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RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.27 23:03:00 -
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Zack Korth wrote:wish i had been in on it, don't have the isk or the connex though, i'm too a point where everything i can do in eve with a few billion isk bores me, the problem is that i don't have many billions of isk to do something entertaining, i'm starting to see how people eventually quit EVE.. even if i did have the isk, i'd probably just get disconnected and lose my super
You don't have the ISK or connections to fly a noobship to Lowsec and get on killmails in the middle of an hours long fight that was publicized on the EVE news sights as it was happening? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
terzho
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
121
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Posted - 2013.01.28 00:01:00 -
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omg the battle was totally so boring and uneventful........Op totally knows what's up http://themittani.com/media/pretty-lights-video-battle-asakai |
Aareya
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
14
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Posted - 2013.01.28 01:24:00 -
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The videos do not capture the intricacies in a large fleet battle. In these heavily TiDi situations, pilots are presented with a host of unique problems. Under heavy TiDi, a few seconds of delay easily becomes minutes of delay. Each mistake you make can take minutes to correct (e.g. deploying sentries instead of fighters, switching targets). In normal small gang combat, you can make a decision and, within seconds, measure the result to make adjustments. In these fleet battles, minutes will pass before you can even start to observe the results, all the time realizing that reinforcements are on their way unencumbered by TiDi. You can't dilly-dally. And you can't afford to make mistakes.
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Sir Diablos
The Plebian Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:08:00 -
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Implying Implications wrote:This is why NPC corps shouldn't be allowed to post.
But that would eliminate three-fourths of the nulsec players that are afraid to post with their mains... The devil is in the details... |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2507
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:29:00 -
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Sir Diablos wrote:Implying Implications wrote:This is why NPC corps shouldn't be allowed to post. But that would eliminate three-fourths of the nulsec players that are afraid to post with their mains...
I see no problem with that. Also very little evidence that your premise is true, but v0v. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:53:00 -
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It would of been better if there were bubbles bombs and DDs being flung around. Also it would of been better if it was planned so that CCP reinforced the node. That being said. Null is baloooed up. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1401
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:06:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:The fight would have been much more interesting, and moved much faster if it was in null with all the DD's going off. Also Bubbles to make everyone stick around. Anyway, I had quite a bit of fun whoring on Caps and Titans in my bomber.
My one regret is that I didn't ***** on both of boats supercaps before they popped.
Because I was in delve.
Shooting renters. |
Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
190
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Posted - 2013.01.28 03:18:00 -
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Dersk wrote:Poker is such a boring game. All the players do is put money on a table and flip cards. How droll.
You ain't ever played poker at my house apparently. |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1610
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:34:00 -
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No end-games for EVE please. I was reading through this myself a short while ago and thought, 'end-game? wtf?' Bad Soundwave.. Bad!
Really, jokes aside, (and not very good ones at that), EVE doesn't have an end game, it simply has a limitation of what you can do, and how far you can go. Hopefully, we'll see this elevated rather than lessened in the future. I am all for the Supercap Cores, (and Titan ones too), though. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
1610
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:37:00 -
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Elvis Fett wrote:Dersk wrote:Poker is such a boring game. All the players do is put money on a table and flip cards. How droll. You ain't ever played poker at my house apparently.
Last time I played Poker it was a rather nervous affair with a shark of a woman. She beat me, hands down. I don't mean to imply anything by that, but it is a funny sort of expression given the circumstances. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3586
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:02:00 -
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Aareya wrote:The videos do not capture the intricacies in a large fleet battle. In these heavily TiDi situations, pilots are presented with a host of unique problems. Under heavy TiDi, a few seconds of delay easily becomes minutes of delay. Each mistake you make can take minutes to correct (e.g. deploying sentries instead of fighters, switching targets). In normal small gang combat, you can make a decision and, within seconds, measure the result to make adjustments. In these fleet battles, minutes will pass before you can even start to observe the results, all the time realizing that reinforcements are on their way unencumbered by TiDi. You can't dilly-dally. And you can't afford to make mistakes.
Good post. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Johnny thorir
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2013.01.28 08:12:00 -
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I just would like to point out, even tho capital ships require litle piloting fitting one right and having the right implants matter tho it may seem like an easy enough task i see so many supers fit stupid and no like they should.
and i can tell you if there was a ****** flying the PL NYX that warped out in 10% armor and had 100 figther bombers follow him he would be dead |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2168
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:08:00 -
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Well, not all of us 'Hisec' folk found it boring. Some of these people will whine regardless of what sec they are in. |
Jaiimez Skor
I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans
60
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:48:00 -
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Elvis Fett wrote:Dersk wrote:Poker is such a boring game. All the players do is put money on a table and flip cards. How droll. You ain't ever played poker at my house apparently.
Don't forget the dropping trou, or is that just at mine... |
Una Achura
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 12:53:00 -
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Go to youtube, type in "Rooks and Kings" and watch the videos. Then say cap combat is boring.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1217
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Posted - 2013.01.28 13:20:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Well, not all of us 'Hisec' folk found it boring. Some of these people will whine regardless of what sec they are in.
You're right of course, there are haters everywhere, not just in high sec (and we know they are only a crazy fringe of high sec, not nearly everyone). It just boggles my mind that these vocal high sec based haters are so warped that they could look at the best, most epic part of EVE Online and find a way to crap on it.
Perhaps they are simply jealous (because nothing THEY will ever do will make real world news) , but whether it is that or something only a real life psychologist would be helpful for, it's still absolutely crazy.
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
298
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:03:00 -
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Baron Dmitri Harkonnen wrote:
To be frank after watching this supposed "epic" clash made me want save the Damsel for the 7439th time compared to engaging in large fleet battles in low / null sec. How could you be remotely satisfied with the fight? You been **** on that much, friend?
All I could think when watching was....really??
Why do you think people wants CCP to fix lag? |
Skippermonkey
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1765
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:35:00 -
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Kalle Demos wrote:I have never really understood the fascination with supercaps, its like being tied to a chair made out of diamonds, what possible fun could that be http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.site/PHnNIvneYeLGrr_3_m.jpg COME AT ME BRO
I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
258
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:20:00 -
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Sir Diablos wrote:Implying Implications wrote:This is why NPC corps shouldn't be allowed to post. But that would eliminate three-fourths of the nulsec players that are afraid to post with their mains... Boo fukcing hoo. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Serptimis
The Fiction Factory Tribal Band
130
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:39:00 -
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Dersk wrote:Poker is such a boring game. All the players do is put money on a table and flip cards. How droll. CFC said "I'm all in" , and PL said "Ok, sure, I'll call" |
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1695
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:51:00 -
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Baron Dmitri Harkonnen wrote:To be frank after watching this supposed "epic" clash made me want save the Damsel for the 7439th time compared to engaging in large fleet battles in low / null sec. How could you be remotely satisfied with the fight? You been **** on that much, friend?
All I could think when watching was....really?? You're not convincing anyone else, so I really hope you're managing to convince yourself buddy.
Or, maybe this is Eve's first "Didn't want to experience any content anyway" ?
Jenn aSide wrote:So let me get this straight: So some high sec people are in this thread commenting about how "boring" a big huge epic supercapital fight was.
The same people that constantly tell us that "we" ruined null sec because everyone (especially huge groups like Goons and TEST) are "blue to everyone" and that null sec is so empty because no fights ever happen there etc etc.
High Sec people..... There's no logic to it, because they're just rageragerage angry and trying really, really hard to convince themselves they're having a better experience than anyone else. See the guy I quoted, who non-ironically said he would rather do "combat" -- by which he means highsec missions, of course!
To be honest, though, the people who simply think "I want the biggest shipzzz!!" is "end game" are really the people least likely to make it there. As if that was a goal, anyway. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
50
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:27:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Well, not all of us 'Hisec' folk found it boring. Some of these people will whine regardless of what sec they are in. You're right of course, there are haters everywhere, not just in high sec (and we know they are only a crazy fringe of high sec, not nearly everyone). It just boggles my mind that these vocal high sec based haters are so warped that they could look at the best, most epic part of EVE Online and find a way to crap on it. Perhaps they are simply jealous (because nothing THEY will ever do will make real world news) , but whether it is that or something only a real life psychologist would be helpful for, it's still absolutely crazy.
So tell me how all these hi-sec players prevented you from having fun.
Or is it the fact contrary opinions to your world view make you mad? "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
789
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:30:00 -
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Una Achura wrote:Go to youtube, type in "Rooks and Kings" and watch the videos. Then say cap combat is boring.
And then watch their small non-cap work after that to see what people actually mean in here when they say they dislike being in a big capital blobfight.Rooks and kings is not known for their capital blobs , that is PL.Rooks and kings is known for being VERRY versatile meaning they also are king in small scale.
You guys get all on your high horses because someone makes a comment that he thinks blob capital warfare is not his thing.''Carebear , go back to high-sec , go back to WoW , lol noob you don't know what you are talking about''.I have never done PI because it looks boring.So now anyone who does PI should immediatly start telling me i am an idiot and i play the game the wrong way ?
Really does everyone have to agree with everything YOU like or do?Do you really feel so insecure that you need a token of worship/respect from everyone in this game?
He did not say he dislikes pvp , he did not say he dislikes losses , he did not say he dislikes flying in fleets .... he said he dislikes big capital blob fights and i agree with him and yes i have participated in them a few times.Twice was enough to be honest to know it wasn't to my liking.
Amazing right that even in pvp people seem to have different tastes and opinions.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Barakach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2013.01.28 17:32:00 -
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It would be more fun to watch if dilation wasn't so horrible that EvE was effectively a "turn based" game.
Modern servers should be plenty of power to calculate everything that is going on.
At least these large battles gives CCP some good data to see where the bottlenecks are.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1219
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:03:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Well, not all of us 'Hisec' folk found it boring. Some of these people will whine regardless of what sec they are in. You're right of course, there are haters everywhere, not just in high sec (and we know they are only a crazy fringe of high sec, not nearly everyone). It just boggles my mind that these vocal high sec based haters are so warped that they could look at the best, most epic part of EVE Online and find a way to crap on it. Perhaps they are simply jealous (because nothing THEY will ever do will make real world news) , but whether it is that or something only a real life psychologist would be helpful for, it's still absolutely crazy. So tell me how all these hi-sec players prevented you from having fun. Or is it the fact contrary opinions to your world view make you mad?
I'm just calling it like i see it. it is the op who ignorantly asks "Where's the tactics, the excitement, the enjoyment of a big capital space battle???", injecting his own preconceived notions of fun on the matter. A matter that he obviously didn't even participate in.
And yet I don't see you asking HIM "what all those pvp'rs did to prevent him from having fun".....
The kind of double standard you just displayed is typical of the high sec based haters of which I speak.
Contrary opinions are fine, stupid ones are not. |
Una Achura
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:29:00 -
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You are right and my comment was far too short and lacked nuance. Probably because I spent 30 minutes repeating a few RnK vids before posting.
My advice to the OP would still be the same, mainly because RnK vids feature some of the most important bits to capture what OP found lacking (sense of Tactics, excitement etc.), and that is voice comms. With Tidi and a sped up video that becomes impossible ofc. I was very dissapointed when the voice comms switched to music in the Asakai vid when the first blob landed and Tidi set in. It became a lot less interesting to watch. Lots of flashy jump graphics, and a humongous blob, but the sense of what's happening dissapears.
Shorter me: You cannot use a video without voice as the slightest indication of how it felt to be there. |
Captain Tardbar
NEWB ALERT
50
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:34:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Well, not all of us 'Hisec' folk found it boring. Some of these people will whine regardless of what sec they are in. You're right of course, there are haters everywhere, not just in high sec (and we know they are only a crazy fringe of high sec, not nearly everyone). It just boggles my mind that these vocal high sec based haters are so warped that they could look at the best, most epic part of EVE Online and find a way to crap on it. Perhaps they are simply jealous (because nothing THEY will ever do will make real world news) , but whether it is that or something only a real life psychologist would be helpful for, it's still absolutely crazy. So tell me how all these hi-sec players prevented you from having fun. Or is it the fact contrary opinions to your world view make you mad? I'm just calling it like i see it. it is the op who ignorantly asks "Where's the tactics, the excitement, the enjoyment of a big capital space battle???", injecting his own preconceived notions of fun on the matter. A matter that he obviously didn't even participate in. And yet I don't see you asking HIM "what all those pvp'rs did to prevent him from having fun"..... The kind of double standard you just displayed is typical of the high sec based haters of which I speak. Contrary opinions are fine, stupid ones are not.
So you let stupid people make you mad.
I don't know. I've read a lot on the forums and in these hi-sec vs other-sec threads you seem to be pretty vigilant on how hi-sec ruins the game. Its as if everytime someone in hi-sec earns isk, you act its like the banjo music from Delieverence starts playing and miners come out of the wood work to have their way with you.
It something that seems to eat you up inside and can't let it slide. You have to punch the keys!
I know I post a lot and when I do I type a lot (mostly useless stuff) but I don't go around letting people get me angry all the time.
Being so mad all the time can't be healthy. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1219
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:44:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:
So you let stupid people make you mad.
Yes, their existence is offensive to nature. I like nature so screw those guys.
Quote: I don't know. I've read a lot on the forums and in these hi-sec vs other-sec threads you seem to be pretty vigilant on how hi-sec ruins the game. Its as if everytime someone in hi-sec earns isk, you act its like the banjo music from Delieverence starts playing and miners come out of the wood work to have their way with you.
We don't talk about what happened that night in the backwoods of Jita, that was a long time ago and i'm over it.
But seriously. High Sec is a necessary evil at best and i get that. The majority of players there and everywhere are sensible I would think.
But then you8 have the "welfare queens in space" who think they should be totally safe, should never have to risk anything, don't like non-consensual pvp or EVEs death penalty , think that someone bumping them is griefing etc etc. I despise those types in game the same way I dislike leechs in real life.
Quote: It something that seems to eat you up inside and can't let it slide. You have to punch the keys!
I know I post a lot and when I do I type a lot (mostly useless stuff) but I don't go around letting people get me angry all the time.
Being so mad all the time can't be healthy.
I don't care if something is healthy as long as it feels good, which is why I'm chain smoking 4 cuban cigars and drinking malt liquor while typing this. You only live once, might as well post about stupid high sec pubbies before you die.
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Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:46:00 -
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Telrei wrote:I just watched one of the most boring battles ive seen in awhile which is a shame because it could have, should been so much more
That battle was an anomaly given the sheer number of alliances and capitals involved and lowsec is terrible to begin with and has the worst hardware. Most large fleet fights in 0.0 are LOTS of fun. Anywhere from 500-1500 in local runs fairly well and are quite fun. More then 1500 starts to be a little too laggy.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
789
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:48:00 -
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Una Achura wrote: My advice to the OP would still be the same, mainly because RnK vids feature some of the most important bits to capture what OP found lacking (sense of Tactics, excitement etc.), and that is voice comms. With Tidi and a sped up video that becomes impossible ofc. .
I agree there , i love spending the evening watching their vids .I dont wanna sound too gay but i specially like the guy who's doing the talking in them , it's such a sublte and smooth voice you would want him for every ebook out there.
Nice vids , EXcellently explained why they did X and why they didn't do Y.They show big balls , a big knowledge off the game and i especially love how ''calm and decent'' they behave with orders etc during fights''
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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