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Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:39:00 -
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Sorry to interrupt all the epeen and trolling hereabouts, but I have a serious question.
What happened to the Caldari Eve Kill board?
You can still see the Gallente killboard up and running. (Go Adolf?) Both the Minmatar and Amarr eve kill pages are still functioning. Nice kill/death ratio for the underdogs too, btw.
But what happened to caldari.eve-kill.net? Is Eve Kill part of the vast CCP-led conspiracy to undermine the State? Did the day-long loss of all systems send them into a '404, faction not found' error? Or did they move to something shorter and more fitting, like squid.eve-kill.net? |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:55:00 -
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Who knows.. no one in CalMil that I know of has any control over it and I know it's crashed and lost it's database several times in the past, usually resulting in the KB being re-installed, however this last time it was never fixed and just left broken. It's been that way at least 2 months now.
You can still view kills @ http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=1295
[puts on tin foil wizard hat again] I think it was a evil conspiracy to stop our corp.. Back when we were active and growing and finally hit number two of top killing corps in Cal Mil for a month, the KB crashed and all the top killers were removed from the top of the KB and never replaced.
Prior to that it was a great recruitment tool, having the corp logo being in the 2nd spot at the top of the KB. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:50:00 -
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Interestingly, eve-kill doesn't count militia kills made by militia pilots in alliances. That said:
Amarr 8363 Test Alliance Please Ignore is No. 1 8250 Gallente 6985 Minmatar 5171 Caldari 3687
Add in militia alliance kills and I bet three of the four militias would be top 3 on eve-kill.net by a large margin.
FW is the place to be. |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:57:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Interestingly, eve-kill doesn't count militia kills made by militia pilots in alliances. That said: Amarr 8363 Test Alliance Please Ignore is No. 1 8250 Gallente 6985 Minmatar 5171 Caldari 3687 Add in militia alliance kills and I bet three of the four militias would be top 3 on eve-kill.net by a large margin. FW is the place to be.
It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS.
Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:24:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS. Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK I guess you should move to 0.0 and have fun out there. It appears that's the type of fighting you want. |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:30:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Mutnin wrote:It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS. Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK I guess you should move to 0.0 and have fun out there. It appears that's the type of fighting you want.
We used to have things called BC's in FW.. in a galaxy far far away a long time ago.. or something like that.. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.01.21 18:55:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Mutnin wrote:It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS. Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK I guess you should move to 0.0 and have fun out there. It appears that's the type of fighting you want. We used to have things called BC's in FW.. in a galaxy far far away a long time ago.. or something like that.. It was very rare when people fought over L3 plexes with BCs. So, not a FW problem. And cruisers are worth flying now, so no need to fly BCs 23/7 any more.
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Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.21 21:41:00 -
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it would be nice if they'd come up with a bc level plex that wasn't full open, and more larges please. SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars SLAPD is recruiting -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2360715&#post2360715 |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.01.21 22:02:00 -
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Caldari KB is up for me.
Just perusing through this month's top corp killers, I notice there aren't alot of strong active independent Cal Mil corps. Shame.
And yes, it's easy to kill frigs/dessies. Would be nice to get more BC fights. High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.21 22:45:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Caldari KB is up for me.
Just perusing through this month's top corp killers, I notice there aren't alot of strong active independent Cal Mil corps. Shame.
And yes, it's easy to kill frigs/dessies. Would be nice to get more BC fights.
They must of seen this topic, because it's been down a long time and I checked it as well after this post. Although looking at it being up, perhaps it was better down, there is a crap ton of red on it today.. |
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.21 23:09:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Mutnin wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Mutnin wrote:It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS. Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK I guess you should move to 0.0 and have fun out there. It appears that's the type of fighting you want. We used to have things called BC's in FW.. in a galaxy far far away a long time ago.. or something like that.. It was very rare when people fought over L3 plexes with BCs. So, not a FW problem. And cruisers are worth flying now, so no need to fly BCs 23/7 any more.
This. I didn't stop flying my drake because they nerfed hml's (hml's are still great, I use them on my caracals quite frequently). I stopped flying drakes because they buffed cruisers!
Not to mention, the HAM drake got quite a buff, and even with the incoming nerf (oh no, it lost a high slot a lot of people left empty anyways) it's still going to be a beast. Plus, I always flew my drake super nano, and the caracal is a better drake for how I fly (no tank, lots of speed and damage projection, AND it's got rainbow damage). |
SAJUK NIGARRA
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2013.01.22 00:01:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:
It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS.
Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK
Posting in a thread where I agree with Mutnin. |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.22 00:15:00 -
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chatgris wrote:[ This. I didn't stop flying my drake because they nerfed hml's (hml's are still great, I use them on my caracals quite frequently). I stopped flying drakes because they buffed cruisers!
Not to mention, the HAM drake got quite a buff, and even with the incoming nerf (oh no, it lost a high slot a lot of people left empty anyways) it's still going to be a beast. Plus, I always flew my drake super nano, and the caracal is a better drake for how I fly (no tank, lots of speed and damage projection, AND it's got rainbow damage).
I didn't stop flying my BC due to any changes CCP made to the BC, but rather I simply have a very hard time finding any targets for them. Usually all I see out is frigs & dessies with cruisers here and there. This more than anything has caused me to not log in an play very much.
I'm a fan of BC's I always have been and a cruiser while some are very nice tend to be a lot more limited when dealing with small gangs than a BC is. I will say I'm not very happy with what they did to HML's & the Cane's pwr grid but that wouldn't make me stop flying them. It's simply no real targets for them these days as everyone is orbiting buttons in plexes. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.22 00:36:00 -
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Well, I guess you and lock out agree. Personally, I have just as much, if not more, fun fighting destroyer vs destroyer than BS or BC vs BS or BC. And for that, factional warfare is the best it's ever been for me.
Though without trolling - if you like larger ship combat, in the rest of eve well, that's still dominant. What is stopping you from going elsewhere? |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:49:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Interestingly, eve-kill doesn't count militia kills made by militia pilots in alliances. That said: Amarr 8363 Test Alliance Please Ignore is No. 1 8250 Gallente 6985 Minmatar 5171 Caldari 3687 Add in militia alliance kills and I bet three of the four militias would be top 3 on eve-kill.net by a large margin. FW is the place to be. It's mostly just frig kills anymore so quantity doesn't out do quality. It's easier to kill Merlins & Atrons than to kill BC's & BS. Example that 8k of Amarr kills was just 313.25B ISK vs the 8k of Test kills which was 722.45B ISK
Are you saying that the many 1v1, 4v5, etc. nice frig fights require less skill than being the 47th Nyx pilot on killmail?!
Yes, I got trolled. |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:31:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Are you saying that the many 1v1, 4v5, etc. nice frig fights require less skill than being the 47th Nyx pilot on killmail?! Yes, I got trolled.
I'm simply stating it's much easier to kill a frig than it is to kill that Nyx. Added to this there is much more risk on the line when fighting in ships bigger than frigs & destroyers. No one cares if they lose a frig or a destroyer but they start to feel it if they lose a number of BC's.
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SaltyandSweet
Parallax Shift The Periphery
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:43:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Are you saying that the many 1v1, 4v5, etc. nice frig fights require less skill than being the 47th Nyx pilot on killmail?! Yes, I got trolled. I'm simply stating it's much easier to kill a frig than it is to kill that Nyx. Added to this there is much more risk on the line when fighting in ships bigger than frigs & destroyers. No one cares if they lose a frig or a destroyer but they start to feel it if they lose a number of BC's. 8 thousand kills is a lot of kills regardless but it simply doesn't have the same hurt factor when it's mostly T1 frigs & Destroyers rather than more expensive stuff. tbh hasnt the price of all BCs gone up recently? i can but alot of dessies and frings over 1 bc, especially the tier 3. i love some good ole BC action but i think for the wallet factor people prefer the frigs because its simple to go back to base rather than losing a BC and being like "**** i only have 4 more". Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE! |
Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:53:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Well, I guess you and lock out agree. Personally, I have just as much, if not more, fun fighting destroyer vs destroyer than BS or BC vs BS or BC. And for that, factional warfare is the best it's ever been for me.
Though without trolling - if you like larger ship combat, in the rest of eve well, that's still dominant. What is stopping you from going elsewhere?
I've tried null sec, but these days it's far too dead.. The big Coalitions have killed null with their NAP's and the endless regions of BFF . You have groups like .EXE whom take up entire regions like Cloud Ring and don't live there. a place just a few jumps away that I used to be able to go and get some random fights is now dead as it could possibly be. Pure Blind is largely the same.
I used to keep an alt out in Syndicate, but that wasn't the same as regular null sec, it was much more like a slightly different low sec and the same kind of combat that happens in low. (ie lots of bait and gank with gay homosexual sex)
You say go somewhere different, but low sec was much better fighting than it is today. Low Sec has turned to Lazy Sec these days. Gate camps are far too prevalent and you rarely find roaming gangs. Most of the times it's just the same groups sitting in their same little stagnant systems camping the same gates day in and out.
Now days it's just sit on a gate or titian drop people if you have one, the game is filled with lazy fat kids.. Where can I go to get fights in BC's?.. because I honestly have no clue anymore, it used to be low sec FW space but not anymore..
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Mutnin
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Posted - 2013.01.22 02:57:00 -
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SaltyandSweet wrote: tbh hasnt the price of all BCs gone up recently? i can but alot of dessies and frings over 1 bc, especially the tier 3. i love some good ole BC action but i think for the wallet factor people prefer the frigs because its simple to go back to base rather than losing a BC and being like "**** i only have 4 more".
BC have gone up a lot, but it's also much easier to make ISk than it ever has been. When we were running BC's gangs it was never really an issue for our newer pilots to afford them, it was just getting them able to fly it skill wise. The only guys that had any problems affording them were usually just to lazy to go run a few FW missions.
Granted they couldn't toss them away like a frig, but we were always very careful with our BC gangs because I didn't want to welp them all on a bad call. Which did happen at least twice... |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.22 07:14:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:SaltyandSweet wrote: tbh hasnt the price of all BCs gone up recently? i can but alot of dessies and frings over 1 bc, especially the tier 3. i love some good ole BC action but i think for the wallet factor people prefer the frigs because its simple to go back to base rather than losing a BC and being like "**** i only have 4 more".
BC have gone up a lot, but it's also much easier to make ISk than it ever has been. When we were running BC's gangs it was never really an issue for our newer pilots to afford them, it was just getting them able to fly it skill wise. The only guys that had any problems affording them were usually just to lazy to go run a few FW missions. Granted they couldn't toss them away like a frig, but we were always very careful with our BC gangs because I didn't want to welp them all on a bad call. Which did happen at least twice...
welp is way to get respect and to have fun, just read forums ! |
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SaltyandSweet
Parallax Shift The Periphery
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Posted - 2013.01.22 07:21:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:SaltyandSweet wrote: tbh hasnt the price of all BCs gone up recently? i can but alot of dessies and frings over 1 bc, especially the tier 3. i love some good ole BC action but i think for the wallet factor people prefer the frigs because its simple to go back to base rather than losing a BC and being like "**** i only have 4 more".
BC have gone up a lot, but it's also much easier to make ISk than it ever has been. When we were running BC's gangs it was never really an issue for our newer pilots to afford them, it was just getting them able to fly it skill wise. The only guys that had any problems affording them were usually just to lazy to go run a few FW missions. Granted they couldn't toss them away like a frig, but we were always very careful with our BC gangs because I didn't want to welp them all on a bad call. Which did happen at least twice... lol it happens and all trolling aside im sure were all in it for the good fun, ive had a few fights where i felt like i did my 1st major engagement palms all sweaty and ****. and yea im too lazy to do FW missions or plex lol. but i do have some lps sitting around i should use em. Im So Baller I Buy Plex Cuz im too lazy to do PVE! |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:52:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:
Now days it's just sit on a gate or titian drop people if you have one, the game is filled with lazy fat kids.. Where can I go to get fights in BC's?.. because I honestly have no clue anymore, it used to be low sec FW space but not anymore..
Your view is far too pessimistic and doesn't always reflect reality. I'd say every other night, there are gangs roaming around in BCs and other shinies in the Black Rise/Essence region. I'm not just talking about the big gangs like Snuff and whatnot, but even smaller gangs of 10 or less.
Perhaps though, it would be more appropriate to say that most of these gangs are not to your taste given you are in a small corp and can only field 3-4 people. Most BC gangs tend to have more than what you can field.
I will, however, agree that it does get tiring killing the umpteenth dessie/frig from the same opponent(s). I constantly have alot of bad Cal Mil pilots from Liandri, BRGF, amonst many others, roaming into our home systems and talking smack. Asking for us to undock something to go kill their silly 5 man merlin/condor gang in a novice plex. I'm like "Seriously. Really?" Probably only two alliances/corps in all of Cal Mil who can actually go beyond cruisers. High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.22 15:08:00 -
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Hells yeah, like, duh
Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Are you saying that the many 1v1, 4v5, etc. nice frig fights require less skill than being the 47th Nyx pilot on killmail?! Yes, I got trolled.
QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
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