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Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:05:00 -
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Whats the going rate these days?
And if the cargo is worth less that that figure, it's not worth ganking right?
Edit: assuming hisec obviously. As long as there's dudes left to kill, EVE is alive. |
Hixeppa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:10:00 -
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As low as 6 Taloses (600M) in a 0.5 system. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
2334
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:14:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:And if the cargo is worth less that that figure, it's not worth ganking right? If it's less than twice that figure, if you're going for profit. Loot has 50% chance of dropping, so statistically you'd need to gank something which pays out 2x the worth of the ships you're using to make up for your loss. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec FW operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:18:00 -
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...and hope you don't get shafted by the RNG and get lousy drops |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2459
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:19:00 -
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Hixeppa wrote:As low as 6 Taloses (600M) in a 0.5 system.
Plus paid profit since the people won't be doing it for free. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
130
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Posted - 2013.02.18 00:25:00 -
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And also they take a sec hit which they need to grind up or burn an alt for. Nowon will do that for 10 mil
Anything more than 2bil and i would be webbing with a daredevil or something. |
Wescro2
New Order Logistics CODE.
10
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Posted - 2013.02.18 01:02:00 -
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How valuable does cargo have to be before the Obelisk is at risk in high sec? In the right place, at the right time, as little as 13m ISK. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2460
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Posted - 2013.02.18 01:05:00 -
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Wescro2 wrote:How valuable does cargo have to be before the Obelisk is at risk in high sec? In the right place, at the right time, as little as 13m ISK.
We gank reds for free. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
359
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Posted - 2013.02.18 01:12:00 -
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CCP really needs to show what was in plastic wrap when the gank happens. |
Ptraci
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
1255
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Posted - 2013.02.18 02:04:00 -
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Do your own math? |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6822
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Posted - 2013.02.18 03:13:00 -
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Wescro2 wrote:How valuable does cargo have to be before the Obelisk is at risk in high sec? In the right place, at the right time, as little as 13m ISK.
it was hauling something double wrapped
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Wescro2
New Order Logistics CODE.
11
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:39:00 -
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Ah I see. So unless there was some devious contract fraud / intel involved, the gankers rolled a dice on the hidden cargo. It could've been worthless, but I'm sure even seemingly empty freighters are filled with 780,000 m3 of Grade A extra-virgin tears. |
Oxandrolone
Bite Me inc Bitten.
130
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Posted - 2013.02.18 04:59:00 -
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If somewon plastic wraps they are obviously hiding stuff that is worth ganking, if i was ganking this would make me gank them even more. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2743
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Posted - 2013.02.18 06:53:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote:If somewon plastic wraps they are obviously hiding stuff that is worth ganking, if i was ganking this would make me gank them even more.
Or are a member of RFF/Push, who routinely double wrap their cargo because it's the simplest way to use in corp contracting alts for out of corp Freighters. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
394
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Posted - 2013.02.18 07:20:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Plus paid profit since the people won't be doing it for free.
Why? Even sec status can be grinded back to +5 in few days. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
309
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:46:00 -
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Klymer wrote:...and hope you don't get shafted by the RNG and get lousy drops Hmm, so what if you carry 10 packaged vindicators and 1,000,000 stacks of a single unit of tritanium? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2749
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Posted - 2013.02.18 08:56:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Klymer wrote:...and hope you don't get shafted by the RNG and get lousy drops Hmm, so what if you carry 10 packaged vindicators and 1,000,000 stacks of a single unit of tritanium?
The server would be unhappy, then flip 1,000,010 (or 1,000,001) virtual coins independently of each other.
Probabilistically, if you were to gank enough of those, you'd get an average of 500,000 Trit and 5 Vindicators from each gank. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Whitehound
850
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:34:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Klymer wrote:...and hope you don't get shafted by the RNG and get lousy drops Hmm, so what if you carry 10 packaged vindicators and 1,000,000 stacks of a single unit of tritanium? It should not matter. You will still have a 50%-chance of seeing those Vindis drop. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
395
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:39:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Klymer wrote:...and hope you don't get shafted by the RNG and get lousy drops Hmm, so what if you carry 10 packaged vindicators and 1,000,000 stacks of a single unit of tritanium? The server would be unhappy, then flip 1,000,010 (or 1,000,001) virtual coins independently of each other. Probability tells us that, if you were to gank enough of those, you'd get an average of 500,000 Trit and 5 Vindicators from each gank.
Then make it so those Vindis drop always. Problem solved! |
Arronicus
Brave Newbies Inc.
203
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Posted - 2013.02.18 10:42:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Plus paid profit since the people won't be doing it for free. Why? Even sec status can be grinded back to +5 in few days.
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask why people wouldn't be doing something that is done to make money, for free?
Do you typically go out and mine minerals, and give them all away for free, because someone asked you to do it? No. You do it with the intent to make isk. In this case, it is gambling, but where you are hedging your bets, with the expectation of making at least a certain value. And sec status can be grinded back to +5 from a single gank in an hour or 2. |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2468
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:08:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Plus paid profit since the people won't be doing it for free. Why? Even sec status can be grinded back to +5 in few days.
People who regularly gank are doing it for profit. Why would you regularly gank something if you were guarunteed to make nothing from it? Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Google Voices
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.02.18 19:43:00 -
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Solution, don't drive Hwy 80 in Kuwait, knowing it's going to be bombed.
"Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that GÇ£one day Veritas will come up to me and say GÇÿhey I fixed off-grid boostingGÇÖGÇ¥, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle." |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2751
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Posted - 2013.02.18 22:58:00 -
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Google Voices wrote:Solution, don't drive Hwy 80 in Kuwait in a Flatbed loaded with gold, knowing it's going to be bombed.
FYP This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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