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MIkhail Illiad
Fevered Imaginings
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Posted - 2013.02.19 13:59:00 -
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Not a "bring it back or I unsub" thread don't worry.
Just marking the passing of the original weapon layout of the first ship I ever really liked in EvE. It may have been a slightly underpowered rust heap but it was my rust heap and given the right circumstances it could perform great feats.
So long old buddy, you will be sorely missed.
There once was an interesting signature here... It has long since disapeared.-á |
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians Iberians.
55
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:08:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote:Not a "bring it back or I unsub" thread don't worry. Just marking the passing of the original weapon layout of the first ship I ever really liked in EvE. It may have been a slightly underpowered rust heap but it was my rust heap and given the right circumstances it could perform great feats. So long old buddy, you will be sorely missed. Why? just enjoy the new twist for the Cyclone as a missile boat.
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MIkhail Illiad
Fevered Imaginings
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Posted - 2013.02.19 14:14:00 -
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Quote:Why? just enjoy the new twist for the Cyclone as a missile boat.
Don't like missiles, so meh, will check out the new one for sure. Just gonna miss the old highslot layout. There once was an interesting signature here... It has long since disapeared.-á |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
351
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Posted - 2013.02.19 15:49:00 -
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Because smaller, less tanky missile platform is what everyone wanted. Right? |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
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Posted - 2013.02.19 16:15:00 -
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It is the fastest BC. It has two utility slots which are becoming a rarity as the ships get rebalanced. I'm thinking Heavies, snakes and Loki boosts in low-sec will be popular. |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.02.19 16:41:00 -
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I am kinda pumped to try out the Minmatar Drake. |
Demolishar
United Aggression
818
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Posted - 2013.02.19 16:53:00 -
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Sleipnir. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
594
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Posted - 2013.02.19 16:58:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:It is the fastest BC. It has two utility slots which are becoming a rarity as the ships get rebalanced. I'm thinking Heavies, snakes and Loki boosts in low-sec will be popular.
2 medium Neuts : check
650+dps with HAMs : check
imba fast BC : check
How can people not like it?
Tsk tsk tsk tsk *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Rezig Huruta
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
121
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Posted - 2013.02.19 17:37:00 -
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Where is the information saying that it will become a missile boat?
I love the cyclone, but haven't really trained deep into missiles. Guess I should start. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2013.02.19 17:39:00 -
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Rezig Huruta wrote:Where is the information saying that it will become a missile boat?
I love the cyclone, but haven't really trained deep into missiles. Guess I should start.
It became a missile boat today http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74270
Quote: Cyclone:
The Cyclone built a niche for itself thanks to the ancillary shield booster module, but since the ASB rebalance it has struggled to stay competitive. With the shield booster bonus being the only thing preventing the Cyclone from being simply a worse Hurricane, there was a severe lack of variety in the weapon systems of the Minmatar Battlecruiser lineup.
In 1.1 we have revamped the Cyclone as the Minmatar missile Battlecruiser. It has swapped the old projectile rate of fire bonus for an equivalent missile bonus, and seen a highslot move to a low. Along with the addition of extra shield HP and the continuation of the successful shield booster bonus, this creates a fast and flexible missile ship that can dictate the terms of many engagements. |
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sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
756
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Posted - 2013.02.19 20:58:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:I am kinda pumped to try out the Minmatar Drake.
Drake, minus buffer.
You must not be familiar with the missile experience. You do realize ppl use drakes for the buffer, despite missiles, not because of them, right? Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Seetesh
Hand of the Sword
25
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Posted - 2013.02.19 22:17:00 -
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The new cyclone is amazing ! Just give it a go. |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.02.19 22:55:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Orlacc wrote:I am kinda pumped to try out the Minmatar Drake. Drake, minus buffer. You must not be familiar with the missile experience. You do realize ppl use drakes for the buffer, despite missiles, not because of them, right?
Gosh and here I thought the Drake's buffer was reduced.
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yer mammy
Derp Inc
60
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Posted - 2013.02.19 23:12:00 -
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could be fun
[Cyclone, HAM] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Stasis Webifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x5
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
893
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Posted - 2013.02.20 01:52:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:It is the fastest BC. It has two utility slots which are becoming a rarity as the ships get rebalanced. I'm thinking Heavies, snakes and Loki boosts in low-sec will be popular.
Wow, that's thinking out of the box! Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed. http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.02.20 02:09:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Orlacc wrote:I am kinda pumped to try out the Minmatar Drake. Drake, minus buffer. You must not be familiar with the missile experience. You do realize ppl use drakes for the buffer, despite missiles, not because of them, right?
What? No, that's completely false.
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.02.20 06:32:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Orlacc wrote:I am kinda pumped to try out the Minmatar Drake. Drake, minus buffer. You must not be familiar with the missile experience. You do realize ppl use drakes for the buffer, despite missiles, not because of them, right?
Wrong. |
Roseline Penshar
Enlightened Academy
0
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:08:00 -
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what you guys suggest for 2 high slots that can't be place with missile to be?
projectile? energy vampire? energy neutralizer? or what? for pve or pvp.....ty in advance |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
243
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:24:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote:Quote:Why? just enjoy the new twist for the Cyclone as a missile boat. Don't like missiles, so meh, will check out the new one for sure. Just gonna miss the old highslot layout.
Don't mind him. He just loves his missiles.
Actually I never saw him in fleet with a turret/drone ship. Ever. |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2013.02.20 12:08:00 -
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Roseline Penshar wrote:what you guys suggest for 2 high slots that can't be place with missile to be?
projectile? energy vampire? energy neutralizer? or what? for pve or pvp.....ty in advance
im running with 2x 180mm acs in pve to help with frigates i guess in pvp you'd go with neuts to neut off tacklers while kiting
If you make a brawling cyclone with hams I guess you'd still have neuts |
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Roseline Penshar
Enlightened Academy
0
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Posted - 2013.02.21 11:37:00 -
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hmm i fit an 720mm howitzer in that 2 slots and it turn out well, sometimes the 2 arty outdamage 5 heavy missiles the cyclone have |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2013.02.21 11:53:00 -
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Roseline Penshar wrote:what you guys suggest for 2 high slots that can't be place with missile to be?
projectile? energy vampire? energy neutralizer? or what? for pve or pvp.....ty in advance
Depends on what you're trying to do. For pve, I'd definitely grab guns, for pvp it depends if you're ranged HM kiter (in which case it's guns) or a close in HAM brawler (in which case it's neuts). |
Trinkets friend
Minmatar-Amarr Man-Boy Love Association
908
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Posted - 2013.02.22 01:30:00 -
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The new Cyclone...well, it kinda tempts you to try fitting it in various ways but then ends up being slightly more difficult to achieve the result than you really want.
Single XL-ASB fits are doable with rigs, but you only have 19K EHP to back up the ASB when it runs out of charges. So it will be a glorious 35 seconds of tanking, and then poof, 90M ship down the turlet. Ubnless you automagically manage to cap your foe out with your 2 neuts.
Buffer-HAM fits look good, till you get to the whole pointy end of the exercise, which is where you miss the 5 turrets/3 launchers and the extra 120 DPS you'd get from a full buffer-gank setup. Now, only 570 DPS cold. Hardly an improvement.
In fact, you have so much PG spare, and an extra lowslot, you may as well run an armour ewar boat; 1600 plate, HAM/Neuts, and load the mids with TD's or RSD's.
Indeed, nanofag HML Cyclones may be the way to go, with low DPS and extreme nano overdose in the lows.
I am unconvinced.
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Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1194
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:24:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:It is the fastest BC. It has two utility slots which are becoming a rarity as the ships get rebalanced. I'm thinking Heavies, snakes and Loki boosts in low-sec will be popular. 2 medium Neuts : check 650+dps with HAMs : check imba fast BC : check How can people not like it? Tsk tsk tsk tsk
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You can't fit any of that with a proper tank, and you can't get more than 350 DPS from the HAMs.
Where I am. |
To mare
Advanced Technology
171
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Posted - 2013.02.22 09:59:00 -
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tbh i think if they would give to the drake 5 launchers it would still be a better option than the current cyclone
just sayin
edit i mean for pvp |
Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
494
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:02:00 -
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I miss the old cyclone. I miss using projectiles.
They cheated me out of my hurricane, and made my precious cyclone use missiles?
Does CCP hate projectile turrets? |
Mike Whiite
Cupid Stunts. Casoff
134
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:10:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about.
You can't fit any of that with a proper tank, and you can't get more than 350 DPS from the HAMs.
You're doing something wrong. |
To mare
Advanced Technology
171
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:15:00 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:Bloodpetal wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about.
You can't fit any of that with a proper tank, and you can't get more than 350 DPS from the HAMs.
You're doing something wrong. fitting a co-processor isnt that right either |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
784
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:00:00 -
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been using it as a HML kite fit, as i hate HAMs, it seems to be behind the drake still - since the drake does more damage and needs less BCUs.
So as far as the cyclone i used to know and love, its gone, lack of mids or tps and webs doesnt make the lure of HAMs so appealing when it comes to dealing with cruiser and smaller.
would be sweet if it got a bonus to rapid light launchers :D http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
185
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:39:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:You have no idea what you're talking about.
You can't fit any of that with a proper tank, and you can't get more than 350 DPS from the HAMs.
It's not really ment to be a brick. Fit it like the oldschool podla Drake with ASBs instead of the buffer and you'll get a really cool ship, sort of a BC sized stabby. You can easily get 340 dps with HMs, 450 with HAMs and a bit over 600 including a flight of medium drones (though I personally prefer a flight of lights and a flight of ecm drones for versatility). Double neut on both of course and assuming you actually want some tank and tackle. :p
To mare wrote:fitting a co-processor isnt that right either
My most used Merlin fit uses Auxiliary Power Core, my Corax and Manticore both have ancillary rigs and so on. Using a fitting mod is viable if the gain is worth it. You can fit a Large ASB without co-processor, or you can cram in an X-Large ASB and sacrifice a low for the co-processor, it's all a matter of preference. |
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