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P1ng
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:50:00 -
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in the last few weeks i have noticed that the ravens popularity has gone severly down! i dont like this because i have allwyas been a big fan of the raven and i dislike the idea that i have been training up cladri for some time now and i think its all been a big waste of time! i think that ravens should be un nerfd and get its place back at being the kick as bs!
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:51:00 -
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Zaintiraris
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:53:00 -
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Look on the bright side. All the gloom and oomers and trying to sell theres. everyone else now can get caldari equipment at relatively reasonable prices. Its good with a longview. ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Black January
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: P1ng in the last few weeks i have noticed that the ravens popularity has gone severly down! i dont like this because i have allwyas been a big fan of the raven and i dislike the idea that i have been training up cladri for some time now and i think its all been a big waste of time! i think that ravens should be un nerfd and get its place back at being the kick as bs!
No offence, but if THIS is your argument, even I don't agree with you.
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Cycerin Strikebeam
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:54:00 -
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People dont realize that you arent supposed to be able to effectively counter vs. every threat in game with ONE setup on ONE BS... Now that things are the way the should have been all the time, level 4 missions take a bit longer to do, with the aid of drones and a couple rails. Awww...
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The Hanz
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Posted - 2005.07.15 17:58:00 -
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Don't listen to the flaming Gallente fool, their ship hasn't been nerfed so now they can prance around, trust me I use both.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:04:00 -
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The less Ravens around, the better. this way I can buy modules cheaper
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:07:00 -
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*sigh*
Missile nerf was poorly implemented, but THIS is not the answer
/me disassociates himself from p1ng ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * ========================================= |
Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:15:00 -
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My Raven works fine.
"EVE Online - even the forums have PVP" - Oveur |
Dryxonedes Sae
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:16:00 -
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I wouldn't say i want the "kick ass battleship" it used to be. I can agree that it was more or less a total solution for making money in a hurry. Yes the extra skills on missiles even the sp run between them and turrets to some extent. That said i think part of the variables plugged into missiles now is rubbish... BUT, would be happy for just one thing, allow a raven to add its velocity bonus to ALL missiles, rather than just cruises and torpedos. Atleast then it would leave a viable option open to deal with frigs/cruisers better, that would still be utilising the ships characteristics (bonuses/module layout). I agree with a previous post though, p1ng, you really haven't helped the cause by saying you want your bs back kicking ass like it should be... It should be effective... not kicking ass....
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Stuart85
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:22:00 -
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At least before the patch the Raven was jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Now on the other hand, it's useless at pretty much everything.
Against frigates and cruisers it's now pretty hopeless, and against battleships it never had the DPS rate of the other tier 2s - that hasn't changed. Ravens were rare in fleet combat and now they're going to be even rarer.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:23:00 -
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You ravenpilots should be happy since the raven is now even more effective against battleships , your only problem is that you might need to train a few skills for once. Maybe now you¦ll start to realise tha pain whichi gallente pilots are going through since we have to train several milion SPs to be just as strong at your ravens in combat.
You should be happy that CCP hasnt yet implemented the feature which makes launchers require cap on activation, this way you can still focus 100% cap on sheer tanking. Welcome to the real world of battleships.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart85 At least before the patch the Raven was jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Now on the other hand, it's useless at pretty much everything.
Against frigates and cruisers it's now pretty hopeless, and against battleships it never had the DPS rate of the other tier 2s - that hasn't changed. Ravens were rare in fleet combat and now they're going to be even rarer.
Then perhaps you¦d be so kind to explain to me why the raven was THE king of closerange combat , even when matched against the supposed king, the Megathron using blasters.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dreez
Originally by: Stuart85 At least before the patch the Raven was jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Now on the other hand, it's useless at pretty much everything.
Against frigates and cruisers it's now pretty hopeless, and against battleships it never had the DPS rate of the other tier 2s - that hasn't changed. Ravens were rare in fleet combat and now they're going to be even rarer.
Then perhaps you¦d be so kind to explain to me why the raven was THE king of closerange combat , even when matched against the supposed king, the Megathron using blasters.
FIRST I'd dispute it ever was, and second, who cares? We're not talking about what it WAS, we're talking about what it IS. ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * ========================================= |
Vigilant
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:39:00 -
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PDU 2 prices droppping.... Good
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:45:00 -
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TBH, I would like to see the Raven completely overhauled. I would like to see it be a railgun platform with appropriate bonuses\grid\etc. OR...leave it as it is now as a anti bs missile platform and then make the scorp a railgun\EW platform. At least that would give Caldari some options.
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.07.15 18:45:00 -
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No I like it... All the smart people get ravens for cheaper now
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El Principe
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Posted - 2005.07.15 19:24:00 -
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Bah... more noobs who have yet to see the powah of teh gankaraven. sure, i cant out damage a geddon. but i can beat one hands down every single time. period.
Try 4 torp, 2 cruise, mids [ tank or ecm ], lows - all BCU
with my skills, and abry launchers, i get less then 9 sec rof, dealing over 800 a torp. 2 small guns and a full rack of med drones keep the inties away.
and i melt Apocs like butter. 'nuff said. *I am a proud owner of a gankaraven - fear it! *DO not attempt this unless you're like me and have ALL missle skills maxxed, and Cal BS 5
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Moridan
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Posted - 2005.07.15 19:27:00 -
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Man I am so tired of hearing that ravens are useless.
Mine works perfectly fine. It npc's well, it has more hope for pvp.
I'm not a mission runner, i can't say if it can solo lvl 4s.
But to say its broken and nerfed to heck is to say you are either incompetent or too lazy to actually try out how the ship really performs in various scenarios. "Speak quietly and carry a big torpedo."
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.07.15 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 15/07/2005 19:34:14 BWhaha, Raven is far from underpowered. Its ability to mix damage types and have over the top damage puts mimmies to shame. Facing a Armor tank, mix in mostly explosion missles. Facing a shield tank Mix in mostly emp and mabye some thermal and knetic.
If a Raven does this, they never loose to any ship. Espically with 100% into the tank.
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