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James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
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Posted - 2014.04.12 15:57:00 -
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Sentenced 1989 wrote:
Erhmm.. we use bastion, and 2 slot tank and don't even use a-type invuls and works as a charm in VG's
Though, it does mostly lock you into multiples of 5min, and even hulls with t1 resist profile can be single slot + 1 t1 rig tanked with a B type invuln. Can't speak for true minimum with armor. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Sentenced 1989
Quantum Anomaly Corporation
43
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Posted - 2014.04.12 20:21:00 -
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James Baboli wrote:Sentenced 1989 wrote:
Erhmm.. we use bastion, and 2 slot tank and don't even use a-type invuls and works as a charm in VG's
Though, it does mostly lock you into multiples of 5min, and even hulls with t1 resist profile can be single slot + 1 t1 rig tanked with a B type invuln. Can't speak for true minimum with armor.
At the moment we can't be arsed to change the rigs, so Vargur, Kronos, Paladin each have 1 resist module, 1 repper, 1 damage control just in case (not really needed), and one rig for tank (not really needed).
As far as locking you into position, thats not the problem, after few sites you get the hang when to turn it off. We do have 2 safeguards for to much damage when you are out of bastion: 1) Common sense - If you are taking to much damage, give it one more cycle lol 2) If you can't be arsed for one more cycle yell on comms for few seconds of remote reps from you buddies, it's team sport after all
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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1018
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Posted - 2014.04.26 14:04:00 -
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Bump
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Talia Valta
Valta Industries
4
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Posted - 2014.04.28 11:21:00 -
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Hi,
Firstly, thanks for all the info you guys have provided, it's been a great help.
Secondly, I'd like to try out a few incursions but I've never done it before.
I'm willing to work from the ground up as it would be a challenge to learn something new on this scale.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a english speaking, EU tz fleets, and training provider please?
Once again thanks for all the info.
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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1018
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Posted - 2014.04.28 13:55:00 -
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Talia Valta wrote:Hi,
Firstly, thanks for all the info you guys have provided, it's been a great help.
Secondly, I'd like to try out a few incursions but I've never done it before.
I'm willing to work from the ground up as it would be a challenge to learn something new on this scale.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a english speaking, EU tz fleets, and training provider please?
Once again thanks for all the info.
If your just starting out you probably are working on a finite budget, assuming that's correct I would say pop into TVP's (The Valhalla Project) chat and see what you can afford to bring that they will accept in a fleet.
If I am wrong and you have a fairly generous budget you can try some of the more 'high end only' groups like ISN, WIN, Warp To Me, and Helix. As far as picking the right one goes? I would recommend any of them as a good group to start with, or stay with.
Be honest on what you can afford and what you have skills for, and they will work with you to get the right fit and ISK to make it work better.
All that being said pretty much any group listed in the OP will do the same thing in getting you started and making you feel comfortable, it is to their benefit to have well prepared and qualified pilots willing to form up and make ISK, hope that helps a little.
Feel free to ask as questions in chat channels, here in the forums or on voice comms the more you ask the less likely there will be a misunderstanding that relieves you or someone your supposed to be protecting of their ship, .
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
25
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:26:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote: *snipped*
If your just starting out you probably are working on a finite budget, assuming that's correct I would say pop into TVP's (The Valhalla Project) chat and see what you can afford to bring that they will accept in a fleet.
If I am wrong and you have a fairly generous budget you can try some of the more 'high end only' groups like ISN, WIN, Warp To Me, and Helix. As far as picking the right one goes? I would recommend any of them as a good group to start with, or stay with. *more good advice snipped*
Warp To Me is actually only a "high end only" about the needed resists and tank. While their fits want a deadspace EM passive with the t2 invulns, these are still relatively cheap compared to the cost of a hull, and WTM is still officially first come, first in. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1020
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Posted - 2014.05.12 22:23:00 -
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Added TIG and a link to their web page to the OP.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Oxide Ammar
120
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Posted - 2014.05.14 08:27:00 -
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Is this fit viable after Kronos drones changes hit live ?
[Dominix Navy Issue, Incursion]
Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Tracking Speed Script Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Tracking Speed Script Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L 425mm Railgun II, Javelin L 425mm Railgun II, Javelin L 425mm Railgun II, Javelin L 425mm Railgun II, Javelin L 425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Core Defense Field Extender II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Garde II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Curator II x5
Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Motion Prediction MR-703 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-903 Zainou 'Deadeye' Large Hybrid Turret LH-1003
Taking into consideration that fit can do slightly better dps with faction/deadspace(?) DDA that will introduced. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1021
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Posted - 2014.05.14 15:18:00 -
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Oxide Ammar wrote:Is this fit viable after Kronos drones changes hit live ?
[Dominix Navy Issue, Incursion]
''Fit Clipped out''. I honestly don't have a good answer for you, the major problem of using a drone boat is having to sit on your drones during a site. Most fleets (For AS and HQ) move a few times during the site to keep the range at optimal for as long as possible, so dropping drones then scooping drones then drop again seems a little inefficient to me. Not to mention if a drone gets room agro and pops the aggro swap almost always goes all over the place rather than to another single boat, this make the Logi's life a living hell and can cause a lot of stress on comms.
I guess we will just have to wait and see, perhaps a innovative FC or Group can come up with a way to make the benefits of using drones outweigh the disadvantages inherent in their use.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Konyali Loki
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.15 14:41:00 -
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hey,
I used to run vanguards with armor legion ( we blitzed with tdf group) back then the legion was a popular chiose of a ship
how about now? legion is still accepted in vanguards? |
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Xylem Viliana
Protomonolithic
183
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Posted - 2014.05.15 15:51:00 -
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Konyali Loki wrote:hey,
I used to run vanguards with armor legion ( we blitzed with tdf group) back then the legion was a popular chiose of a ship
how about now? legion is still accepted in vanguards?
Legion does still work in VG's. I dont think it is as effective as it once was but i believe that a legion is still accepted within TDF. |
Marc Callan
Nuclear Manhattan Limited
447
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:36:00 -
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Having flown with WTM, it's not so much that they demand a deadspace EM shield amp, it's that they don't want an active EM hardener that'll crap out if you get hit by neuts and leave you with a wide-open EM resistance hole, and with lower compensation skills, it takes a deadspace amp to get you to 70%. I was accepted into my first WTM fleet with a TeFI with a Guristas EM amp (thanks to decent compensation skills) and nothing else over T2. "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1074
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Posted - 2014.05.16 12:54:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:Having flown with WTM, it's not so much that they demand a deadspace EM shield amp, it's that they don't want an active EM hardener that'll crap out if you get hit by neuts and leave you with a wide-open EM resistance hole, and with lower compensation skills, it takes a deadspace amp to get you to 70%. I was accepted into my first WTM fleet with a TeFI with a Guristas EM amp (thanks to decent compensation skills) and nothing else over T2.
Quick let's all trash our Pith-As invuln because we might cap out under Otuni's neuts leaving us with a gaping omni hole... |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
25
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Posted - 2014.05.19 09:03:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Marc Callan wrote:Having flown with WTM, it's not so much that they demand a deadspace EM shield amp, it's that they don't want an active EM hardener that'll crap out if you get hit by neuts and leave you with a wide-open EM resistance hole, and with lower compensation skills, it takes a deadspace amp to get you to 70%. I was accepted into my first WTM fleet with a TeFI with a Guristas EM amp (thanks to decent compensation skills) and nothing else over T2. Quick let's all trash our Pith-As invuln because we might cap out under Otuni's neuts leaving us with a gaping omni hole... There's a reason WTM is listed as a training channel. People may not know to spam hardeners when under neuts, lie about fits, etc. WTM's resist profile makes sense, given their target demographic. Still can't understand the LSE on rohks though. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Sentenced 1989
Quantum Anomaly Corporation
54
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Posted - 2014.05.21 12:09:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Added TIG and a link to their web page to the OP.
Thank you for editing link, cheers
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Tabs27
Resilient Roamers
23
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Posted - 2014.06.05 09:45:00 -
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Hey, could you add my Incursions in please? I founded RsRm Incursions and FC shield vanguards weekly, my channel is 'RsRm Incursions'. Thanks! [Videos] EVE Online Youtube Playlists: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318601 |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1038
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Posted - 2014.06.05 13:56:00 -
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Tabs27 wrote:Hey, could you add my Incursions in please? I founded RsRm Incursions and FC shield vanguards weekly, my channel is 'RsRm Incursions'. Thanks! Hey Tabs27, I have been away from the game due to lack of reliable Internet for the last few months, so I have been relegated to forum warrior and skill training only, so I haven't had the opportunity to check on your group and see how and what you fly. So a little more information is needed like armor or shield, and what times you fly and I will get your group added to the OP.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Sentenced 1989
Quantum Anomaly Corporation
67
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Posted - 2014.06.07 22:10:00 -
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Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D
We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D
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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1039
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Posted - 2014.06.07 22:38:00 -
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Sentenced 1989 wrote:Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D
We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D It's all very confusing, Shield...Armour...Hull...
Fixed it for you, sort of, still had to drop you in one or the other so we will leave you in shield fleets this month
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
Sentenced 1989
Quantum Anomaly Corporation
67
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Posted - 2014.06.08 07:16:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Sentenced 1989 wrote:Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D
We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D It's all very confusing, Shield...Armour...Hull... Fixed it for you, sort of, still had to drop you in one or the other so we will leave you in shield fleets this month
Thank you.
Thing is, we use marauders and fly VG's only, local tanked, so we can allow ourselves both types of ships. However, we do take ships from local in time to time and we prefer them to be shield so we can more easily spider rep them...
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Ahz
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.06.08 18:17:00 -
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Thanks for the extremely useful thread.
90M SP Toon away from the game for two years.
Think Incursions might be a great way to get back into the game.
I can fit and fly a Mach but don't want to lay down the 1.5b - 2.0b ISK to get all shiny unless just to try them out.
I've got a Tempest lying around that I can pimp out, or am I better off bringing a Scimi (logistics 5 cap stable)?
Would probably only want to fly one or two missions like this to convince myself this is the right investment.
If I like it I'll happily spring for the blingy Mach. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
28
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Posted - 2014.06.08 18:26:00 -
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Ahz wrote:Thanks for the extremely useful thread.
90M SP Toon away from the game for two years.
Think Incursions might be a great way to get back into the game.
I can fit and fly a Mach but don't want to lay down the 1.5b - 2.0b ISK to get all shiny unless just to try them out.
I've got a Tempest lying around that I can pimp out, or am I better off bringing a Scimi (logistics 5 cap stable)?
Would probably only want to fly one or two missions like this to convince myself this is the right investment.
If I like it I'll happily spring for the blingy Mach. If you can fly good logi, it is more likely to get some kind of fleet much more quickly than a standard tempest. while lows and highs are almost universal (3 CPR, damage control or sigamp) mids vary from 5 links to 2 links for unshiny scimi based on community. Carrying the following is likely to help you get fleet fastest if you are agnostic about community: 5 TLs, preferably faction Afterburner 2 Invulns 2 t1 or 1 t2 data analyzer (used to be codebreaker)
Only a small number of communities use MWD scimis, but for those you need: MWD 2 cap recharger That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1068
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Posted - 2014.06.20 14:08:00 -
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Bump for access.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
35
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Posted - 2014.06.22 16:03:00 -
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Member of CSM is trying to get feedback about incursions and things people want to see. So give the nice man your input, and say thanks mike. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1079
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Posted - 2014.06.22 19:20:00 -
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I can see the primary concern of everyone involved is the dysfunction of NCN's and alternatives on how to fix that. Perhaps a better suggestion is to do away with them al together, design a new site with similar in EHP and difficulty, but designed to use the 60km travel to gates, and a medium tower bash under continuous fire, as a way of prepping and training for the HQ TCRC sites.
TCRC; We lose the most ships to this site (even more than Mom's) and it's usually due to the player inexperience with this particular type of site, combined with 40 on grid, cluttered Coms, and little to no real way to explain it other than throw them in the pool and hope they swim.
I don't think anyone would miss the NCN's regardless of how they are tweaked, but a training ground for the more difficult TCRC's would be a helpful added advantage to the community as a whole.
Edit; Ack Ignore me I posted in the wrong thread, was meant for the one James linked.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
35
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Posted - 2014.06.22 19:45:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote: TCRC; We lose the most ships to this site (even more than Mom's) and it's usually due to the player inexperience with this particular type of site, combined with 40 on grid, cluttered Coms, and little to no real way to explain it other than throw them in the pool and hope they swim.
I don't think anyone would miss the NCN's regardless of how they are tweaked, but a training ground for the more difficult TCRC's would be a helpful added advantage to the community as a whole.
Edit; Ack Ignore me I posted in the wrong thread, was meant for the one James linked.
TCRCs aren't that bad. If you run boosts and the 70% resist profile, they can be done with 5 logi. It's a minimum of 6 for the 65% resist profile. More problematic is people not broadcasting on time, and then panicing into crapping up coms. This is where real FCing comes in, and you have to calm your fleet the heck down, and back on track. I would not like to see a TCRC lite in place of the splint gate NCNs, but most people who have flown with me will agree that I'm a bit silly. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
1081
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Posted - 2014.06.23 19:20:00 -
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Good news for Assault Systems. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4740121#post4740121 Coming in August, NCN's sites limited to 'At most half of the sites in system'
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state,-áOnce you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
37
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Posted - 2014.06.23 20:09:00 -
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Still pushing to open them up for Command ships, because then spare boost toons have a way to make isk. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Keith Planck
Hard Knocks Inc.
808
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Posted - 2014.06.25 18:38:00 -
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NCO marauders, I'm feelin' it I love my butt. |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
82
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Posted - 2014.06.25 19:10:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:NCO marauders, I'm feelin' it
TIG runs Marauder fleets. There's also a boxer who runs a fleet of paladins. |
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