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Saveritrader
Sav Trading
10
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:16:00 -
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Hey there,
After the great success of my previous (and in the later stages) bond, I am now at a point that I need to increase my capital again to fill the void the other bond is creating.
For that reason, I am now setting up a second bond at slightly different rates, making it easier managable and still a very fruitful collaboration between the investors and myself. The rates are noted down on the bottom of this thread.
The bond will be slightly bigger than the previous one aswell, as I had noticed that the best profits were at the peak of my capital. The total bond value is 20 Billion ISK this time.
If you want to invest, please contact me through EVEmail or just post on this thread if you prefer. I will gladly give out API details if you prefer, just contact me.
Quote:20 Billion ISK Bond Interest: 7.5% / 2 Weeks (Every saturday)Repayment: 25% / 2 Weeks (8 Week duration)
| Current Investors | CURRENT REMAINING: 8B (INITIAL: 20B)
- Aysel Coskun- 2,000,000,000.00- 100% Remaining
- Lux Imperator-10,000,000,000.00- 100% Remaining
Current Trade Statistics
Quote:
- Wallet: 5,389,178,715.55 ISK
- Escrow: 2,969,713,957.00 ISK
- Sales, Assets: 1,040,197,127.53 ISK
- External Activities: 5,650,000,000.00 ISK
- Current NAV: 15,049,089,800.08 ISK
- Investments: 5,660,000,000.00 ISK
Other / Previous Bonds
- [LINK] - 10 Billion ISK Bond, started 19/01/2013
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Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
21
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:23:00 -
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10 B ISK sent.
I hope this one is as successful as the last one! |
Diesel Phumes
State Protectorate Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:33:00 -
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Hey Saver,
I've watched your other bonds go through to completion, and I appreciate the fact that you have fulfilled your commitments. I don't plan on being an investor in your bond, so my thoughts/comments may be completely irrelevant. Considering everything you have done to contribute to these forums, if something were to happen to this 20M bond, a lot more than what was gained stands to be lost.
I want to remind you that the borrower is always slave to the lender. Why not free yourself from the oppressive grip of servitude, enjoy the wealth you have created, and attack a different segment of the market which might create higher returns with a decreased amount of capital. I'd be happy to discuss, through Evemail, a segment I'm tearing up that could definitely withstand a little more competition. These bonds are just holding you back at this point ;)
Cheers M8 |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading
11
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Posted - 2013.02.18 23:38:00 -
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Diesel Phumes wrote:Hey Saver,
I've watched your other bonds go through to completion, and I appreciate the fact that you have fulfilled your commitments. I don't plan on being an investor in your bond, so my thoughts/comments may be completely irrelevant. Considering everything you have done to contribute to these forums, if something were to happen to this 20M bond, a lot more than what was gained stands to be lost.
I want to remind you that the borrower is always slave to the lender. Why not free yourself from the oppressive grip of servitude, enjoy the wealth you have created, and attack a different segment of the market which might create higher returns with a decreased amount of capital. I'd be happy to discuss, through Evemail, a segment I'm tearing up that could definitely withstand a little more competition. These bonds are just holding you back at this point ;)
Cheers M8
Heh, I appreciate the positivity :-) I personally have a goal to reach with my personal wealth, and when I do reach that point I will most likely stop with these bonds and continue on my own pockets. If I ever reach a roadblock of some kind, I will just repay the full bond including interest out of my own pockets, although I don't foresee any in the near future. So until then, I will most likely use these bonds so I have sufficient capital to fulfill all my operations I have worked out, and as soon as I have all my operations running and the bonds repaid I will be running them from my own capital.
It's quite the opposite, these bonds are allowing me to pursue bigger goals for now :-) |
terzslave
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2013.02.19 03:48:00 -
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I would like to invest 6bil if there's still room left. |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.02.19 04:50:00 -
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..If you still have room left, I'd like to see the API. |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
115
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Posted - 2013.02.19 07:12:00 -
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I don't usually like to be the one to comment on things like these. I mean if I am wrong the possibility is that I come away from it looking like an ass. On the other hand, at times I have this desire to be able to say "I told you so". But in order to do that, I think I am required to say it out loud. But still a part of me hope that Saveritrader will prove me wrong. If not I got to say those four little magic words. It's almost a win win for me
I will start of with a little light reading. Vote on Jerry as our Messiah!
This is something I am always very wary of, it is a very simple way to get more ISK deposited then will show on the forum.
Quote:If you want to invest, please contact me through EVEmail
And finally two sayings that I believe has some value.
"A fool and his money...."
"If it looks to good to be true...."
That said, please prove me wrong and good luck Saveritrader! |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading
11
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Posted - 2013.02.19 08:34:00 -
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Heh, as usual I do understand fully where you come from and I can't guarantee safety further than my own words. However, I will gladly prove you wrong and show that human decency is not impossible on the internets :-) |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.02.19 09:59:00 -
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..It's the only conclusion. I'll call it the scammers dilemma. At some point, paying back x amount of isk to investors, just doesn't make financial sense for the borrower.
The only reason to pay the isk back is morals and integrity. And rep grinding.
Out of those three, the only one that is tangible is rep grinding.
Otherwise, good lock Sav. Good luck investors. |
Erialor Godsent
Federal Navy Support Divison
5
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Posted - 2013.02.19 12:15:00 -
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I'd like to dip in with 1bill - if there's still room? |
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Saveritrader
Sav Trading
11
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:31:00 -
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For previous investors I had a portion of this bond reserved until tomorrow, so ofcourse you are able to invest 1 billion ISK :-) |
Erialor Godsent
Federal Navy Support Divison
5
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Posted - 2013.02.19 18:15:00 -
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1bill sent your way :) |
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
106
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Posted - 2013.02.19 22:32:00 -
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Asking to reserve 2b for me. But will be back on friday only. DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
Aysel Coskun
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:21:00 -
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confirming that 2b isk has been sent |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
13
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Posted - 2013.02.20 16:18:00 -
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I haven't heard back from Syds or terzslave in quite some time now, so I'm opening up their reserved spots if anyone would like to cut him or herself in.
Claire Coffee's reservation has been noted down. |
Penny Boots
Beer and Bait
0
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:34:00 -
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Is there a minimum buy in? |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
13
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:53:00 -
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There isn't really a minimum buy-in, but ofcourse bigger investments are preferred due to the extra hassle if I'd only get small investors. So as long as it's not 100k, you are free to put in whatever you like. |
Dean Ozuwara
Moradin Corporation
7
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:44:00 -
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5bil sent |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
96
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:24:00 -
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Great to see more bonds coming to MD & not be trolled to bad.
Hey Saver, can you pls post a screenshot of the Journal, sorted by "player Donations", publically for us all to see. with that filter set, none of your trades are shown.
Any answer other than yes, and ill consider this a scammy poo, sowwy. I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:29:00 -
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..I can't knock Sav anymore. I said all I had to say in the previous thread.
I really hope that this one goes just as well. |
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Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
96
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:36:00 -
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Syds Sinclair wrote:..I can't knock Sav anymore. I said all I had to say in the previous thread.
I really hope that this one goes just as well.
if he comes up with that unedited screenie, i won;t be knocking him either I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Joshua Vaughn Lampen
Alzhara Industries Beacon Light Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:38:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Great to see more bonds coming to MD & not be trolled to bad.
It's only because I seem to attract all their attention... |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
98
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:25:00 -
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Joshua Vaughn Lampen wrote:Candy Oshea wrote:Great to see more bonds coming to MD & not be trolled to bad. It's only because I seem to attract all their attention...
Prove them wrong by doing the right thing then.
Last laugh = best laugh.
how bout that screenie OP? I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:31:00 -
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..Great call Candy. NOW we can get the popcorn. |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
13
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:36:00 -
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Lol, quite a conversation. Anyway, as for the printscreens:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/screen1wzl.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/screen2qzw.jpg/
I occassionally take out a little bit of isk to buy modules and whatnot, but I usually put it back in before a repayment. If you guys want to see more lines, just let me know. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
99
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:45:00 -
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Well that sure shut me up.
In case ppl are wondering, i asked for the screenies to check ppl sent him isk (alt posting)
Block those scammers dude lol I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
23
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Posted - 2013.02.21 09:47:00 -
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Candy Oshea wrote:Well that sure shut me up. In case ppl are wondering, i asked for the screenies to check ppl sent him isk (alt posting) Block those jita scammers dude lol E: thanks champ, good luck on bond
Ah Candy! I feel somehow insulted that you considered me an alt.
You know.. I am a real human being and I have feelings that are hurt now :P
Also what alts come from different PVP corporations from null sec? That is treason for anyone that does that as you are not allowed to hold alts in other pvp null corporations if you are already in one. |
Candy Oshea
Techfree Investment Group
100
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Posted - 2013.02.21 09:56:00 -
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Lux Imperator wrote: Also what alts come from different PVP corporations from null sec? That is treason for anyone that does that as you are not allowed to hold alts in other pvp null corporations if you are already in one.
"not allowed" is not used in this game, you must be thinking RL
Its gotto make you feel better about your investment though!
I like your name I've accidentally swallowed some Scrabble tiles. My next **** could spell disaster.
iCandy |
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
106
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:35:00 -
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I've sent 2B. Happy trading :) DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:33:00 -
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Confirming reciept of that last 2b :-) The bond is now completely filled. First repayment for everyone except Claire (I'm sorry Claire, but you're a few days later than the rest, so you're getting special treatment) will be 2nd of March. |
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Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
106
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:42:00 -
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My birthday is on march 3rd, so I probably won't be online anyway Besides, I like payments on fridays, hehehe DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
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Posted - 2013.03.02 11:54:00 -
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Aysel Coskun, Lux Imperator, Erialor Godsent and terzslave have all recieved their first repayment. As for claire, I will probably pay you out somewhere along next week (Tuesday would be fair, you'll have waited about as long as the rest by then :-)) |
Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
26
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:11:00 -
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Repayment + interest received.
Well done!
Also as a suggestion, you should make in the OP a field were you show the current state of the repayment. I think this would do go good for you. |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
23
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:18:00 -
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I at the moment use a sheet where I have every seperate deposit logged, and calculate the repayments on there... But maybe for the investor's sake, I will edit the OP. |
Dean Ozuwara
Moradin Corporation
7
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Posted - 2013.03.02 13:01:00 -
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1st repayment + interest received |
Erialor Godsent
Federal Navy Support Divison
7
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Posted - 2013.03.02 14:14:00 -
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Dean Ozuwara wrote:1st repayment + interest received
Same goes for me :) |
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
120
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Posted - 2013.03.09 08:08:00 -
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Got my first repayment and interest yesterday, too :-) DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:09:00 -
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Just did the next repayments. I'll first close up this bond, before initiating the 30 billion one.
Everyone enjoy the ISK, I know I am :-) |
Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
33
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:15:00 -
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ISK received. I LIKE IT ! |
Dean Ozuwara
Moradin Corporation
7
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Posted - 2013.03.16 14:17:00 -
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2nd repayment + interest received, thank you sav :) |
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Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
154
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:39:00 -
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Got my second repayment with interest, too :-) Good going, thanks :-) DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
48
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:04:00 -
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Hey guys.
Do you know what happened to Saveritrader ? Did he say that he will be gone for some time ?
Thanks ! |
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
154
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:24:00 -
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Lux Imperator wrote:Hey guys.
Do you know what happened to Saveritrader ? Did he say that he will be gone for some time ?
Thanks !
Wondering myself too. I think there should have been a repayment cycle already. Could you update us on situation please, Sav? :-) DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
Saveritrader
Sav Trading Invictus Void
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Posted - 2013.04.16 10:46:00 -
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I'm terribly sorry for the radio silence I had for the past two weeks, there have been some RL dealings I have been consumed with. I have repaid the full bond today, including interest, so I hope you will all like the ISK recieved (even though a bit late!)
I will be active again starting today, but first have to sort out some stuff. I will probably start a new bond soon, but for that I need to update all of my numbers (which will take a while ) |
Dean Ozuwara
Moradin Corporation
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Posted - 2013.04.16 10:52:00 -
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3rd and 4th repayment + interest received together just now.
Late payments, but better than never. Honestly I wished Sav did take the step to inform us what was going on when both payments were late, especially the 3rd one, I was thinking it could be a scam and expecting to lose the isk :S
Anyway, thanks for the bond
Cheers, Dean |
Lux Imperator
Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda
48
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Posted - 2013.04.16 11:06:00 -
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Rest of the loan received + interest.
I know Sav is a good guy and I hope the reason for the RL problems wasn't a very serious one. Indeed would've been easier for everyone if he would inform us, but sometimes this can prove very hard when RL takes priority.
Welcome back ! |
Diesel Phumes
State Protectorate Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2013.04.16 11:48:00 -
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I knew Saver would pull through. Cheers to you good sir. |
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
154
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Posted - 2013.04.16 13:46:00 -
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Same as above. Received everything in full + interest. Hopefully everything goes well for you in RL, Sav.
Thanks for partnership :-) DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy |
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