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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.11.09 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 00:16:46
Originally by: oidalia actually its up to the mapmaker/the community and well SA territory is for sure contested (that doesnt need any claims of G or Iron).
Actually, I disagree.
It's up to the corps involved to inform Joshua if they are contesting a region or not.
G/Iron might be there for a roadtrip, they might be there to stay.
Without an alliance informing the public of a serious intention to take over a region then it isn't being contested.
I am sure they will let the community know if they are intending on doing so.
oh and chicken lamer alts shouldn't have a say either way.
dbp
I disagree on both points, if the mapmaker decides there is conflict it up to him. Please don't be arragont, so u post with ur main, others psot with alts. And thats ur business why?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.09 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/11/2005 08:33:22
Originally by: oidalia i consider 30+ G POS in SA's outpost system more than a road trip but whatever this whole "contested" thing is anyways kinda useless because its changing so often and so fast that the map can hardly show whats really happening.
If they have 30+ POS in the outpost system then sounds to me like they wanna kill the outpost.
So yes, that would be an extended roadtrip and not contesting the region.
Not really sure why this is so hard to understand tbh, if G say they are or are not contesting a region then you can't really argue with that.
Jorz: leave the smaktalk out unless you have something to contribute to the map thread, there are plenty of other random threads in here to wee over.
dbp
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.09 14:42:00 -
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PA are no longer in control of their region, we are.
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.09 15:42:00 -
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Smash alliance have vacated FE space entirly. There last pos in d7-zac was abandond and destroyed. No smash v FE warzone marker is needed. |
Soul Redemption
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Posted - 2005.11.09 16:44:00 -
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bob does not control the outer ring region its a very much disputet area
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oidalia
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Posted - 2005.11.09 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Not really sure why this is so hard to understand tbh, if G say they are or are not contesting a region then you can't really argue with that.
dbp
well i thought the map is there to show what is actually going on and not to show what the alliance PR departments want the public to know. But like i said it would be better to scrap this whole "contested" thing alltogether because there is no way to measure it.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.09 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Soul Redemption bob does not control the outer ring region its a very much disputet area
*sigh*
Please check Page 2 of this thread before you post.
Specifically the part where any official posts will be made by Takagamu for NORAD.
Thanks, dbp
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: dabster on 09/11/2005 18:41:28 omg the world is going to end now...i agree with DB preacher :(
Without trying to sound too offensive....HELLOOOOO RETARDS!!11!1? A region isnt contested until somebody fuxking says "we are hereby contesting this region, it is our intentions to make it ours".
HOW ON EARTH CAN THAT BE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??!?
EDIT; sorry for overusage of capslock, i normally dont do this :/ ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |
oidalia
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Posted - 2005.11.09 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Edited by: dabster on 09/11/2005 18:41:28 omg the world is going to end now...i agree with DB preacher :(
Without trying to sound too offensive....HELLOOOOO RETARDS!!11!1? A region isnt contested until somebody fuxking says "we are hereby contesting this region, it is our intentions to make it ours".
HOW ON EARTH CAN THAT BE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??!?
EDIT; sorry for overusage of capslock, i normally dont do this :/
how about actions say more than words? I often see ppl saying a lot and then it isnt even a real try to contest something and then we have other cases where ppl say nothing and simply really do something. So should the map show what is really going on or rather just show what a few ppl tell us?
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2005.11.09 19:09:00 -
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Oidalia, it seems you are not aware that the mapmaker is in contact with most of the alliances' diplomats or representatives in-game.
Most alliances do not post here simply because they don't care or do not wish to incite the flamebait. --
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dabster
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Posted - 2005.11.09 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: oidalia
Originally by: dabster Edited by: dabster on 09/11/2005 18:41:28 omg the world is going to end now...i agree with DB preacher :(
Without trying to sound too offensive....HELLOOOOO RETARDS!!11!1? A region isnt contested until somebody fuxking says "we are hereby contesting this region, it is our intentions to make it ours".
HOW ON EARTH CAN THAT BE SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND??!?
EDIT; sorry for overusage of capslock, i normally dont do this :/
how about actions say more than words? I often see ppl saying a lot and then it isnt even a real try to contest something and then we have other cases where ppl say nothing and simply really do something. So should the map show what is really going on or rather just show what a few ppl tell us?
omg you really are retarded.
CONTESTING means stating how your intentions are to CONTEST something. WAR is so much simpler to define, go in and blow **** up or put up some POS's for fun or to **** people off. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |
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Laurelin1420
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Posted - 2005.11.09 23:38:00 -
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Please remember that this thread is for map change requests.If you wish to discuss anything else regarding corps/alliances ,there are discussion forums close-by.
Thanks :)
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bety yarr
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Posted - 2005.11.10 03:22:00 -
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just wanted to inform you that from what i hear and saw F-E space is way to big, they havent been in control of Geminite and some parts of vale of silent for a long time now.
so i recomend you put geminate region as a Free for all or unclaimed. you dont want to you to give an impresion that F-E controls it, so when F-E friends come by they get ganked.
otherwise it seems like an awsome map, keep up the good work
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.10 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: bety yarr just wanted to inform you that from what i hear and saw F-E space is way to big, they havent been in control of Geminite and some parts of vale of silent for a long time now.
so i recomend you put geminate region as a Free for all or unclaimed. you dont want to you to give an impresion that F-E controls it, so when F-E friends come by they get ganked.
otherwise it seems like an awsome map, keep up the good work
lol. don't control it eh? Thats why you had to post this with a 4 day old alt instead of your main? |
bety yarr
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Posted - 2005.11.10 18:26:00 -
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yarrr, u know its true
come over and will talk yarrrrrrrrrr,yarr, go get some sunny
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:23:00 -
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Esoteria should have a huge war marker over it to say the least. Contested would be a better word but you would have to convo someone higher than me to see if that would be correct. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.11 08:18:00 -
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Mate. I don't want to be a ***** about this. But in the timeframe since last update. Events have come to change several times. This map fails to keep pace whit the changing events in eve. I suddest if your able to. Make a dynamic map. Please. Flash or something similar. It will take some doing. But it will also be much easier to change. I know your working hard to keep the map updated. And I applaude you for that. But do you yourself feel that it's keeping up? SoonÖ
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.11.11 09:06:00 -
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map shouldent change for something htats there one day... then gone the next... it should change to long term events.
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Dawson
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Posted - 2005.11.11 09:27:00 -
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Dynamic map would be nice, should be very doable in flash.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.11.11 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Agil Scout on 11/11/2005 10:14:15
Originally by: Muthsera Mate. I don't want to be a ***** about this. But in the timeframe since last update. Events have come to change several times. This map fails to keep pace whit the changing events in eve. I suddest if your able to. Make a dynamic map. Please. Flash or something similar. It will take some doing. But it will also be much easier to change. I know your working hard to keep the map updated. And I applaude you for that. But do you yourself feel that it's keeping up?
Mabye the dude just has a RL, xmass is just around the corner he might be busy.
Originally by: Dawson Dynamic map would be nice, should be very doable in flash.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.11.11 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera Mate. I don't want to be a ***** about this. But in the timeframe since last update. Events have come to change several times. This map fails to keep pace whit the changing events in eve. I suddest if your able to. Make a dynamic map. Please. Flash or something similar. It will take some doing. But it will also be much easier to change. I know your working hard to keep the map updated. And I applaude you for that. But do you yourself feel that it's keeping up?
If an alliance cant support their claims for 2 weeks, theyre not worth mentioning on the map. Which is exactly why its only updated once every 2 weeks. ------------------
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.11 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
If an alliance cant support their claims for 2 weeks, theyre not worth mentioning on the map. Which is exactly why its only updated once every 2 weeks.
I can in large part agree whit that. But such developments that are really massive that have been going on lately have not been established on the map to follow that development. You can disagree whit the extent that one should be able to claim space. But most notably the span of three weeks that have been, severe situations have occured. The map does not reflect this. Sorry to say. Such as risk disputing branch heavily and the changes during the stain war. Red alliance pushing 5. 5 disputing venal now for two weeks. I'm sorry but it just don't reflect what is going on. It doens't take up development that well either. Justifing it whit "if an alliance isn't able to hold a region for longer than two weeks it's not worth reporting" I think that shouldn't be the goal of the map. It should be to give a clear picture of the situation, as good as it can be. It might not be an objective for an alliance to dispute the region either. It should be the maps responsability to reflect what is doing on. Not just ownership. Others might disagree on that. But if you have a dynamic map you can atleast do the changes you want much more quickly.
I atleast use the map as a situation awareness gathering. I don't take everything there are established facts for the situation right now. I don't let that have the basis of my total info gathering. But it sets the premesisses. I don't want to focus on this better. I just though I voice my opinion about it. It's your choice as a map maker to do the changes if you like. Your doing a good job at it though. Even though I feel it takes a bit long sometimes.
I'll shut up now. SoonÖ
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.11 13:53:00 -
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2 weeks is fine.
If anyone is interested in any changes since the last map then all they need to do is read this thread (which is cropped at each map update).
dbp
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Naurhir
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Posted - 2005.11.11 18:37:00 -
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It's his map, not yours, get over it. The map has no responsibilities that the artist / author does not give it.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2005.11.11 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Naurhir It's his map, not yours, get over it. The map has no responsibilities that the artist / author does not give it.
Well. I don't belive that mate. But feel free to disagree. SoonÖ
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.11 22:58:00 -
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If you want a clear view of the diplomatic situation (who is angry at who), then go to the Diplomacy Table. They're eager to update often. As Josh said, disputing a region must be a serious effort. If you're just attacking someone, then... no the map isn't for you.
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2005.11.12 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin If you want a clear view of the diplomatic situation (who is angry at who), then go to the Diplomacy Table. They're eager to update often. As Josh said, disputing a region must be a serious effort. If you're just attacking someone, then... no the map isn't for you.
So taking over one station for around 2 weeks and another for a couple days is not seriously contesting an area? --------
A pretty girl can kiss a guy, a bird can kiss a butterfly. Teh rising sun can kiss the grass, but you my friend can kiss my A**E! |
Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/11/2005 14:40:59
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
So taking over one station for around 2 weeks and another for a couple days is not seriously contesting an area?
Correct...
manage it for around 3 - 4 weeks and then you are deserving of a spot on the map...
The amount of work that goes into updating the map means changes over a 2 week timespan are irrelevant tbh.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.11.12 15:56:00 -
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CVA and Huzzah claimed space is full contested warzone. War has been ongoing for over a month between Huzzah Federation + CVA vs The Priory + TSDS. HF and CVA control of and movement through these areas is severely limited and as such should be represented on the map. Please :)
See www.piracy4tw.com for war stats. The warzone isnt the providence bit with the warning sign but the empire area covered in the CVA red box thingy :)
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Lexa A
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Posted - 2005.11.13 03:35:00 -
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FOE claimed ifj- and s-n http://www.eve-files.com/media/11/banner_1_mk_2.bmp
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