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Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.02.07 03:58:00 -
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So I live in a C4 in a rather small corp and I'm the only one really active on my TZ, so I was hoping to solo some of the anoms, yes I know soloing C4 anoms is not ideal but I have no choice really.
The only 2 anoms that seem soloable are the Integrated Terminus and Frontier Command Post, Eve-Survival suggests that a Dual X-L Ancillary shield boosted BS can do it, and I've tried in a Mael but it consumes too many cap charges and when there are many frigs my drones get instavollied making me lose lots of drones and take lots of time, also transporting cap charges etc is a pain.
So I was wondering if maybe it can be done in another ship? A Tengu perhaps? There aren't too many neuts so it seems doable, would really like some feedback from someone who's done something like this before. Thanks |
Noir Nana
Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons
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Posted - 2013.02.07 04:16:00 -
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Some of the C4 sites are doable solo, some depends on your skills and setup, since there are a few sites that have triple Sleepless Preservers that RR, so getting that first BS down is a chore. |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.02.07 04:50:00 -
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I was thinking of something like this, has just enough tank, decent cap-stability (there aren't many neuts in the 2 sites I listed), the thing I'm worries about is how long will it take to break the triple Sleepless Preserver spawn with 515 dps.
[Tengu, Tengu - C4 Cheap]
Capacitor Flux Coil II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Dread Guristas EM Ward Field Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Also, with an upgraded shield booster and a damage control and I can reach the tank required for the Sleeper Info sanctum (which has at most 1 neuting BS) so I was wondering if doing that site is plausible?
Feedback greatly appreciated |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
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Posted - 2013.02.07 09:53:00 -
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I'm not sure about the fourth Ballistic Control System. It's bonuses tend to be quite low at this number of penalty.
Also, in my opinion, you could gain a lot with a 100MN Afterburner Tengu + Heavy Assault Missiles. You would be around 700 dps with three Ballistic Control System, have less-to-no trouble moving in range (and in the absence of stasis it would definitely improve your tanking)...
I don't solo C4 -I live inside one though-, but a 100MN Heavy Assault Missiles tengu would be my choice. G££ <= Me |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.02.07 09:58:00 -
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Hey Dato;
As long as you can tank 1500 peak dps you won't have any issues. The two sites you listed don't actually peak that high (the 2 reinforcement waves on frontier command post peak at just over 1000 dps).
It looks like the fit you linked is 46% cap stable and 1013 HP/s rated, which would be a little low for my tastes. Popping the frigates quickly would probably allow you to tank it with that ship, but I'd go a little more aggressive on the tank and maybe try to fit in a 6th launcher.
But as linked, it will work at LEAST for the Integrated Terminus', and it will work quite well for those. In the Frontier Command Post, focus down the CRUISER preservers first, as they tend to rep a lot more rapidly I've noticed. That should alleviate any issues with rat rep.
If you can, try to train another toon and do dual tengus. If that's not an option, as laid out above will get you through the quiet time zone.
Svo. |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.02.07 14:04:00 -
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@Altrue Thanks for the suggestion, sounds cool though I've never heard of anyone trying it, I'd try it myself but its quite alot to put on the line to test out, if someone else could comment on the viability ofthis that would be helpful.
@Svodola Thanks for the help, couple questions, by aggressive you mean throw more money at it? it seems pretty tough to get 1.5k dps tank with 6 launchers unless you really pimp it. Other than that very helpful advice, I'm confident enough to try a couple sites with my suggested fit with maybe another flux coil for the BCU and a Pith C-Type Large for some extra tank.
P.S. If anyone has a tried and tested Tengu or other Minmatar/Caldari/Amarr fit capable of soloing C4s that would be much appreciated.
Also, any other forseeable problems with my suggested fits would be nice but I feel like Im asking for too much |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.08 04:34:00 -
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Frontier Barracks are soloable in a AB Tengu, at least I've seen people do it. It takes some forethought though and you absolutely must get inbetween the two preserver BS's at the end, split them up so they can't rep each other.
Me, I prefer a tengu alt. You don't waste nearly as much DPS overcoming reps. It's a lot faster and safer. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
353
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:27:00 -
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if you are going to solo them, spend the isk and throw some faction/deadspace on there. Makes fitting easier and the tanking better. It's also a nice payday for when you get ganked. Alliance CEO, Diplomat, Recruiter |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.08 22:43:00 -
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naga with rails and spike, no tank, 2 targeting range sensor boosters and tracking comps with optimal up to 250 so you can target and hit up to 250. make warpin at 250 from anom, keep at 245+ from rats and take them out, if you die to gank? it's a naga |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1121
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Posted - 2013.02.08 22:59:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:I was thinking of something like this, has just enough tank, decent cap-stability (there aren't many neuts in the 2 sites I listed), the thing I'm worries about is how long will it take to break the triple Sleepless Preserver spawn with 515 dps.
[Tengu, Tengu - C4 Cheap]
Capacitor Flux Coil II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Dread Guristas EM Ward Field Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Also, with an upgraded shield booster and a damage control and I can reach the tank required for the Sleeper Info sanctum (which has at most 1 neuting BS) so I was wondering if doing that site is plausible?
Feedback greatly appreciated
I was expecting to put this in EFT and say not enough, but the tank is ok. DPS will make sites extremely slow. Don't base your numbers off furies, their range is just crap now, especially for C4's command post spawns are going to be 100km away, so most of the time you are going to be using T1 or faction. Since the HM nerf I've switched to pretty much all faction. I will switch to furies in some cases once things get in range, but that isn't often.
When nobody else is around, I'll run C4's in a pair of similarily fit tengus. And it still isnt the fastest, so DPS is gonna make things really slow with the amount of RR in some waves.
Two of these could do the barracks though, once you learn a good flying pattern. I've got it down so I can skirt just outside neut range on the second wave without trouble. Just down one upholder first and DPS is manageable.
And its up to you, but I won't run an information sanctum on my own. I don't mind throwing myself in a fire for PVP. But I don't like losing shiny ships when I'm trying to make isk. The problem solo, or even with only 2 tengus in this site is that you are gonna have someone scrammed for a good 10+ minutes. Anyone happens along and you aren't getting away. 3 or more I don't mind, we run in PVP ready fleets so it's less of a concern. |
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1121
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Posted - 2013.02.08 23:00:00 -
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nahjustwarpin wrote:naga with rails and spike, no tank, 2 targeting range sensor boosters and tracking comps with optimal up to 250 so you can target and hit up to 250. make warpin at 250 from anom, keep at 245+ from rats and take them out, if you die to gank? it's a naga
I'm tempted to try this. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
319
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Posted - 2013.02.10 01:49:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:nahjustwarpin wrote:naga with rails and spike, no tank, 2 targeting range sensor boosters and tracking comps with optimal up to 250 so you can target and hit up to 250. make warpin at 250 from anom, keep at 245+ from rats and take them out, if you die to gank? it's a naga I'm tempted to try this.
For having tried it once, a few months ago for lulz in a C3 magnetometric site, it seems that the sleepers will chase you until an invisible limit, then they will simply stay at this limit, only orbiting 1-2km around an invisible point, keeping you targeted without actively attacking you.
As I wasn't here to do the spot, I didn't finish it nor I even tried to loot it, but this behaviour will probably be the same in a c4. I don't even know if it's an exploit. You might want to check, just in case.
G££ <= Me |
Cage Man
164
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Posted - 2013.02.10 22:43:00 -
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I used to solo C4's in a tengu with 5 launchers.. painfully slow. Can't remember fit exactly, evemail me and I'll remember to send it. But it had a pithum a typ medium SB and a CN invuln. Had round 1300 cap stable tank. Best option is a carrier... it actually works out cheaper than a faction fit tengu, and with the new damage mods a sentry carrier is awesome. Oh PLEASE!!! CCP Fozzie Can I haz a Navy moa....... |
Hench Tenet
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
35
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Posted - 2013.02.19 03:08:00 -
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Marauders/faction BS can. |
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