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Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:45:00 -
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Has CCP made and/or begun any plans to have DUST 514 on the next generation console? If CCP wants to make this game a vital component of EVE, then it's going to need to last as long as EVE does, so I'd assume they have contingency plans for the next console.
If CCP does release DUST 514 on the Playstation 4, will this be a port from the Playstation 3, an updated version of the game, or a complete sequel?
If CCP doesn't make plans to move DUST 514 to the next console, the game will be extremely short lived and it's death might have a negative impact on EVE if CCP plans on fully integrating it with our internet spaceships. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:49:00 -
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You want the DUST forum, not EVE General Discussion. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Azrin Stella Oerndotte
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:52:00 -
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Announced now, released in fall. |
Bane Veradun
Black Sun Dawning
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:54:00 -
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Since Dust is a downloadable game, it may very well transition easily. Considering the event is still going on, we'll have to wait and see for sure. While you only co-opt the darkness for your petty purposes, I was borne of the darkness. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:06:00 -
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I think we may safely expect a fairly big presentation on this at FANFEST in a few months.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:06:00 -
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the PS4 controller looks a lot like every other playstation controller
http://kotaku.com/5985768 "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:07:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:If CCP does release DUST 514 on the Playstation 4, will this be a port from the Playstation 3, an updated version of the game, or a complete sequel? Cheap as CCP are will this be an updated version, meaning, slightly better graphics, maybe more performance, but everything else will stay identical. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:18:00 -
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Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:31:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business.
Neither does Sony apparently as the PS3 is mainly not backwards compatible with PS2 "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:41:00 -
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There will be a PS4 Client. Its basically a ps3 client with prettier graphics.
PS3 support will continue until no longer fiscally viable then it will get retired and the ps4 client can then grow beyond ps3's capabilities.
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Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:51:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business.
Most PS3's can't play PS2 games.
And it has already been reported that the PS4 can not run PS3 games; you will have to wait for PS4 versions of them to become available for download from Sony. |
Lucy Terona
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:36:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business.
Wow, i'll bet you feel silly. |
Kalstrams
SHIVA NATARADGI Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2013.02.21 09:55:00 -
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more of the same topics |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2013.02.21 10:02:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business. Most PS3's can't play PS2 games. And it has already been reported that the PS4 can not run PS3 games; you will have to wait for PS4 versions of them to become available for download from Sony. Actually there is an app to play PS2 games in the PS store and it only doesn't work on one version of the console. That is the 40 gig version. All other versions of the PS3 can play any PS2 games that are in the PS store. Most of the games are even retouched a little bit so they look lots nicer now. |
Regat Kozovv
Alcothology
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Posted - 2013.02.21 11:05:00 -
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PS3 and PS4 are radically different architectures. Cell vs. x86. They're hardly similar.
However, CCP does have a Dust PC client. (Don't look at me like that, I know you do.) It's not been released as CCP still has an active exclusivity agreement with Sony.
In theory, it should be easy then to port the game to PS4, as CCP already has a x86 codebase. The PS4 is very conservative in its architecture, and shouldn't pose many problems.
The question will be just how much does money CCP will want to sink into this game. Development wasn't exactly the smoothest, and I suspect the outcome of the Beta and initial sales will determine just how worthwhile it will be to keep it going.
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Kiran
Knights of Azrael The Azrael Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.21 17:42:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business.
The PS3 didn't play PS 2 games, unless you was one of the lucky few who managed to buy the first generation of the PS3.
So no its not a fail thread you clown, its a valid question.
Will Dust 514 play and work on the PS4 ?
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Minsc
Order of the Phoenix Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.02.22 00:15:00 -
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Regat Kozovv wrote:PS3 and PS4 are radically different architectures. Cell vs. x86. They're hardly similar.
However, CCP does have a Dust PC client. (Don't look at me like that, I know you do.) It's not been released as CCP still has an active exclusivity agreement with Sony.
In theory, it should be easy then to port the game to PS4, as CCP already has a x86 codebase. The PS4 is very conservative in its architecture, and shouldn't pose many problems.
The question will be just how much does money CCP will want to sink into this game. Development wasn't exactly the smoothest, and I suspect the outcome of the Beta and initial sales will determine just how worthwhile it will be to keep it going.
The game is build on unreal engine which runs on virtually every platform in existence. CCP can simply compile the client to x86 codebase instead of cell. shouldn't need a whole lot more work to get it running. |
Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
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Posted - 2013.02.22 01:20:00 -
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Cindy Marco wrote:Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business. Most PS3's can't play PS2 games. And it has already been reported that the PS4 can not run PS3 games; you will have to wait for PS4 versions of them to become available for download from Sony.
Yes, but you can download digital games all the way back to PS One Classics to play on PS3. They did have to be updated, (not sure why anyone bothered), but you can play them. I have a few. Serves to remind me how archaic and ultimately boring they truly were. Seems strange that I used to like them, but then, I didn't know any different at the time so I suppose they seemed cool.
I'm sure most of it is just software and code updates like they did with the old stuff. No company with half an idea what they are doing is going to so change their platform every generation that they have to rewrite the entire code base to do it. Mostly, it is the same, with revisions, updates, and allowances for newer technology and hardware.
This is why I don't consider a game moving from one generation to the next a 'Port,' because it really isn't. A port is something they do when they take an existing game and package the code up in a box for deployment, (poorly), on a completely different platform.
Mostly, the game acts and runs the same, but its controls are gimmicky, and it has remnants of the original platform, like menu commands using controller symbols on a PC game, and graphics that don't really suit the new environment. Generally, ports just feel really weird and don't seem right, even if they can still be fun.
Aside from outdated graphics engines and style, older console games played on newer generation consoles of the same variety all act and feel like they belong there.
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.22 01:22:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Fail thread. A PS4 will play PS3 games. Quit acting like you know about business.
This was made before that announcement.
Internet toughguys these days . I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Kiran
Knights of Azrael The Azrael Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.22 17:49:00 -
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To put all the questions to bed I found the answer PS4 WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY PS3 games.
Here is a link.
Oh well Dust 514 was good while it lasted lol not even made it out of beta.
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Big Jim Slade
No Sacrifice No Victory
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Posted - 2013.02.23 10:07:00 -
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Kiran wrote: Oh well Dust 514 was good while it lasted lol not even made it out of beta.
Because the over 70 million units of ps3 currently in existence will vanish overnight and never be played again as everyone will jump onto PS4 immediately JUST like ps3 from ps2 and there will be zero time to ease a port in. |
Zanzbar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 15:09:00 -
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Kiran wrote:To put all the questions to bed I found the answer PS4 WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY PS3 games. Here is a link. Oh well Dust 514 was good while it lasted lol not even made it out of beta.
So what if it won't play the current download of dust, as said before half the reason for going with the unreal engine was how easy it will be to tweak some code and recompile for the new hardware giving us a separate download for ps4 users
I've said it before and ill say it again, I think dust is way overbuilt for the PS3s specs and wouldn't be surprised that the "bad graphics" some complain about is just a result of the game being dumbed down to work on a ps3. Remember that ccp is partnered with sony on this project and sony has quite a bit of money invested in dust as well, so I would imagine that ccp had been given a rough copy of PS4s intended specs already and have been developing the game with those future specs in mind. |
Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:56:00 -
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Well, crap.
So much for my plan to buy a used PS3 to play DUST.
So, essentially, once it launchs there is a distinct possiblilty that there will be a very small window of gameplay until the PS3 support is shut down and it all goes to the PS4 network.
Welp.
Glad I found out now. |
Zanzbar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 02:51:00 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Well, crap.
So much for my plan to buy a used PS3 to play DUST.
So, essentially, once it launchs there is a distinct possiblilty that there will be a very small window of gameplay until the PS3 support is shut down and it all goes to the PS4 network.
Welp.
Glad I found out now.
It will still be playable on the ps3, its just going to really shine on a ps4, its going to take years for ps4 users to outnumber those on ps3 so it would be stupid to drop ps3 support for the much smaller ps4 playerbase. |
Mal Slicer
LightningStrikesTwice Elemental Tide
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Posted - 2013.02.24 19:28:00 -
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The best way to avoid all this shizzle is to make it PC PC is far better platform for games like dust
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