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I'm Down
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:13:00 -
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Quote: However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points, thus we highly suggest you think about upgrading your clone accordingly, especially if you plan on going into hostile or remote space. Sealing the deal
All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. ThatGÇÖs a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter GÇô all of this is final and should not change at this point.
However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points, thus we highly suggest you think about upgrading your clone accordingly, especially if you plan on going into hostile or remote space. Sealing the deal
All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. ThatGÇÖs a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter GÇô all of this is final and should not change at this point.
So basically, 2 months more of ignoring the obvious problem and lying to players only to come back and say, tough luck guys, you're screwed for all the reasons you warned us about b/c we think we know something. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2286
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:15:00 -
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Oh look, an NCdot guy making absolutely no sense. What a surprise. I'll probably-ábe banned for this |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1140
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:18:00 -
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I'm Down wrote:... four minutes of my life lost here...
Wut?!?!?! That doesn't make any sense whatsoever...
Take a step back from the bong, and don't post while stoned. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1985
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:20:00 -
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I am also of the consensus that this thread makes no sense and OP should feel bad for posting it. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
I'm Down
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
153
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:20:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:I'm Down wrote:... four minutes of my life lost here... Wut?!?!?! That doesn't make any sense whatsoever... Take a step back from the bong, and don't post while stoned.
Basically, if you have BC 5 and Destroyer 5 currently trained, You will get a 6.2 million increase in skill points post patch. In other words, major clone cost increases for older players who stopped training, risk of clone skill loss for players who log in after the patch, and several other major consequences. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
137
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:21:00 -
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You missed the part where CCP also said in the newest thread about 12 hours ago that they weren't happy with the current clone cost system. Which would suggest they have something in the works for clone costs/upgrades. But haven't finalised it yet.
Which makes the statement that they are looking into it and may have some plans.... true at that point.
Simply seizing the most convinient quote for your QQ and ignoring the rest doesn't make it true. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
2940
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:22:00 -
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It's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Stop QQing
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Wodensun
ZeroSec
28
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:23:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:It's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Stop QQing
-Liang
This ^ and not empty quoting.
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EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
466
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:23:00 -
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They're trying to tell us that it is probably going to be changed for the expansion but they don't explicitly want to say that because it's not completely finished yet. |
I'm Down
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
153
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:23:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:You missed the part where CCP also said in the newest thread about 12 hours ago that they weren't happy with the current clone cost system. Which would suggest they have something in the works for clone costs/upgrades. But haven't finalised it yet.
Which makes the statement that they are looking into it and may have some plans.... true at that point.
Simply seizing the most convinient quote for your QQ and ignoring the rest doesn't make it true.
which does 0 to address that with the same patch, nor does it address the major consequences of skill loss that many players face due to the issue being almost completely hidden. It also affect every player that is currently on leave and does not go back to read old blogs before logging in post patch. It also still causes a variety of other issues. |
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Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:23:00 -
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what doesn't make sense?
you're getting more sp because of the change, they said they have a change coming for clones but they aren't saying what.
what's so confusing? |
Arcelian
House of Praetor R O G U E
1
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:24:00 -
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People can and will ***** about everything they possibly can. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
280
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:25:00 -
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NC. tears are delicious, mate. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
137
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:26:00 -
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I'm Down wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:You missed the part where CCP also said in the newest thread about 12 hours ago that they weren't happy with the current clone cost system. Which would suggest they have something in the works for clone costs/upgrades. But haven't finalised it yet.
Which makes the statement that they are looking into it and may have some plans.... true at that point.
Simply seizing the most convinient quote for your QQ and ignoring the rest doesn't make it true. which does 0 to address that with the same patch, nor does it address the major consequences of skill loss that many players face due to the issue being almost completely hidden. It also affect every player that is currently on leave and does not go back to read old blogs before logging in post patch. It also still causes a variety of other issues.
Because the contents of the Summer Expansion are 100% finalised & announced at this point and they won't add a single feature not already Dev Blogged between now and June? |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1985
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:27:00 -
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Ah...it took awhile..i get it now.
OP is in NC. and probably loses clones like most people spend isk. OP is mad because this will kick him/her/it into the next clone bracket, making his/her/its super awesome pvp more expensive, which in turn is causing all the pre-emtive butthurt. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Kate stark
Perkone Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:29:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Ah...it took awhile..i get it now.
OP is in NC. and probably loses clones like most people spend isk. OP is mad because this will kick him/her/it into the next clone bracket, making his/her/its super awesome pvp more expensive, which in turn is causing all the pre-emtive butthurt.
so the tl;dr is that nc. are bad? |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
436
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:37:00 -
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Just be like me and confuse the clone cost for the SP level. 80 million SP, or one bad decision, before I have to worry about a new clone! This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
1179
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:47:00 -
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It's just wrong of them to not give advance notice of the changes so people could prepare. I mean, really, they should think of that guy that quit in 2005 and who is going to come back in 2013 and not know about the changes, and boom, gets podded in an outdated clone. Think of the 2005ers, CCP!
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1287
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:47:00 -
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I'm Down wrote:Quote: However, we will not adjust clone level if the refund causes your total skill points to go above your current clone capacity. If you have Destroyer and Battlecruiser 5 trained, you should account for approximately 6.2 additional million skill points, thus we highly suggest you think about upgrading your clone accordingly, especially if you plan on going into hostile or remote space. Sealing the deal
All of this will happen for the Summer 2013 expansion. ThatGÇÖs a lot to take on, which is why we wanted to give you as much of an advance notice as possible so you can react accordingly. We do hope this will clear any confusion on the matter GÇô all of this is final and should not change at this point. CCP Fozzie wrote:I'm Down wrote:[quote=CCP Fozzie]
You still haven't addressed the problems that the skill changes will make to cloning, clone cost, upgrades and the possible skill losses from players who die after the changes with out dated clones thanks to the potential 6 million addtional skill points. We have some plans to help mitigate those challenges but nothing quite ready to announce yet. So basically, 2 months more of ignoring the obvious problem and lying to players only to come back and say, tough luck guys, you're screwed for all the reasons you warned us about b/c we think we know something. I guess the years of telling players, hey, you can stop training an account at any time and not pay for higher clone cost was a lie. As well as forcing players to always buy a more expensive clone... thus hurting their pocket and risk factors. Good player relationship bro's.
Hey Yaay how about you be proactive for once in your life and if you know its going to boost your clone up and you're worried about it you upgrade your clone before the patch
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1574
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Posted - 2013.02.09 00:55:00 -
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Maybe you could try getting better at Eve so you're not being constantly podded?
abloobloobloo my clone costs abloobloobloo Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
148
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Posted - 2013.02.09 01:02:00 -
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OP is such a delicate unique snowflake that he needs his own separate thread on this. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2197
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Posted - 2013.02.09 03:48:00 -
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Came expecting tears of WoW, pleasantly surprised and still left satisfied. |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
142
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:38:00 -
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To op. i dont see problem with your quotes... Its always been players responcibility to make sure he has medical clone that covers hes skillpoints.. CCP after all has nerfed to penalty of failing to do so. You only loose 5% of sp thats not covered by clone...
And if your that spacebroke that you can afford to upgrade, then maybe you should consider different career in eve that actually enables you to gain isk... [Insert something funny or smart here]
Good lord has set me on path, sometimes im confused about what he wants from me. But path leads on, towards why he placed me on this wonderfull planet... |
luZk
x13 Whores in space
104
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:59:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Oh look, an NCdot guy making absolutely no sense. What a surprise.
Oh look! Mallak Azaria starting his reply with "Oh look". What a surprise. |
classified data
State Protectorate Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2013.02.09 11:14:00 -
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I know right? Stuff is gonna happen that hasn't been decided yet and I'm a confused and angry neck beard too. Never been so mad in all my ******* life.
Sent from my CRYphone. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
442
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Posted - 2013.02.09 11:40:00 -
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If CCP leaves clone costs as they are at the moment, they'll only go up 1-2m for most players (about the cost of a T2 ship module), I'm sure there'll be so much less people pvp'ing due to this massive cost increase causing financial hardship to all.
Even for most vets it's only about 15-20m a clone extra if it pushes you up to Upsilon or Phi grades. If you've been playing that long and your implants don't cost way more, or you can't afford that small increase then you might be playing the game wrong.
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Sadayiel
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
71
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Posted - 2013.02.09 11:41:00 -
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3/10
Hidden cry for i want to *store* those SP somewhere and then rellocate when i can afford a good clone.
in fact
4/10 Op's even try to complain for non-playing right now other players |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
78
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Posted - 2013.02.09 11:53:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Came expecting tears of WoW, pleasantly surprised and still left satisfied.
WoW is great, I can go afk suddenly to look after my newborn baby and not really risk losing anything at all!
Eve on the other hand, is unplayable.
So what does that mean? WoW, amazingly enough, supports ones having a 'real life' WAY better than Eve does.
No tears here. I only sub to Eve for the hilarious forums.
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Whitehound
700
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Posted - 2013.02.09 12:38:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:People can and will ***** about everything they possibly can. There should be a PhD for biatching. It only makes sense. SCAM CAT - Titan Jump - I was there - Goon Dog |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
279
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Posted - 2013.02.09 12:45:00 -
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Update the clone and get over it. Those who dont check their clones, is basically their fault. LF CSM8 candidate. Are you what lowsec needs? --->-átinyurl.com/afaawrb
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