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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
390
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Posted - 2013.02.18 20:39:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:Fix the sound of Titan bridging and null sec jump bridges make. It is way to loud!!!
As for gate effects, I do not think CCP should put energy on that. I would prefer they remove them and introduce inter-system travel instead.
I assume you mean inter stellar travel because we already have inter system travel. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
48
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:12:00 -
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Seconded.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2213
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Posted - 2013.02.18 21:22:00 -
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Thirded. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3571
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:47:00 -
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Joran Dravius wrote:I want the warp sound back. Nariya Kentaya wrote:But there IS a universal horizontal, its common in scifi, and agreed to be a requirement for interstellar travel in the real world I really doubt that, at least not if we ever want gravity, which is biologically mandatory for staying in space for extended periods. Without it you develop bone and heart problems and your muscles deteriorate. I really doubt some magical gravity machine will ever be invented. It's more likely we'll fake it by spinning the ship. And it's by no means required or even helpful for navigation to have a standard up and down in a properly designed 3D system. Well, there is a sort of universal up and down on the solar system and galaxy level. Both tend to form a flat disc shape, rather than a ball shape as you would expect.
I don't think it's too far a stretch for a civilization to establish a generic up and down for allships navigational computers, if for no other reason that to simplify things when you are considering constant interactions between hundreds of thousands of ships/stations/outposts/POS's in often very close proximity. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
June Sharisa
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.02.19 03:24:00 -
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I like the idea of updating jump gates. |
Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.02.19 05:19:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Fourth.
SO much win if we can get something this close to Jump Gate animations... hell I'll just jump from one system to another for hours just to watch it.... or youtube it. Whichever comes first. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Moonasha
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
126
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Posted - 2013.02.19 06:06:00 -
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when i first joined, i was amazed by everything.... except the jump animation. Which was underwhelming. I really hope it's updated |
YuuKnow
boom-town
651
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Posted - 2013.02.19 06:59:00 -
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Diddo most of the sentiments in the thread. Making the jump animation better would be high yield.
It has to be something that can be watched 10k times can not getting annoying though. The current animation is simple and harmless enough that its pretty much ignored after a while. Make something too elaborate and after 1-2 years its just plain annoying.
yk |
YuuKnow
boom-town
651
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Posted - 2013.02.19 07:01:00 -
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Would get old after about 2 days.
yk |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
844
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Posted - 2013.02.19 10:13:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:Well fancy that. Someone else thinks that making the most common activity in eve a tad more immersive is a good idea :)
FYP "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers R O G U E
234
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Posted - 2013.02.19 10:19:00 -
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i do like the ME idea of having the gate do something to your ship to send it across space and then an epic entrance as you enter the next system. |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2013.02.19 10:45:00 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:i do like the ME idea of having the gate do something to your ship to send it across space and then an epic entrance as you enter the next system. And what if you were in a stealth ship and do not want a grand entrance?
"Hey all you gate campers! Here I am in my cloaked Buzzard!" as electrical discharges and sparks flies around and off his soon-not-to-be-cloaked ship.
But updated graphics would be nice. As others have mentioned, let the graphic extras fit the mass of the ship - a freighter should make a huge entrance while a shuttle but a mere fizzle. |
Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.02.19 11:48:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Would get old after about 2 days. yk got old and annoying much faster than that. as did all of mass effect's 2-d "space flight". that game's got nothing to teach eve online on how to do space |
ISquishWorms
199
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Posted - 2013.02.19 11:53:00 -
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What a coincidence, only the other week whilst playing EVE with a friend they said to me that wouldn't be cool if we could actually see our ships zoom off and disappear into the distance when going through a gate rather than just the blue line/flash.
I approve and support the idea, as I am sure my friend does, of improving the gate animations. . |
ZyferDK
The Fiction Factory Tribal Band
1
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Posted - 2013.02.19 13:19:00 -
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posting to confirm aswell that this would be a nice effect :D can't really ask for more after the target animation where you can see shield, armor and hull on enemy ships when targeted, it looks nice :) But if i really had to ask, then i would ask for this + the ME jump effect, that gets a +1 from me. |
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
48
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:26:00 -
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Seeing a lot of support for the ME style graphic. Does this fit the lore?
If I'm going from what is shown here: http://community.eveonline.com/background/jump/jump_03.asp
Here's what I've gathered that is relevant to the animation: -Jump Gates use wormholes to pass objects between them -Upon entering the gate, a layer of mass boson is applied to the ship (to keep the wormhole locally 'wide' and prevent the ship from crushing) -The 'metric gradient' causes pilots to have an experience known as 'going down the drain'
Note: The current animation shows a streak of light originating from the gate, which would suggest something being propelled very fast. This doesn't make sense in accordance with the lore, where nothing would be seen between the two points as the ship would cease to exist within the standard plane.
And from the existing system, architecture, etc.: -Animation for leaving the system that would include assets in space would last 2-3 seconds -There is a gap between switching servers where no assets from either system are loaded (1-2 seconds) -Assets loaded from the new system may not show up right away -If an 'arrival' animation is played, it should be played after the movement of the ship, and not before (so as not to alert others that someone has arrived. -The arrival animation should be almost instantly cause the ship to be visible and in motion, even if it remains blurred for a short period -The camera should focus on the spot where the ship will appear, not on the gate, or a wormhole where the ship would come from. This is so that a pilot can know where they will land and navigate accordingly.
Perhaps the gates shouldn't be directional? If we're talking wormholes, wouldn't a jump gate be more like a drain, rather than a gun?
So here's an idea:
The gate could keep it's appearance (for art-department time saving purposes) or be changed into a sort of caged wormhole.
When the gate is activated, a liquid-like arm can reach out and produce a vortex in front of the ship, which the ship is pulled into.
From the pilots point of view, the camera pans into a 'chase' point of view and the ship and camera are pulled into the wormhole.
Re-use the 'ship travelling through a planet' animation to emulate a wormhole.
Instead of a progress bar showing loading information, the camera can travel forward past the ship, and when the ship is no longer in view, the camera leaves the wormhole (possibly in a big flash)
The idea here is that the camera has exited the wormhole but the ship has not.
The camera emerges from the wormhole, and possibly a holograph of the ship (similar to the one in the captain's quarters) is portrayed in place of the cloaked ship that we use now. When the client gives the ship new orders, the wormhole opens and the ship emerges from the liquid-arm vortex, and the hologram fades and is replaced with the ship.
Specific points on the gate could be deemed as locations the arm could come from, and they could bend to reach the ship, so that it doesn't clip when going from the wormhole, through the metal gate, and to the ship. Wormholes are generally portrayed in this bendy-manner, so it would work to the advantage.
So, more or less, you have the same as you do now, the ship gets eaten by a wormhole, and appears on the other end, but it's done in a way that makes sense to the player, and the transition hides the seams.
That's my main concern, it feels wrong and the line between technology and immersion is very rough in this particular spot.
This is also an issue with docking, but to such a minor extent that I don't think docking warrents as much, if any, work. |
YuuKnow
Planetary Purchasing
669
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Posted - 2013.03.03 02:42:00 -
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How about keeping the animation similar to the current animation with the exception of adding some mild electricity effects that shot from the gate to evelope the ship. The mission warp gates used to have a similar effect before it was changed and it was a nice touch.
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Aldarin Prefect
Black Mesa Mining Company Quixotic Hegemony
1
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Posted - 2013.03.03 03:24:00 -
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Awesome idea. I could always go for more immersion. Get on it CCP |
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
1003
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Posted - 2013.03.03 03:28:00 -
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i bet they are going to put a 5 men team on this,call it Team Jumpgate and ask for more ideas. and then do nothing . R.S.I2014
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Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries Push Interstellar Network
272
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Posted - 2013.03.03 07:51:00 -
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In all seriousness the problem here stems from the fact that probably 90% of travel time spent in Eve happens in an uncontrollable system that is mid-warp. Jumping from system to system is exactly the same thing but without a graphic. We just disappear in system A then reappear cloaked in system B. A way to solve this would be to allow the camera to follow the pulse of light to the star (causing the screen to fade to white) but then show a "landing" with the gate receiving you and spitting you 15km off with a similar burst of light only visible in your client. This also needs to be metered... either we all jump/transition at the same speed or my SSD continues to have me loaded in a split second, I disable the animation and I'm on my way to the next gate. Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX |
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
269
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Posted - 2013.03.03 07:59:00 -
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it's a game. deal with it. |
Durzel
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
114
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:37:00 -
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Ryuu Shi wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Fourth. SO much win if we can get something this close to Jump Gate animations... hell I'll just jump from one system to another for hours just to watch it.... or youtube it. Whichever comes first. I think people nth'ing this are forgetting that in Mass Effect you went through a mass relay fairly infrequently relative to how much time you spent doing missions, etc. In Eve people are jumping through gates constantly.
Having an animation like that playing every time would get old very fast.
How about something like this? Obviously you'd remain in that tunnel for however long it takes your computer/internet/server to load you in. |
Dazram Two
Viziam Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.03.03 12:06:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:Fix the sound of Titan bridging and null sec jump bridges make. It is way to loud!!!
As for gate effects, I do not think CCP should put energy on that. I would prefer they remove them and introduce inter-system travel instead.
THIS |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1019
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Posted - 2013.03.03 12:39:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:Well fancy that. Someone else thinks that making the most common activity in eve a tad more immersive is a good idea:)
It's the most common activity in the game only because CCP has made it typical to jump 35j to get anywhere. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not sitting there at every gate watching the animation.
A better idea would be to update the way we travel through New Eden, like public jump bridges that require an ISK fee to utilize. Then make that animation something cool and amazing.
or
Update something else. HTFU!...for the children! |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
595
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Posted - 2013.03.03 15:53:00 -
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Durzel wrote:I think people nth'ing this are forgetting that in Mass Effect you went through a mass relay fairly infrequently relative to how much time you spent doing missions, etc. In Eve people are jumping through gates constantly. Having an animation like that playing every time would get old very fast. How about something like this? Obviously you'd remain in that tunnel for however long it takes your computer/internet/server to load you in.
This is actually sort of how it used to be before Apocrypha. The gates had almost that same animation between firing. And I believe that is how people going into a gate is supposed to work if you look at this trailer for Dominion. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Sentamon
712
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Posted - 2013.03.03 16:07:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:CCP Sisyphus wrote:Well fancy that. Someone else thinks that making the most common activity in eve a tad more immersive is a good idea:) It's the most common activity in the game only because CCP has made it typical to jump 35j to get anywhere. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not sitting there at every gate watching the animation. A better idea would be to update the way we travel through New Eden, like public jump bridges that require an ISK fee to utilize. Then make that animation something cool and amazing. or Update something else.
That which has been made can be unmade!
Personally I'd love less frequent and time consuming travel so the EVE universe doesn't feel so small. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
240
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Posted - 2013.03.03 16:46:00 -
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I'd prefer this over the disappear/reappear animations, alignment shouldn't have to be a requirement or at least make it so bumping can't stop people from jumping.
+1 [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |
Commander Imran
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
0
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:48:00 -
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Reicine Ceer
Rodents of Unusual Size The Rat Race
174
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Posted - 2013.03.04 00:35:00 -
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Ending credits animation of the starfields and nebulae at the end of Thor.
/thread :) |
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
57
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Posted - 2013.04.26 18:13:00 -
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Just announced in Odessey, excited to see it! |
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