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Cyrus Zane
EVE Corporation 2542566779
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:40:00 -
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I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:50:00 -
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Some may think you need to play it as such. But there are many aspects of eve, that early skill sets can easily be accomplished with.
The main thing to remember, is that player skillz are just as, if not more important as skills are. Take the time to learn the game while you build up the required extra skill sets.
Edit: Oh and welcome to Eve.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1467
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:58:00 -
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skill training should not influence your gameplay. Its just something which runs in the background. If all you do is to wait for your skills to complete you will have a very bad eve experience and probably quit.
Figure out what you want to do as spaceship pilot and do it, if you can't do it right now find a corp which can help with it. But do not wait for your skills to catch up. a eve-style bounty system (done)-á dust boarding parties You fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
411
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:58:00 -
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You can play EvE 20 hours a day, you can play 1 hour every month.
It's up to you. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Caldari Citizen 20120308
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:02:00 -
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Mag's wrote:The main thing to remember, is that player skillz are just as, if not more important as skills are. Take the time to learn the game while you build up the required extra skill sets. Edit: Oh and welcome to Eve.
How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
To the Op's question, don't rmember much when I first started other than plopping some skills into queue and logging. Did do a few missions here and there but didn't play long starting out. Granted they did improve on the introduction for new players and the tutorials so you might want to check that out. |
Dewa Cinta
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:06:00 -
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If you are lost try joining EvE University, it is a player-made corp in the game dedicated to helping new players out. |
Dewa Cinta
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:07:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote: How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
Maybe the fact that you need to actually set up the planetary systems? |
Caldari Citizen 20120308
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:09:00 -
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Dewa Cinta wrote:If you are lost try joining EvE University, it is a player-made corp in the game dedicated to helping new players out.
Good luck trying to join. Screening process takes a week with a written application and voice chat with someone. Next thing you know you're getting a call from the CIA's secret service.
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Caldari Citizen 20120308
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:10:00 -
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Dewa Cinta wrote:Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote: How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
Maybe the fact that you need to actually set up the planetary systems?
Thank goodness for Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnObxB9XCs |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
141
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:12:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out.
You can play it as long as you wish. I remember my first week, i was ninja salvaging, 8 hours a day. Inside mining barge, true story |
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Dewa Cinta
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:13:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:Dewa Cinta wrote:If you are lost try joining EvE University, it is a player-made corp in the game dedicated to helping new players out. Good luck trying to join. Screening process takes a week with a written application and voice chat with someone. Next thing you know you're getting a call from the CIA's secret service.
Not really.
Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:Dewa Cinta wrote:Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote: How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
Maybe the fact that you need to actually set up the planetary systems? Thank goodness for Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnObxB9XCs
Cool, how did you get a youtube video to set up your PI for you? Please teach. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
203
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:24:00 -
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Play 6 to 8 hours a day, preferably while at work or school, with your EVE session safely tucked away in the background in case your "boss" or teacher strolls by.
You'll be winning EVE in no time.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
4063
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:27:00 -
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Dewa Cinta wrote:Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:Dewa Cinta wrote:Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote: How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
Maybe the fact that you need to actually set up the planetary systems? Thank goodness for Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnObxB9XCs Cool, how did you get a youtube video to set up your PI for you? Please teach. Perhaps he thinks, that player skills that are taught don't count as player skills for some odd reason. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1219
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:34:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression.
If you like other MMOs, you'll HATE EVE.
CCp should make this a pop up you get when you try to DL EVE :) .
But seriously, other mmos make you the human equivalent to a hamster on a wheel with all that stupid "leveling", EVE says "screw the wheel, figure out how to bust out of this cage and make the humans who delight in watching you run on a wheel and crap in your cage PAY for their insolence"!!
This is why I prefer EVE |
Aza Ebanu
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
9
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:37:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out. CCP used to give players a few basic skills that made them "able", but reduced the new player starting skills because they wanted to make things more harsh. The devs hate you... Oh and welcome to EVE Online. |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
218
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:12:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out.
One of the best part of EvE is just that do not enforce your character progression to some in game grinding. I remember when I started to play EvE (coming from other MMORPG) the sense of freedom coming from this. You can do whatever you want and like at the moment, also silly things, you're not forced in something for your character grow |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3430
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:22:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out. Consider placing less emphasis on the acquisition of new skills and more emphasis on enjoying all of the things you can do with what you have. The personal skills you acquire through experiencing game play weigh very heavily in the balance. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3430
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:25:00 -
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Quote:How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
You can be shown the basics of setting up PI and acquire the learned skills to do so, but it requires a experimentation and skill to learn how to optimize a particular planets resources for optimal gain.
The skill in hauling comes in learning what to haul and what NOT to haul, and how to avoid hostile encounters while doing so. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:44:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:Mag's wrote:The main thing to remember, is that player skillz are just as, if not more important as skills are. Take the time to learn the game while you build up the required extra skill sets. Edit: Oh and welcome to Eve. How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe. To the Op's question, don't rmember much when I first started other than plopping some skills into queue and logging. Did do a few missions here and there but didn't play long starting out. Granted they did improve on the introduction for new players and the tutorials so you might want to check that out.
cool, so I'm just going to haul plex in a shuttle out of jita through the fastest route to a system in lowsec to sell to a station where there is a guy who is also selling plex for 10% less than I am even though there is a buy order for 10% more than the regional average. I mean who sells something lower but has a buy order for higher, does he hate money? |
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
9
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:48:00 -
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Its meant to be played atleast 3-4 hours a day. It depends on what you choose to do.
Eve is really addictive because it is so slow in the beginning. The fastest way to skill up is by buying a toon. To buy a toon you need isk and there are several ways to get onto alooot of isk. Knowlage, $$$ or hard game labour. Knowlage, playing the markets make billions a month saves lots of years training. Thyeres lots more to it |
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Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
137
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:57:00 -
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Aslong time eve player, i can say this: You can play eve as much or as little as you want. When my addiction was at its worse, i was paying easy 10 hours a day, even more on weekends.. If i was not working, i wasprobably in eve.... Now years later i play on average just 2-3hours a day.
Dont worry about skills, what ever you want to do in eve, theres only limited skill set on that huge tree that helps on spicific task. Its more important for you to learn how eve works. The real gameing skill. Thats what turns 2 day old alt character to killing machine. [Insert something funny or smart here]
Good lord has set me on path, sometimes im confused about what he wants from me. But path leads on, towards why he placed me on this wonderfull planet... |
Usagi Toshiro
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:02:00 -
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I work a full time day job and have a family. I play 1-3 hours a night most nights after the kid is in bed. I still find EVE fulfilling. You set your own pace in EVE. Some activities are time intensive some are set and forget. All depends on your fancy.
Cheers and welcome to New Eden!
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Skeln Thargensen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:07:00 -
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what everyone else said.
and if you get frustrated at the skill training time then log out. Or try and time the week long + skills to coincide with leaving for a lovely holiday somewhere. I take back my previous statements and judgements of others. -áyou can mine in iteron if you want. |
Leetha Layne
62
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:11:00 -
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For many reasons, EVE is a different mindset than other MMOS. You will get the feel for it fairly quickly. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:43:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:Mag's wrote:The main thing to remember, is that player skillz are just as, if not more important as skills are. Take the time to learn the game while you build up the required extra skill sets. Edit: Oh and welcome to Eve. How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe. To the Op's question, don't rmember much when I first started other than plopping some skills into queue and logging. Did do a few missions here and there but didn't play long starting out. Granted they did improve on the introduction for new players and the tutorials so you might want to check that out.
What a load of rubbish from this guy. There are plenty of things you can do with little or no skills. Ninja salvaging is an obvious one, but there is much much more. An active corp will also have many many uses for a new upcoming player, particularly with the new buff to the tier one frigates.
And to say Planetary Interaction required little skill just shows you really do know nothing about what you are talking about, a new player could spend weeks learning how to maximise the output from the planets which they have set their colonies up at. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
725
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:45:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out. In EVE ISK is a lot more useful than currency is in most other MMOs - most notably you can use it to buy game time and complete characters (both from other players only, not from ccp directly).
in practice you can always find a use for "more ISK" and you will usually find a way to convert "more time spent playing" into "more isk" I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
99
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:59:00 -
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Cyrus Zane wrote:I am brand new and I have played many MMOs and they are about progression. It seems like skill training is slow, is this game meant to be played maybe 1 hour a day or so you can train and set queues and log?
Just trying to figure the game out.
Tutorials are a grind, but you need to do them. After that? Yes, it takes a few minutes for the lower level skills to complete. After that? You have to work for what you want. Kind of like RL, isn't it?
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Corey Fumimasa
The Advent of Faith
75
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:02:00 -
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Trin Javidan wrote:Its meant to be played atleast 3-4 hours a day. It depends on what you choose to do.
Eve is really addictive because it is so slow in the beginning. The fastest way to skill up is by buying a toon. To buy a toon you need isk and there are several ways to get onto alooot of isk. Knowlage, $$$ or hard game labour. Knowlage, playing the markets make billions a month saves lots of years training. Thyeres lots more to it
Worst advice I have ever seen.
This is a youtube playlist going over my first 30 ship losses. Video sucks but the audio came out well.There are some good lessons, and if you know the game there's some funny stories. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3595
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:07:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Dewa Cinta wrote:Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote:Dewa Cinta wrote:Caldari Citizen 20120308 wrote: How is player's skill just as important as sp. What skill is involved in Planetary interaction? What skill is involved in hauling goods from one station to another. If it's the pvp aspect, maybe.
Maybe the fact that you need to actually set up the planetary systems? Thank goodness for Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKnObxB9XCs Cool, how did you get a youtube video to set up your PI for you? Please teach. Perhaps he thinks, that player skills that are taught don't count as player skills for some odd reason. "This video showed me how to solo 5 battleships with an Ishkur. That means soloing 5 battleships with an Ishkur isn't hard, right?" Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3595
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:10:00 -
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Anyway, the best part about EVE's long skill training is that sense of accomplishment when you're finally able to do something new and fun.
I just started flying dictors after finally finishing propulsion jamming 5, and in battle they're a lot of fun to fly, trying to stay alive and yet keep the enemy fleet trapped. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
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