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Molenius Morrowinger
M - Intergalactics Inq.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:41:00 -
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As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides: 1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.
Advantages: 1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway), 2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs, 3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec, 4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.
Anything else? |
Abrazzar
855
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:44:00 -
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Another nerf highsec thread? Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
Alana Charen-Teng
Tash-Murkon Amalgamated Security
265
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:45:00 -
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If you want a PVP-free zone, then you're playing the wrong game. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
581
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:49:00 -
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This thread is new and original and certainly doesn't belong in the Features and Ideas forum.
But no, seriously, this thread concept has been beaten to death. No good will come of this thread. If I could login right now, I would bounty you for lawls, because your post makes me think you're the type of person who thinks this will create a killright. Too bad the "bounty from forums" feature doesn't exist. (Also a topic that has been beaten quite a bit)
Also..."no one suicides in 1.0 anyway" is a false statement based on an assumption which you didn't bother to look up. People definitely get ganked in 1.0s.
EDIT: Got the subforum name wrong. I'm Denzel Washington. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5847
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:49:00 -
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No, just no, that's an absolutely terrible idea, so bad in fact that you should be forced to biomass. If you want that go and play on the test server when non consensual PvP is restricted.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1183
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:51:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec. I think the second statement is a great idea. The first, well, others have covered that adequately. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
Molenius Morrowinger
M - Intergalactics Inq.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:54:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:This thread is new and original and certainly doesn't belong in the Ideas and Suggestions forum.
But no, seriously, this thread concept has been beaten to death. No good will come of this thread. If I could login right now, I would bounty you for lawls, because your post makes me think you're the type of person who thinks this will create a killright. Too bad the "bounty from forums" feature doesn't exist. (Also a topic that has been beaten quite a bit)
Also..."no one suicides in 1.0 anyway" is a false statement based on an assumption which you didn't bother to look up. People definitely get ganked in 1.0s.
He he, I'm still quite new to the game and trying to be constructive. It seems not the general rule in EVE instead it is easier to throw some crap in to other's face.
Thanks for pointing out the right forum though. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5847
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Posted - 2013.02.20 03:59:00 -
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Lol, don't take it the wrong way, it's just that the general idea gets brought up often and it's blasphemy to many of us that have been playing for years.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:04:00 -
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EVE has a zone free of non-consensual PvP.
It really does.
For those interested. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
581
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:11:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:Tah'ris Khlador wrote:This thread is new and original and certainly doesn't belong in the Ideas and Suggestions forum.
But no, seriously, this thread concept has been beaten to death. No good will come of this thread. If I could login right now, I would bounty you for lawls, because your post makes me think you're the type of person who thinks this will create a killright. Too bad the "bounty from forums" feature doesn't exist. (Also a topic that has been beaten quite a bit)
Also..."no one suicides in 1.0 anyway" is a false statement based on an assumption which you didn't bother to look up. People definitely get ganked in 1.0s. He he, I'm still quite new to the game and trying to be constructive. It seems not the general rule in EVE instead it is easier to throw some crap in to other's face. Thanks for pointing out the right forum though.
Bitter vet syndrom has clearly taken hold on me. Welcome to the forums. You should probably not bring up miner bumping, AFK cloaking, "Fix Nullsec/High sec," splitting servers into PVP/PVE, How CCP and Goons are in bed together, forum moderation, or the concept of forcing game styles on others to name just a few topics. All will get you trolled. Many will result in crap posting. Some will get locked.
Keep on trucking on, and definitely keep new posting new and original ideas because they may still have merit. Just do a forum search on the topic first. I'm Denzel Washington. |
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:21:00 -
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:frogout:
If only I could put in SA forums similes :sigh: You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1430
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Posted - 2013.02.20 04:58:00 -
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Hey...
Will you look at that. New wartargets. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
230
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:08:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides: 1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.
Advantages: 1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway), 2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs, 3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec, 4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.
Anything else?
Disadvantages: 1. Eve is no longer hard, or dark, with complete safe zones, ruining the core component of the game 2. People DO suicide gank in 1.0s, just not freighters 3. Low sec is currently terribly broken, with abysmall risk versus reward outside of Faction warfare. This will only further the amount of garbage space 4. This won't change where miners mine. Theres no ice 1.0 systems anyway, nor are there hardly any worth mining in anyway. Miners currently already have a way to be near gank immune (Tanked Skiffs), and choose not to do so, in favour of higher profits. 5. Prices will only go high as a result of the complete and ultimate collapse of trade in eve, which leads to point 6.
6. All highsec trade routes go through at least one 0.5 or 0.6 between trade hubs. It will become impossible, short of jump freightering, to safely move goods between, or eve TO trade hubs. Not to mention some of the current trade hubs will become low sec.
Thus, CCP will be forced to re-do the security status of every region of highsec, effectively to a map of the way it is now, with the only true change being that there will be significantly less high sec systems to drop towers in, and missions will pay out less (due to everything in highsec now being 0.7-1.0).
TL:DR If you think this is even remotely plausible, you haven't the faintest idea how Eve works. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:23:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides: 1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.
No. Terrible idea.
But if this ever happened, only
1.0 - 0-7: Lvl 1 missions only 1.0 - 0.7: No incursions 1.0 - 0.7: Veldspar only 1.0 - 0.7: No anchoring
would be some sort of trade off.
Do you really want this sort of EVE? Remove insurance. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:38:00 -
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I vote no.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:01:00 -
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/thread This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
yer mammy
Derp Inc
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:08:00 -
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i know you took your time to think this through so thoroughly and you may believe you're on to something grand...
but no. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:10:00 -
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The Veldgod has spoken.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |
Tubrug1
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:15:00 -
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Such a stupid idea and a fairly obvious troll. 3/10. In need of another generic blog to follow? Try this one www.tubrug1.blogspot.com |
Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:25:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs.
This has been mentioned several times before, and it could probably work if done right, still it's has it's pros and cons. |
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Darvaleth Sigma
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:34:00 -
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The OP's suggestion is a poor one, but there is a good idea behind it. Unfortunately he has not thought it through, hence these responses. He's probably doomed the idea to fail, but here's my suggestion:
Don't just blindly turn all 0.5-6 into lowsec. This is idiotic. Count how many 1.0 systems there are, make them PvP-free (have some kind of targeting-jammer system-wide). Then, make an EQUAL NUMBER of 0.5 systems into 0.4. That way you gain some extra lowsec, and there's some very safe hisec.
The idea of just cutting off vast swathes of hisec is ridiculous, but doing an equal trade is slightly less stupid.
EDIT: I still think as a whole it's stupid though. Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
Krazynikomo
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:42:00 -
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Allow bubbles and bombs everywhere. |
IsTHeRoD
Achozen Dueces TecH
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:43:00 -
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I have a better proposition. 1 validation of security status (agro other players) and you cant fly to 0.5 and above for 6 mounths.
1. Lowsec will be more populated by true pvp'ers . 2. no mo crying about no targets, fights in low. 3. pvp'ers happy high sec care.. happy ? 4. no more risk free ganking " pr0 pvp"...
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Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:56:00 -
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I don't understand what you want to achieve with this change. If anything there should be less security in highsec since the risk of losing a ship in PvP without a wardec is already close to nil and that in itself is a threat to the helath of whole economy. And what makes you think any carebear would be satisfied with only 1.0 systems ?!? I can guarantee that they will only see such change as proof that it can be done all over EVE. |
Ohanka
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:57:00 -
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0/10
Crapposting. |
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:00:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides: 1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.
Advantages: 1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway), 2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs, 3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec, 4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.
Anything else?
Please stay in a WH for the foreseeable future, until you have something sensible to say, Thanks.
Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
terzslave
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:01:00 -
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GTFO we don't want you. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:24:00 -
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Molenius Morrowinger wrote:As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides: 1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.
Advantages: 1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway), 2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs, 3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec, 4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.
Anything else?
What good does this do anybody? What problem does it solve? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2480
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:27:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Molenius Morrowinger wrote:As subj states if this is fair enough to do some changes which will acomodate both sides: 1.0 - becomes carebear heaven, 0.6 and 0.5 - becomes low sec.
Advantages: 1. High sec population get their pvp free zones (I think nobody suicides in 1.0 anyway), 2. Low sec expanded splitting high-sec in to isles fixing risk / reward issue when you need to take risk to trade between hubs, 3. mining in 1.0 will be depleted soon, meaning more miners need to play MMO style asking others for protecting and ops in mining in low sec, 4. Prices will go high fixing the economy inflation and increasing ship demand due to more losses.
Anything else? What good does this do anybody? What problem does it solve?
So he can safely undock a blinged out ship in Amarr with out the risk of being blown up before he can warp away. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Irya Boone
TIPIAKS
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Posted - 2013.02.20 11:56:00 -
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1.0-0.5 for missions only .. yes only poor veldspar in high sec ( 1 cycle in venture and the asteroid deplete)
No incursions In high sec it's a non sense never understood Why and How sanshas can come in a system do what they want without intervention of Concord or the navy BUTTTTTTTTTTTT if you have a sec status below -5 and in millitia you get hunted To death by the navy forces But sansho ?? no ? really ?
so for more sense NO incursions in High sec . no ice field in high sec neither Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
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