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Kin Netics
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:21:00 -
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Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2013.01.31 18:44:00 -
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Planetary Interaction perhaps
oh and frigate warfare with RvB |
Kin Netics
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:02:00 -
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Klymer wrote:Planetary Interaction perhaps
oh and frigate warfare with RvB
Those are good suggestions. Thanks!
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1783
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:13:00 -
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I'm not really an expert at making money in EVE, but one way to keep your expenditures down is to PvP in frigates. Mane 614
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Kin Netics
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:24:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:I'm not really an expert at making money in EVE, but one way to keep your expenditures down is to PvP in frigates.
RvB warfare looks fun. For some reason I forgot about frigs and have been fitting t2 BC's for like idk 125mil a pop which I couldn't sustain. Losing aton of frigs however is sustainable. |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
821
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:31:00 -
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If you are just flying t1 frigates that will cost about 10 mill a pop then you can get over 50 of them for the cost of a plex.
RvB would be a good place to send them.
Or go to a fw area. GCC has been eliminated so you can get more targets if you stay neutral. (also you will be able to dock in any stations you want) You will just get sentry guns if you fight on stargates or stations. (generally not a good idea anyway)
I woudln't get them all at once if you are new to pvp though. As you may change your fittings as you start to learn things.
I make decent money buy buying 2xs what I need at jita bringing it down to a major base and then selling the half I don't need at large profit margin over jita prices. Sometimes in eve you need money to make money.
Plus you should occassionally win and be able to collect the loot. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Kin Netics
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 19:38:00 -
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Cearain wrote:
Plus you should occasionally win and be able to collect the loot.
Lots of good suggestions thanks and this above quote made me lol at my desk!
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Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
229
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:19:00 -
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I'd go with FW is you are time/isk limited.
You can have tons of fun with just frigs and easily sustain yourself. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2880
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:44:00 -
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Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.
I do it by flying ships that are cheap and killing ships that are expensive. These are my latest losses: 8x Condor 5x Executioner 2x Harpy 2x Taranis 2x Atron Tormentor Cyclone Armageddon Thrasher Hawk Vengeance
( http://kb.heretic-army.biz/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=835925604&view=losses )
-Liang
Ed: My ISK comes from updating 20 or so market orders once a month. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
220
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Posted - 2013.02.01 00:17:00 -
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Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.
I've similar free time, maybe one hour/day during week and som more during WE. FW is perfect, and give you a chance to easly support your loss.
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Kin Netics
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.01 03:43:00 -
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Thanks for all the tips hopefully other new pilots will read this and it will help them transition into pvp. I've already fitted about 8 frigs. Tackle, ECM, and regular dps/tank. Basically what I got out of this was; fly cheap ships when you are starting out, gain some type of passive income, pirating is a quick pvp fix and bountiful, and l2trade and not farm! Thanks yall, I have a direction and goals now :) It is easy to get effing lost in this game! |
adriaans
Ankaa. Nair Al-Zaurak
2
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Posted - 2013.02.01 04:02:00 -
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One annoyance with FW is the great length people go to avoid fighting you, or well me at least. I recently came back after a break, and last few days I have had more gangs RUN AWAY from me in a SOLO rupture than I probably had monthly before I left....
We're talking me vs multiple people odds too... (pretty much all the time too)
And the few I did manage to catch, had such insane nano fits they **** outran my overheated mwd rupture....
Or is FW plexes not how to do it? (I'm not joining one side, I like more people to shoot than eliminate half of them)
Except 11-12 motherships and a guy with a backup Rook that decloaked before I returned fire, I have not had anyone really try and engage me on gates either (I'm outlaw ANYONE can shoot me just fine).
Given most of the advice here on forums I've read says FW I returned to minmatar low-sec, but so far I have been left with woefully little fights to show for it.
At this rate I might even get my first ship that survives it's insurance period... ----True oldschool solo pvp'er---- My latest vid: Insanity IV |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1048
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:02:00 -
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Awox people, it costs virtually nothing, you rarely lose a ship and the tears you get are incredible. |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
229
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Posted - 2013.02.01 07:59:00 -
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I have found that FW'ers will be more likely to fight if you are a WT but just run if you are a neutral (pirate)
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |
Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
234
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:47:00 -
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I have also not much time to play this game which means that I am absolutely not willing to spend my precious time on farming ISK or something like this. However, I found Faction Warefare a very good way to a) earn ISK while b) doing PVP!
The key to success is:
- Fly only cheap stuff, like faction frigates (with you get cheaply from your LP store) or T1/T2 Frigates.
- Fit only T2 modules, avoid fitting with faction or dead space modules. Only exception are faction modules which you can cheaply get from your LP store.
- Go with friends, this raises your survivability significantly. If solo then you really should only engage what provides you good chances to win. Keeping own losses low is key.
- Do not forget to loot the wrecks. Salvaging T2 wrecks can also gain you a lot of ISK.
- If you get low on ISK or all WT are hiding then start running plexes offensively or defensively until next PVP action comes to you.
- If enough LP and you short on ISK then start trading LP for stuff which you trade at a trade hub.
Usually if you manage to do points 1 to 4 successfully you even will not need to go to points 5 and 6 which are the "fall back solution". |
Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
254
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Posted - 2013.02.01 08:57:00 -
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OFC it is possible ... pirate in FW space ... no rush about loosing ur stuff in locked station, plenty of targets and easy isk if u make capturing alt which will orbit buttons for you.
http://h1ss.eve-kill.net/?a=home&m=1&y=2013 |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
519
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Posted - 2013.02.01 10:40:00 -
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Go pirate if you're a man Fw if you're a scrub And rvb if you're a scrub thats afraid of low sec
No all kidding aside, I'd say rvb untill you have at least 40 kills and 20 losses. FW until you have double that.
(Or you can do what i did and join a really good pvp corp and start flying with them, but that is more of a jumping in on the deep end thing)
If you really want to pvp though thing number 1. 2 and 3 is GET THE **** OUT OF HIGHSEC, Don't believe what anyone tells you, high sec pvp is ******* terrible. |
Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
255
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Posted - 2013.02.01 10:45:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Go pirate if you're a man Fw if you're a scrub And rvb if you're a scrub thats afraid of low sec
No all kidding aside, I'd say rvb untill you have at least 40 kills and 20 losses. FW until you have double that.
(Or you can do what i did and join a really good pvp corp and start flying with them, but that is more of a jumping in on the deep end thing)
If you really want to pvp though thing number 1. 2 and 3 is GET THE **** OUT OF HIGHSEC, Don't believe what anyone tells you, high sec pvp is ******* terrible.
(Edit also note if you go -5 and have issues with logistics, it only takes 1-2 weeks to train a on account alt to use a hauler properly and then you can use him to buy stuff in jita and haul it to a low sec border system. You can then pick it up there yourself with your main (Faction police can't catch anything))
joining blob corp is not good idea for start ... u will not learn a **** ....
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dexington
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
559
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:00:00 -
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Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.
Faction warfare.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
255
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:21:00 -
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dexington wrote:Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. Faction warfare.
actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk. |
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dexington
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
559
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Posted - 2013.02.01 11:39:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:dexington wrote:Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. Faction warfare. actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.
I've only been in FW for less then a months, but if you are looking to PvP without having to commit to joining a corp or just want to solo, i think it good fun. You can fly cheap ships, the complex gate mechanic makes fights more predictable then low-sec gates, and you get isk while you camp the gate.
I'm sure you can make more isk outside FW, i know i did, but with a limited schedule i think FW is the best option. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
79
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:04:00 -
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Casual PvP is easy to come by.
Usually I'm not even wearing pants... |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
519
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:22:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Go pirate if you're a man Fw if you're a scrub And rvb if you're a scrub thats afraid of low sec
No all kidding aside, I'd say rvb untill you have at least 40 kills and 20 losses. FW until you have double that.
(Or you can do what i did and join a really good pvp corp and start flying with them, but that is more of a jumping in on the deep end thing)
If you really want to pvp though thing number 1. 2 and 3 is GET THE **** OUT OF HIGHSEC, Don't believe what anyone tells you, high sec pvp is ******* terrible.
(Edit also note if you go -5 and have issues with logistics, it only takes 1-2 weeks to train a on account alt to use a hauler properly and then you can use him to buy stuff in jita and haul it to a low sec border system. You can then pick it up there yourself with your main (Faction police can't catch anything)) joining blob corp is not good idea for start ... u will not learn a **** .... no offence to BYDI ... was good corp in past, but SDHC is blob or nothing.
Yea.. BYDI does mostly small gang/solo frig/cruiser roams as a corp while joining alliance blobbing every once in a while..
(Excluding a couple of guys who spend way too much time farming the lisb noob traffic <.<)
Also when i started flying with BYDI it wasn't in SC |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
41
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:36:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:dexington wrote:Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. Faction warfare. actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.
I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits. |
Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
255
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Posted - 2013.02.01 13:23:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:dexington wrote:Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. Faction warfare. actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk. I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits.
I am talking about global system capture and tiers mechanics .... plexes are quite good and ballanced now and encourage limited small scale pvp ... |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
519
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Posted - 2013.02.01 14:35:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:dexington wrote:Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. Faction warfare. actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk. I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits. I am talking about global system capture and tiers mechanics .... plexes are quite good and ballanced now and encourage limited small scale pvp ...
The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever |
Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
257
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Posted - 2013.02.01 15:06:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Faction warfare.
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The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever
was allways like this and yes it allows u to fight the bait and still sruvive in case blob arrives ... i feel more important that u cannot light cyno on the plex grid.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
823
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Posted - 2013.02.01 16:05:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:I have found that FW'ers will be more likely to fight if you are a WT but just run if you are a neutral (pirate)
I haven't noticed any difference. If people want to fight they do, it's just that most don't. By being able to fight all militias you definitely increase your pvp opportunities. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
823
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Posted - 2013.02.01 16:14:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:dexington wrote:Kin Netics wrote:Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them. Faction warfare. actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk. I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits.
No gate guns unless you are fighting on a gate or by a station. Neither is generally a good idea unless you are playing station games, gate camping, or in a blob. The good fights are at the plexes.
The sec status hits are capped at -5 unless you start podding people.
CCP did some seriously good work fixing crimewatch for low sec pvpers. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
528
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Posted - 2013.02.02 01:06:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Faction warfare.
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The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever
was allways like this and yes it allows u to fight the bait and still sruvive in case blob arrives ... i feel more important that u cannot light cyno on the plex grid.
everything about them is in the favor of the small guy
You cannot warp TO anyone so you can't suddenly have 20 guys dropped on your head if you're careful, you can split up gangs, control ship types
its just a fantastic mechanic
But yes the cyno thing is huge. |
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