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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:10:00 -
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terzho wrote:
Evidence? I have evidence that there is. Where is there evidence that there isn't? Or that NPC's have too much EHP?
Here is your inflation thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1161569#post1161569 You wont be warping that much if you reduce NPC EHP. If you are hiding behind inflation, then you got nothing. Inflation is caused by lack on minerals in the is game not RL factors like an overabundance of money.[/quote]
If you're saying that is where my evidence for inflation is from, you are wrong. CCP themselves said inflation was a problem. Furthermore inflation is not caused by lack of minerals, i don't know where you got that from. It is from too much isk being injected into the game which happens if your change happens. [/quote]
I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc. don't worry the isk wont flow fast enough to mess up the EVE market. the link was to encourage you to take your inflation worries elsewhere. NPCs need to lose some EHP and it wont hurt the market. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:14:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc. don't worry the isk wont flow fast enough to mess up the EVE market. the link was to encourage you to take your inflation worries elsewhere. NPCs need to lose some EHP and it wont hurt the market.
FW was never an ISK faucet, and they did nerf both FW and Incursions. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:15:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc. don't worry the isk wont flow fast enough to mess up the EVE market. the link was to encourage you to take your inflation worries elsewhere. NPCs need to lose some EHP and it wont hurt the market. FW was never an ISK faucet, and they did nerf both FW and Incursions.
Did they add more EHP to the NPCs? |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:17:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc. don't worry the isk wont flow fast enough to mess up the EVE market. the link was to encourage you to take your inflation worries elsewhere. NPCs need to lose some EHP and it wont hurt the market. FW was never an ISK faucet, and they did nerf both FW and Incursions. Did they add more EHP to the NPCs?
They added more EHP worth of NPCs required for completion of sites, yes. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:21:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc. don't worry the isk wont flow fast enough to mess up the EVE market. the link was to encourage you to take your inflation worries elsewhere. NPCs need to lose some EHP and it wont hurt the market. FW was never an ISK faucet, and they did nerf both FW and Incursions. Did they add more EHP to the NPCs? They added more EHP worth of NPCs required for completion of sites, yes. What? Write it again your english is bad. Did they increase the EHP of the existing NPCs ? |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:23:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc. don't worry the isk wont flow fast enough to mess up the EVE market. the link was to encourage you to take your inflation worries elsewhere. NPCs need to lose some EHP and it wont hurt the market. FW was never an ISK faucet, and they did nerf both FW and Incursions. Did they add more EHP to the NPCs? They added more EHP worth of NPCs required for completion of sites, yes. What? Write it again your english is bad. Did they increase the EHP of the existing NPCs ?
They added more NPC in the sites which effectively require you to shoot more EHP worth of ship before you can get your reward. Basicly, it means CCP wanted the sites to take more time to complete. |
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
42
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:25:00 -
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Posting in another " I Want Easy Mode" thread. Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts. |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:27:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
They added more EHP worth of NPCs required for completion of sites, yes.
What? Write it again your english is bad. Did they increase the EHP of the existing NPCs ?
Nope, my sentence parses perfectly in English.
With FW, they changed it to require killing some NPCs instead of no NPCs, meaning that you have to kill more EHP worth of NPCs to complete the site.
With Incursions, you are now required to kill all of the NPCs instead of only some of the NPCs, meaning that you have to kill more EHP worth of NPCs to complete the site.
Both have very similar effects to increasing the EHP of the individual ships, in that it makes the sites take longer (or, in the case of FW, require the fitting of guns) to complete.
Regardless, you claimed that
Aza Ebanu wrote:I'm sure if they were worried about all that they would have nerfed FW, Incursions, etc.
I showed you that they did nerf FW and Incursions. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
484
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:28:00 -
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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:30:00 -
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Yim Sei wrote:I got nothing.
FIXED |
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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:32:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:[
They added more NPC in the sites which effectively require you to shoot more EHP worth of ship before you can get your reward. Basicly, it means CCP wanted the sites to take more time to complete.
So the answer wasn't that the NPCs needed more EHPs but they needed more bounties? |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:33:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
I showed you that they did nerf FW and Incursions.
So they added more bounties? |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:46:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
I showed you that they did nerf FW and Incursions.
So they added more bounties?
Nope. If they had, it wouldn't have been a nerf. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 08:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
I showed you that they did nerf FW and Incursions.
So they added more bounties? Nope. If they had, it wouldn't have been a nerf. But they did not increase the NPC's EHP? |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.22 09:01:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Aza Ebanu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
I showed you that they did nerf FW and Incursions.
So they added more bounties? Nope. If they had, it wouldn't have been a nerf. But they did not increase the NPC's EHP?
Nope. But they did nerf both Incursions and FW pretty harshly, showing your argument of "If they were worried about inflation, they would have nerfed incursions and FW" is bull.
NPC EHP is fine as is.
It's up to you to come up with an actual, compelling argument to the contrary. And, so far, you're best effort has been "I want to make more ISK per hour, so CCP should make things easier for me, and damn the economic consequences." Guess how compelling that is. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7274
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Posted - 2013.01.22 15:14:00 -
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Agreed.
Of course it's also time for NPCs to fit their ships properly, use tackle, omnitank, warp off when they're dying and primary the weakest opponent on grid. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7274
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Posted - 2013.01.22 15:21:00 -
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Oh and NPCs never got a damage buff when rigs were introduced, which obviously hugely incresed the effective tank available to PvE ships. Add that to the list! Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.01.22 17:36:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Agreed. Of course it's also time for NPCs to fit their ships properly, use tackle, omnitank, warp off when they're dying and primary the weakest opponent on grid.
Yeah they should have that 60% loot drop too. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7283
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Posted - 2013.01.22 18:07:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:Malcanis wrote:Agreed. Of course it's also time for NPCs to fit their ships properly, use tackle, omnitank, warp off when they're dying and primary the weakest opponent on grid. Yeah they should have that 60% loot drop too.
Hahahaha 60% Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.22 18:14:00 -
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Aza Ebanu wrote:Malcanis wrote:Agreed. Of course it's also time for NPCs to fit their ships properly, use tackle, omnitank, warp off when they're dying and primary the weakest opponent on grid. Yeah they should have that 60% loot drop too.
What 60% loot drop? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.01.22 18:19:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
What 60% loot drop?
Hey Ruby lets be friends. |
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