00 -
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awesome site been using it for some time, one thing i miss a bit is the faction stuff on there also, faction ammo would be tha bomb :) but keep up the good work |
dixieland
Lightbringer's Sanctuary RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:02:00 -
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This tool is fantastic and has replaced some of the spreadsheets I have been using.
I have a question - when I am on the manufacturing tab, and I update the BPC me/pe to -4, -4 and then click the "update" button (to reflect most of the t2 bpc's I have invented), it doesn't seem to update the costs/amounts in the output - and it still says ME:0 and PE:0 at the top.
Is this something I am doing wrong, or a fix needed in the code?
Thanks again for providing this for the community.
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Aoirlan
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.24 20:16:00 -
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Really great tool, but I was disappointed to see how long since the prices have been updated. The manufacturing section is largely unreliable for profitability because of this. |
Havoc Zealot
Sky Fighters Talocan United
24
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Posted - 2013.04.03 00:57:00 -
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It hasn't been updated in a long time which makes me sad but i understand why. gotta keep dem secrets
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Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
24
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Posted - 2013.04.03 01:44:00 -
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Indeed. Saddening, really. I sell drones and drones accessories. |
S'totan
Impen Reloaded Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.04.07 14:10:00 -
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Anyway you could setup each of the invention and manuffacturing pages so that people can input how many they want to build and it will adjust to the ammount of minerals it requires to build that many???
the guide is AMAZINGLY helpful, however, if you want it to be PERFECT ,IMO, it would really be better with that. |
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