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Garan Nardieu
Moira. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.02.15 12:47:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:No, I'm saying that "we told you so". When they were on your side you guys were more than happy to have the advantage of having tons of worthless ISK farmers doing the grunt work for you. We warned that it was a broken system and you should also speak out that it is broken because one day the system might turn against you. Seems that one day didn't take so long to come along, and here we have some of the very Gals that laughed when the Farmers were on their said saying "working as intended" are now crying about hoards of ISK farmers with cloaks & stabs. As I said. I told you so..
You know what you all (squiddie whiners) seem to forget? You seem to forget how the warzone takeover actually begun, so let me remind you by putting this quote here (OP in FW christmas gift thread) "Seems there is a general consensus on these forums that FW is broken again. The factions that are on a downward spiral canGÇÖt recover, the farming is going rampant and generally everything is broken, imbalanced or biased... ".
So, while history has proven him wrong about factions not being able to recover, the rest is correct - there is (and always was) a consensus about it, it's just that you lot where too busy whining all this time to even consider agreeing with him. I'm pretty sure CCP realises that current FW mechanics (again) favour farmers and that they are working on fixing that, not for the sake of Gal or Cal or MyA** mil, but for the sake of game. Furthermore - while you can have majority of warzone control due to PvE farming, total control is a PvP endeavour and noone in their sane mind can deny that. So instead of whining, why not give credit where it's due (GalMil taking the whole warzone) and start making constructive suggestions about FW mechanics through dialogue with all factions involved (yes, dialogue with Gals too) and maybe we can get a system everyone would actually enjoy participating in. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one... |
Dread Operative
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
152
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:36:00 -
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I keep hearing about all these GalMil tears, but I don't really see them. Most posts are responses to something a squid has said. The only "tears" I've seen is about cloaks being used in plexs, which let's be honest, is lame either way. Can someone post these "tears" cause my reading skills must be lacking. Mostly I see DnD and Qcats saying gj and gf's to be had in the future, and then being accused of lies and propaganda. |
Abannan
Justified Chaos
71
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:37:00 -
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Hows plexing those vulnerable systems working out? |
Dread Operative
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
152
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:42:00 -
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Abannan wrote:Hows plexing those vulnerable systems working out?
Who's that directed to? |
Princess Nexxala
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
279
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Posted - 2013.02.15 17:58:00 -
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Pretty sure there is only 1 gal mil complaining in this thread.
I, for one, embrace the farming cloaking/stabbing hoard. They are easy to kill and rage in local when you won't them farm. They are easily countered by simple tactics and once discouraged via multiple losses and poddings, tend to stay away from whatever system(s) you are actively protecting.
Working as intended
Mutnin wrote:We warned that it was a broken system and you should also speak out that it is broken because one day the system might turn against you. Seems that one day didn't take so long to come along, and here we have some of the very Gals that laughed when the Farmers were on their said saying "working as intended" are now crying about hoards of ISK farmers with cloaks & stabs. As I said. I told you so.. QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Shadow Adanza
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
44
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:24:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:No, I'm saying that "we told you so". When they were on your side you guys were more than happy to have the advantage of having tons of worthless ISK farmers doing the grunt work for you. We warned that it was a broken system and you should also speak out that it is broken because one day the system might turn against you. Seems that one day didn't take so long to come along, and here we have some of the very Gals that laughed when the Farmers were on their said saying "working as intended" are now crying. As I said. I told you so.. The farmers are fun. Run the plex while they're cloaked up in it, it's hilarious. They eventually get mad and will say something in local/uncloak and -try- to warp off. They get to the point where when they even see your name in local they'll try to leave system.
Lossmails are a better deterrent than anything CCP could introduce. Hey! You're no zombie! |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1045
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:47:00 -
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Currently several Gallente militia corps are on pace for a record numbers of kills for this month even though it is only 28 days long. Working as intended.
We've always said the rats are too easy and invite too much farming, but unfortunately there is a certain moron (not even in FW anymore, like all the other morons who post stupid suggestions for FW) on the forums who posts about some idiotic "notification system" and "no rats in plexes" that CCP has listened to. But in any case, we got booted from Heyd, but fights/ganks/kills/whatever are up - and we're all having a blast.
Bottom line is that (certain) Squids should just STFU and take all our systems like we did to them. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1045
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Posted - 2013.02.15 18:48:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Abannan wrote:Hows plexing those vulnerable systems working out? Who's that directed to? Squid farmer alts. |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.15 21:30:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Currently several Gallente militia corps are on pace for a record numbers of kills for this month even though it is only 28 days long. Working as intended.
We've always said the rats are too easy and invite too much farming, but unfortunately there is a certain moron (not even in FW anymore, like all the other morons who post stupid suggestions for FW) on the forums who posts about some idiotic "notification system" and "no rats in plexes" that CCP has listened to. But in any case, we got booted from Heyd, but fights/ganks/kills/whatever are up - and we're all having a blast.
Bottom line is that (certain) Squids should just STFU and take all our systems like we did to them.
You must be a upset to be calling chatgris, and several other of your fellow gallente who welcomed the changes to npcs morons. BTW Chatgris is still in fw.
Also npcs don't really prevent people from fitting cloaks or stabs. Instead of having ccp prevent people from running your plexes (through their npcs) you could have the players do it. And yes a notification system would haelp players do that so we don't have to rely on npcs.
If you are really so upset, that you are calling just about everyone in your militia a moron, about your inability to shoot red crosses maybe try wormholes, or high sec missions, or fw missions, or belt ratting, or incursions, or anomalys or epic arcs or cosmos missions. But leave fw plexing as a single mechanic that allows pvp.
Any of the above activities is better than your criticizing the most intelliegent move ccp did with respect to fw. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1046
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Posted - 2013.02.15 22:05:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Also npcs don't really prevent people from fitting cloaks or stabs. Really? Would you say that anybody being targeted by a rat can't cloak? And that anybody who wants to kill a rat can't do it while cloaked?
Quote:If you are really so upset, Not really upset. Lots of fights and kills. More than ever before. /me happy.
Quote: that you are calling just about everyone in your militia a moron, about your inability to shoot red crosses maybe try wormholes, or high sec missions, or fw missions, or belt ratting, or incursions, or anomalys or epic arcs or cosmos missions. But leave fw plexing as a single mechanic that allows pvp.
Any of the above activities is better than your criticizing the most intelliegent move ccp did with respect to fw.
Nah, I'm just calling you a moron. I think everybody else understands that a notification system won't do squat, and that inappropriately sized rats invite massive levels of farming.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.15 22:20:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:Also npcs don't really prevent people from fitting cloaks or stabs. Really? Would you say that anybody being targeted by a rat can't cloak? And that anybody who wants to kill a rat can't do it while cloaked?
Oh so your proposing that we go back to where you are constantly shooting rats (so they are preventing you from cloaking) and end the situation were the timer doesn't start to run until you kill all the rats? That would be a great move backwards.
Quote: that you are calling just about everyone in your militia a moron, about your inability to shoot red crosses maybe try wormholes, or high sec missions, or fw missions, or belt ratting, or incursions, or anomalys or epic arcs or cosmos missions. But leave fw plexing as a single mechanic that allows pvp.
Any of the above activities is better than your criticizing the most intelliegent move ccp did with respect to fw.
X Gallentius wrote: Nah, I'm just calling you a moron. I think everybody else understands that a notification system won't do squat, and that inappropriately sized rats invite massive levels of farming..
In this very thread Chatgris in your militia praises the changes to the npcs for not interferring with pvp. The reduction of the importance of the npcs in determing the outcome of the war has been applauded by just about every who wants it to be a pvp mechanic. Only you crying that the npcs won't prevent people from capturing plexes. the rest agree that is a job for the players.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
500
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Posted - 2013.02.15 22:26:00 -
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Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Currently several Gallente militia corps are on pace for a record numbers of kills for this month even though it is only 28 days long. Working as intended.
We've always said the rats are too easy and invite too much farming, but unfortunately there is a certain moron (not even in FW anymore, like all the other morons who post stupid suggestions for FW) on the forums who posts about some idiotic "notification system" and "no rats in plexes" that CCP has listened to. But in any case, we got booted from Heyd, but fights/ganks/kills/whatever are up - and we're all having a blast.
Bottom line is that (certain) Squids should just STFU and take all our systems like we did to them. You must be a upset to be calling chatgris, and several other of your fellow gallente who welcomed the changes to npcs morons. BTW Chatgris is still in fw. Also npcs don't really prevent people from fitting cloaks or stabs. Instead of having ccp prevent people from running your plexes (through their npcs) you could have the players do it. And yes a notification system would haelp players do that so we don't have to rely on npcs. If you are really so upset, that you are calling just about everyone in your militia a moron, about your inability to shoot red crosses maybe try wormholes, or high sec missions, or fw missions, or belt ratting, or incursions, or anomalys or epic arcs or cosmos missions. But leave fw plexing as a single mechanic that allows pvp. Any of the above activities is better than your criticizing the most intelliegent move ccp did with respect to fw.
Ignore all these fw dudes Cearain. You might be the only person who has ever advocated or seen any use in an automated notification system but dont let that discourage you. I look forward to the next year of you posting your sole opinion that this would be a good way for ccp to spend their time.
In fact ive changed my mind on the notification system. Ive decided to implement it myself right here. There are people running plexes everywhere RIGHT NOW! |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.15 22:55:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Currently several Gallente militia corps are on pace for a record numbers of kills for this month even though it is only 28 days long. Working as intended.
We've always said the rats are too easy and invite too much farming, but unfortunately there is a certain moron (not even in FW anymore, like all the other morons who post stupid suggestions for FW) on the forums who posts about some idiotic "notification system" and "no rats in plexes" that CCP has listened to. But in any case, we got booted from Heyd, but fights/ganks/kills/whatever are up - and we're all having a blast.
Bottom line is that (certain) Squids should just STFU and take all our systems like we did to them. You must be a upset to be calling chatgris, and several other of your fellow gallente who welcomed the changes to npcs morons. BTW Chatgris is still in fw. Also npcs don't really prevent people from fitting cloaks or stabs. Instead of having ccp prevent people from running your plexes (through their npcs) you could have the players do it. And yes a notification system would haelp players do that so we don't have to rely on npcs. If you are really so upset, that you are calling just about everyone in your militia a moron, about your inability to shoot red crosses maybe try wormholes, or high sec missions, or fw missions, or belt ratting, or incursions, or anomalys or epic arcs or cosmos missions. But leave fw plexing as a single mechanic that allows pvp. Any of the above activities is better than your criticizing the most intelliegent move ccp did with respect to fw. Ignore all these fw dudes Cearain. You might be the only person who has ever advocated or seen any use in an automated notification system but dont let that discourage you. I look forward to the next year of you posting your sole opinion that this would be a good way for ccp to spend their time. In fact ive changed my mind on the notification system. Ive decided to implement it myself right here. There are people running plexes everywhere RIGHT NOW!
I'm in fw just not with my pvp characters. Unlike you, I am not interested in chasing farmers so I can dock.
I just join fw with my alts for pve - as it was designed. Plexes are still good for pvp but you get much more of it when you don't limit yourself to one side. There is no pvp advantage to being in a militia, only disadvantages. You limit your targets and cant places different ships throughout your roaming grounds.
But really have fun chasing plexers. Good luck with that, and never feel like you are wasting your time wandering around chasing them. Keep believing its a good use of your time, and cursing anyone who proposes mechanics to change faction war sov from this farmville. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1046
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:15:00 -
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Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:Also npcs don't really prevent people from fitting cloaks or stabs. Really? Would you say that anybody being targeted by a rat can't cloak? And that anybody who wants to kill a rat can't do it while cloaked? Oh so your proposing that we go back to where you are constantly shooting rats (so they are preventing you from cloaking) and end the situation were the timer doesn't start to run until you kill all the rats? That would be a great move backwards. I've proposed sizing rats so that a T1 frigate can't kill the rats in a medium sized plex. Pretty straight-forward. Bottom line is the active tanking abilities of these new rats ought to be increased by quite a bit. But as long as the rules of the game are the same for all sides, I can adjust.
Quote:X Gallentius wrote: Nah, I'm just calling you a moron. I think everybody else understands that a notification system won't do squat, and that inappropriately sized rats invite massive levels of farming.
In this very thread Chatgris in your militia praises the changes to the npcs for not interferring with pvp. The reduction of the importance of the npcs in determing the outcome of the war has been applauded by just about every who wants it to be a pvp mechanic. Only you crying that the npcs won't prevent people from capturing plexes. the rest agree that is a job for the players. Like I said, the bottom line for me is more kills. pew is up. All is good. Proposed notification system is pointless. Farmers are going to "burn the fields" - the "fortresses" are where occupancy warfare will be fought for - win or lose.
I just find it interesting that those who whine about the current mechanic are the ones who pushed for it so strongly. It's one thing for chatgris to praise the current mechanic. It's sad that you consistently whine about it non-stop since it has your thumbprints all over it.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.15 23:42:00 -
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XG
I love the way you are subtlly trying to suggest that this farmville is my doing. It was people like me and chatgris who said from the very start just throwing a bunch of isk at plexing wont solve the problems. Perhaps he has changed his position on that, I don't know. But I haven't, and we are seeing that I was right. Whichever faction can attract more alt plexers wins. Same as ever.
The most important thing to make sov warfare a pvp game is to let the players know where plexes are being taken so they can defend them in pvp. That is what I and others have said for years. Somehow that got left out. But that wasn't my fault. It was due to people like you who post objections and when your objections get shot down you just retreat to asserting your conclusion that it won't help. If they give us notifications and the number of kills per plex doesn't go up then i would agree I was wrong. But you and I both know the number of kills per plex taken will go way up if they did that.
If you thoguht about it you would realize that people would start flying the more powerful ships available for each plex as well - instead of the empty frigate hulls we see now. But really you are too bent on some agenda against me to actually think.
If you claim to know where people are plexing then people running a medium plex in a frigate shouldnt' be a problem. Just keep cruisers throughout the zone. Oh thats right people in fw can't do that becasue they are locked out of stations. Another bad idea you keep supporting. You have been the biggest supporter of this farmville system, so enjoy it.
People can fit cloaks and stabs on cruisers just like they can on frigates. Forcing people to fly a bigger ship just to shoot tougher rats is going in the wrong direction - at least for people who want fw to be about pvp. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1047
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Posted - 2013.02.16 00:35:00 -
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Cearain wrote:XG I love the way you are subtlly trying to suggest that this farmville is my doing. Not really subtly trying to suggest anything at all. I think I've been pretty direct about it. (OK, not your fault. CCP's fault for listening to you. )
That said, we all know whenever there are payouts involved that farming will follow. CCP has one verified tool that can tune the level of farming done by the alts - the strength and frequency of the NPCs. In any case, it is what it is. See you in space. |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.16 04:09:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:XG I love the way you are subtlly trying to suggest that this farmville is my doing. Not really subtly trying to suggest anything at all. I think I've been pretty direct about it. (OK, not your fault. CCP's fault for listening to you. ) That said, we all know whenever there are payouts involved that farming will follow. CCP has one verified tool that can tune the level of farming done by the alts - the strength and frequency of the NPCs. In any case, it is what it is. See you in space.
Except the rats were both stronger and more frequent when the farming was even worse. The main thing that decreased the farming was nerfing the payouts.
NPCs are not the only answer. Players can be used to prevent losing space to farmers too. But we need better tools. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Andre Vauban
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
83
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Posted - 2013.02.16 06:16:00 -
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Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:XG I love the way you are subtlly trying to suggest that this farmville is my doing. Not really subtly trying to suggest anything at all. I think I've been pretty direct about it. (OK, not your fault. CCP's fault for listening to you. ) That said, we all know whenever there are payouts involved that farming will follow. CCP has one verified tool that can tune the level of farming done by the alts - the strength and frequency of the NPCs. In any case, it is what it is. See you in space. Except the rats were both stronger and more frequent when the farming was even worse. The main thing that decreased the farming was nerfing the payouts. NPCs are not the only answer. Players can be used to prevent losing space to farmers too. But we need better tools.
While you may think your answer of a plex notification system is the answer, it isn't. There are plexers running plexes in almost every single Gallente held system for the entire 3-5 hours a night that I play. Notifications won't help that. What will help is a auto-reverse countdown so when I chase them off, I don't get the pleasure of reversing their timer to neutral while they go to another system and capture a plex there instead. The system really isn't that bad. They only thing that is questionable is whether the squids will take every system before the farmers switch sides (again)...
QCATS is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180
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Cromwell Savage
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
121
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Posted - 2013.02.16 14:04:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:[ The system really isn't that bad. They only thing that is questionable is whether the squids will take every system before the farmers switch sides (again)...
It's "not that bad"....but here is where I have extreme, major issues with the current mechanics...
Plexing is still not where "we" want it - i.e. it is still far too easy to be affected (sometimes in major ways) by the farming horde. I will freely admit I personally didn't realise it was still "this bad" until the last few weeks. Yet, CCP (we) are allowing this still "work in progress" to affect station docking. To me, that is putting the cart in front of the horse...
I understand the whole concept of "repurcussions" and what not, but how about we "fix" this mechanic before we let it have such a major influence on FW lo-sec??? I'd be happy to discuss alternative repurcussions but with station docking (and why I think it is fundamentaly against the foundation of FW lo-sec to keep with this docking mechanic).... |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
227
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:01:00 -
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Cearain wrote:There is no pvp advantage to being in a militia, only disadvantages.
There are the LP payouts on enemy militia kills.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.16 19:14:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:XG I love the way you are subtlly trying to suggest that this farmville is my doing. Not really subtly trying to suggest anything at all. I think I've been pretty direct about it. (OK, not your fault. CCP's fault for listening to you. ) That said, we all know whenever there are payouts involved that farming will follow. CCP has one verified tool that can tune the level of farming done by the alts - the strength and frequency of the NPCs. In any case, it is what it is. See you in space. Except the rats were both stronger and more frequent when the farming was even worse. The main thing that decreased the farming was nerfing the payouts. NPCs are not the only answer. Players can be used to prevent losing space to farmers too. But we need better tools. While you may think your answer of a plex notification system is the answer, it isn't. There are plexers running plexes in almost every single Gallente held system for the entire 3-5 hours a night that I play. Notifications won't help that. What will help is a auto-reverse countdown so when I chase them off, I don't get the pleasure of reversing their timer to neutral while they go to another system and capture a plex there instead. The system really isn't that bad. They only thing that is questionable is whether the squids will take every system before the farmers switch sides (again)...
The auto reverse countdown will help as well if done correctly. We agree. As I explain it is more of a pro-blob mechanic than notifications so is not as good.
I have a pvp character and some fw alts in caldari gallente fw space. So I know what is going on. Most plexes my alts take are taken without interuption even assuming someone who cares about sov comes into local. The countback won't help. It may mean that players who want pvp so who plex in busy systems will waste their time when gallente come with their 5-1 numbers. 5-1 numbers is better than the current system but its still not great.
Its counterintuitive, and wrong, to say that helping players know where and when plexes are attacked won't help them to defend them. It's obvious that letting players know where and when plexes are being attacked will help them fight for them. Certainly as i roam around I would love to know what plexes are being run by me and a rough idea of how much time they have left on the timer. To say that wouldn't help is just crazy. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
832
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Posted - 2013.02.16 19:19:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Cearain wrote:There is no pvp advantage to being in a militia, only disadvantages. There are the LP payouts on enemy militia kills.
Yes good point I think you get 1 lp per 10k isk destroyed not sure with the tiers. By "pvp advantage" though I meant the ability to find good pvp. Getting more lp doesn't really help you find more pvp. Being able to dock anywhere, and being able to attack both sides does.
Bottom line: If you want isk join fw. If you want more frequent pvp then stay out of it. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Salicaz
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
111
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Posted - 2013.02.16 20:18:00 -
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Is it just me, or do all W&T posts look the same after page 3? with the same people crying about the same **** to each other regardless of thread title? |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
833
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Posted - 2013.02.16 20:51:00 -
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With respect to fw sov the problem is the same as ever. So the same fixes will be proposed until ccp implents them. Its not you. same arguments between those who want pve and those who want pvp. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Ctzn Snips
Justified Chaos
19
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Posted - 2013.02.17 01:10:00 -
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Here's your notification system:
XXX is being plexed! Go there Farmers run away Repeat.
Here's the current system: Look at FW menu All the systems are being plexed! Go there Farmers run away Repeat.
Genius. |
Abannan
Justified Chaos
71
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Posted - 2013.02.17 19:41:00 -
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Cearain wrote:With respect to fw sov the problem is the same as ever. So the same fixes will be proposed until ccp implents them. Its not you. same arguments between those who want pve and those who want pvp.
Ok, as a trial run, everytime I open a plex on my main, or on any of my alts, I will send you a mail. |
Dread Operative
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
152
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Posted - 2013.02.17 21:46:00 -
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So as everyone passes through systems, pause up for a couple seconds and pop every available plex. Spam that notification! The forum tears will be epic! |
chatgris
quantum cats syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
380
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:25:00 -
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praznimrak wrote:THIS IS FRUSTRATING.......Main come in plex kill npc and leave claoki alt to run timer.......
Thay don't fight back, impossibly to catch and have huge influence on FW zone control.
There are hordes of those now,way more than real players.
Whats the point of moving timer close to warp out point if every time i enter plex to catch opponents they just cloak????????????????
Fix cloaking CCP,the worst broken feature of alllllllll.
Thx. Praz
Look for the silver lining - the button near the warpin is very nice when hunting cloaky squids!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt3AAzryAiY |
IbanezLaney
the church of awesome Caldari State Capturing
214
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:05:00 -
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There is a bigger farming problem-
Someone is farming capital letters from corp names.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
833
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:22:00 -
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Abannan wrote:Cearain wrote:With respect to fw sov the problem is the same as ever. So the same fixes will be proposed until ccp implents them. Its not you. same arguments between those who want pve and those who want pvp. Ok, as a trial run, everytime I open a plex on my main, or on any of my alts, I will send you a mail.
Its not when you open the plex, it's when you enter or leave a plex it woudl register in the channel.
It would be great if you could filter it to a certain number of jumps.
Combined with a sensible rollback timer and the alt hide and seek plexing would end.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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