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Free Machine
First Moon Industries
82
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Posted - 2013.02.24 12:28:00 -
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The Fukuzawa>New Eden Trade Group is offering monthly returns to investors.FULL COLLATERAL AVAILABLE for invested ISK. Please check corp description for info, convo me with any questions.
Saw this in jita local today.
Guess his ending means it ended in MD but still continues on in Jita Local.
Hope his 'shadow' investors find him profitable :) |
Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
26
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Posted - 2013.02.24 16:48:00 -
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Looking in Jita for investors :))
Makes me smile just thinking at it... |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 00:06:00 -
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Free Machine wrote:The Fukuzawa>New Eden Trade Group is offering monthly returns to investors.FULL COLLATERAL AVAILABLE for invested ISK. Please check corp description for info, convo me with any questions.
Saw this in jita local today.
Guess his ending means it ended in MD but still continues on in Jita Local.
Hope his 'shadow' investors find him profitable :)
False statement.
When we have a larger amount of inventory to use as collateral we post on MD. Currently available inventory is low to non existent, but this changes daily, and when it is available we do offer it. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 00:38:00 -
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Heres a true statement
Note the corp the Poster is in Doomheim when you click on his name then show profile, its a new character (recycled)
However the forum still thinks that he was in Doomheim ;), when u click thru u see the new eden trade group.
Should look like this: linky Notice the post date? Opps +31 likes too oops
See heres his new alt:
Quote:CURRENT CORPORATION New Eden Trade Group [NETG1] from 2013.02.08 00:47 to this day PREVIOUS CORPORATION(S) University of Caille [UC] from 2013.02.07 01:38 to 2013.02.08 00:47.
See the date?
All you have to do is search Doomheim & you get lots of interesting results. most are scams, with the doomheim OP being biomassed.
heres one
Get Dunked on Scrubs lol I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:10:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Heres a true statement Note the corp the Poster is in Doomheim when you click on his name then show profile, its a new character (recycled) However the forum still thinks that he was in Doomheim ;), when u click thru u see the new eden trade group. Should look like this: linky Notice the post date? Opps +31 likes too oops See heres his new alt: Quote:CURRENT CORPORATION New Eden Trade Group [NETG1] from 2013.02.08 00:47 to this day PREVIOUS CORPORATION(S) University of Caille [UC] from 2013.02.07 01:38 to 2013.02.08 00:47. See the date? All you have to do is search Doomheim & you get lots of interesting results. most are scams, with the doomheim OP being biomassed. heres oneGet Dunked on Scrubs lol
You are trying to make something out of nothing. The CEO has two accounts, one is dedicated to NETG operations/characters, and the other is the industrial/manufacturing wing that is a separate corp. He biomassed the NETG CEO to switch the toon/name to the other account. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:16:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote: You are trying to make something out of nothing. The CEO has two accounts, one is dedicated to NETG operations/characters, and the other is the industrial/manufacturing wing that is a separate corp. He biomassed the NETG CEO to switch the toon/name to the other account.
Why would you ever biomass a toon, then re-create the same name?
FYI It seems doomheim is the corp CCP puts biomassed characters into so when u google it its suss as hell. at least thats the case with DUST, assume same for eve,
Still biomassing a toon for no reason, other than to hide a corp history problem maybe? + now spamming in local>?
Picture is still valid, MD dunked all over this one lol. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:27:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: You are trying to make something out of nothing. The CEO has two accounts, one is dedicated to NETG operations/characters, and the other is the industrial/manufacturing wing that is a separate corp. He biomassed the NETG CEO to switch the toon/name to the other account.
Why would you ever biomass a toon, then re-create the same name?
Pretty sure he said that the skill points on the toon were not high enough for it to be worth paying transfer fees. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:31:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: You are trying to make something out of nothing. The CEO has two accounts, one is dedicated to NETG operations/characters, and the other is the industrial/manufacturing wing that is a separate corp. He biomassed the NETG CEO to switch the toon/name to the other account.
Why would you ever biomass a toon, then re-create the same name? Pretty sure he said that the skill points on the toon were not high enough for it to be worth paying transfer fees.
RIght, so now the spaming in local is done with a 2 week old scrub alt. gotcha
like i said before NETG = Dunked on. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:36:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: You are trying to make something out of nothing. The CEO has two accounts, one is dedicated to NETG operations/characters, and the other is the industrial/manufacturing wing that is a separate corp. He biomassed the NETG CEO to switch the toon/name to the other account.
Why would you ever biomass a toon, then re-create the same name? Pretty sure he said that the skill points on the toon were not high enough for it to be worth paying transfer fees. RIght, so now the spaming in local is done with a 2 week old scrub alt. gotcha like i said before NETG = Dunked on.
What difference does it make? It only takes a few weeks to train up a decent trader toon. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:38:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote: What difference does it make? It only takes a few weeks to train up a decent trader toon.
Show us some character sheets then.
Actually don't bother, no-one here will ever give you scrubs isk, (collateral or not) anyway, why are we bothering. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
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Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:42:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: What difference does it make? It only takes a few weeks to train up a decent trader toon.
Show us some character sheets then.
Refer to original post. We are not showing any information. We offer full collateral for borrowed isk, which is far better than any evidence that can be offered.
I understand we don't operate to the Market Discussion forum standard, and I know that is the source of all the greif, but it is what it is.
The one standard we are committed to is collateral for borrowed isk. Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:55:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote: Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.
Yes if only all bonds and loans threads are as crystal clear as this,
Where they Don't disclose all the regular character information. (how can we tell they have the skills to trade) Biomass CEO's, then claim they are "training again." not disclose what/where the collateral is, and any detail asto what the values are. spam in local in jita with scrub alts. Get mad in PM's Refuse Api's You jokers re-write the book on MD bonds and loans. please tell us more about how this would be a better place with more **** filled threads like this lol. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:09:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.
Yes if only all bonds and loans threads are as crystal clear as this, Where they Don't disclose all the regular character information. (how can we tell they have the skills to trade) Biomass CEO's, then claim they are "training again." not disclose what/where the collateral is, and any detail asto what the values are. spam in local in jita with scrub alts. Get mad in PM's Refuse Api's You jokers re-write the book on MD bonds and loans. please tell us more about how this would be a better place with more **** filled threads like this lol.
We do disclose where collateral is, and values, it is impossible to do a deal without agreeing on that information.
How is this list above at all relevant when lenders get full collateral for their isk?
We are not rewriting the book on anything, we are sticking to what we offer and provide full security for loans. Are you arguing that full collateral isnt the best way to decrease risk in deals? Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
407
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:09:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: Market Discussion would be a better place if all who are seeking loans did the same.
Yes if only all bonds and loans threads are as crystal clear as this, Where they Don't disclose all the regular character information. (how can we tell they have the skills to trade) Biomass CEO's, then claim they are "training again." not disclose what/where the collateral is, and any detail asto what the values are. spam in local in jita with scrub alts. Get mad in PM's Refuse Api's You jokers re-write the book on MD bonds and loans. please tell us more about how this would be a better place with more **** filled threads like this lol.
Its more like 1 or 2 guys or girls that im tracking a heaping pile of alts to. There was a very acute and very heavy spike in Scamming when a certain familiar face showed up online on my watch list. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:11:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location.
Perfect business plan tbh. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:15:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location. Perfect business plan tbh.
If you are serious about making a deal, then we disclose all information to you. It is impossible to make a deal without disclosing where collateral is.
Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. <---New sig, I have a lot of post editing to do. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:25:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location. Perfect business plan tbh. If you are serious about making a deal, then we disclose all information to you. It is impossible to make a deal without disclosing where collateral is. Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. <---New sig, I have a lot of post editing to do.
Ok im serious about making a deal, please disclose. (here) I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 02:46:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
Agreed, but no-one here will ever know what yours is, its value or location. Perfect business plan tbh. If you are serious about making a deal, then we disclose all information to you. It is impossible to make a deal without disclosing where collateral is. Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. <---New sig, I have a lot of post editing to do. Ok im serious about making a deal, please disclose. (here)
Please refer to the original post where it states to contact me over evemail or in game convo to discuss deal specifics if you are interested.
Like i said, we are sticking to what we are offering in the original post. Considering the fact that you are on Market Discussion forums seeking uncollateralized isk to fund your own market ventures, I highly doubt you are truly interested in making a deal.
Nothing holds more weight than full collateral |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 03:00:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote: Nothing holds more weight than full collateral
You know the forum actually has a signature function right?
Oh and nice of you to notice my iCandy bond threads, they sure fill quickly don't they!.
Its amazing what a little disclosure will do for you,
Oh but don't worry, you guys go ahead and protect your market gems. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 04:07:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: Nothing holds more weight than full collateral
You know the forum actually has a signature function right? Oh and nice of you to notice my iCandy bond threads, they sure fill quickly don't they!. Its amazing what a little disclosure will do for you, Oh but don't worry, you guys go ahead and protect your market gems.
So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?
Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. |
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Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
128
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Posted - 2013.02.25 04:19:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote: So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?
Nothing holds more weight than full collateral.
Click on your name at the top of the forums then profitle settings forum settings edit signature, paste in your "nothing holds more weight that full collateral" then click save settings. Congrats u now have a forum signature.
I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Free Machine
First Moon Industries
82
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:54:00 -
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Love how scammers can lie their way through anything in MD :) |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
155
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Posted - 2013.02.25 13:33:00 -
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Free Machine wrote:Love how scammers can lie their way through anything in MD :)
It would not be MD without them...
We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
Agent Eunoli
BRAB0
65
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:20:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote: So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?
I'd like to do a deal.
Please provide a list of your collateral and what amount you are currently looking for.
I have my suspicions about your "group" that you are scammers who have no actual market plan but I am willing to be proven wrong.
Cinematic HD EVE Movies: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveEunoli/ |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:27:00 -
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Ethan Freeman wrote:
So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?.
Actually - funny you bring this up - I am still waiting over a week for an in-game mail regarding a fully collaterlized loan sent to your associate Ash Holloway.
Not that I am surprised to hear nothing, just strange that you are looking to fill from others before replying (in-game or through other means) to already existing serious investors.
Unless of course you are just trying to use the collaterilized "offering" as a rep-grinding excersice to make unclooarelized offers look more legit. Then the behaviour is quite logical and not strange at all...
I will let the rest of MD think themselves what is strange and what is not.. |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 21:25:00 -
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Tom Hagen wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote:
So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?.
Actually - funny you bring this up - I am still waiting over a week for an in-game mail regarding a fully collaterlized loan sent to your associate Ash Holloway. Not that I am surprised to hear nothing, just strange that you are looking to fill from others before replying (in-game or through other means) to already existing serious investors. Unless of course you are just trying to use the collaterilized "offering" as a rep-grinding excersice to make unclooarelized offers look more legit. Then the behaviour is quite logical and not strange at all... I will let the rest of MD think themselves what is strange and what is not..
Checked with Ash, he sent you a mail at 2013.02.19 04:14, you never responded.
Razor Rob made this exact same claim earlier in the thread, and it is completely false.
Nothing holds more weight than full collateral. |
Ethan Freeman
New Eden Trade Group
1
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Posted - 2013.02.25 21:32:00 -
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Agent Eunoli wrote:Ethan Freeman wrote: So I'm guessing we are not doing a deal?
I'd like to do a deal. Please provide a list of your collateral and what amount you are currently looking for. I have my suspicions about your "group" that you are scammers who have no actual market plan but I am willing to be proven wrong.
A NETG member will shoot you an evemail.
Nothing holds more weight than full collateral |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.02.28 15:40:00 -
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I am sorry. That is correct, This statement are totally true. "Checked with Ash, he sent you a mail at 2013.02.19 04:14, you never responded."
Unfortunately I have been really busy IRL. Maybe that was the reason why I missed Ash answer also I will just go and hide in a corner in shame, and just let this serve as a friendly bump for now
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Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
164
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Posted - 2013.02.28 17:29:00 -
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Tom Hagen wrote:I am sorry. That is correct, This statement are totally true. "Checked with Ash, he sent you a mail at 2013.02.19 04:14, you never responded." Unfortunately I have been really busy IRL. Maybe that was the reason why I missed Ash answer also I will just go and hide in a corner in shame, and just let this serve as a friendly bump for now
Tom what are you doing |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.02.28 18:01:00 -
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Alex Grison wrote:
Tom what are you doing
Just being truthful about how things have played out. While I still have my thoughts on the general viability of NETG and would not invest un-collateralized in any of their bonds, the truth is that they did answer to my mail and that they did offer collateral - and things should be put right I think. I can admit an error (Good thing I make them so rarely )
On the note of the collateral - it was a valid collateral, but not one which I am interested at holding currently, hence I am also not interested currently to invest into the collateralized bond-offering
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