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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2013.02.21 13:01:00 -
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Seems you guys up there are going to experience what we felt down here in Venezuela about a decade ago, and still going ... these days, even taxi drivers are lawyers, engineers, licensed administrators, etc, etc. in my country. A good chunk of them bilingual and sometimes with a second degree or specialization to boot ...
Tough times we live in ... Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.21 13:45:00 -
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american baristas have been degree-holding psychologists, it's been this way for as many years as your situation in Venezuela
and to get into a decent psychology program, you need to have dropped out of a culinary program! http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1080
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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:13:00 -
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There are some things that I do agree with in that article but there are also many statements that I do not agree with.
To start:
Quote:GÇ£College graduates are just more career-oriented,GÇ¥ said Adam Slipakoff, the firmGÇÖs managing partner. GÇ£Going to college means they are making a real commitment to their futures. TheyGÇÖre not just looking for a paycheck.GÇ¥
Having a college degree does not make person career oriented, it makes a person with a college degree. I've met plenty of college people who do anything they can to absolve themselves of any kind of responsibility in the workplace.
On top of that, I would think that career oriented B.A. holders would be looking for a career in their field of study. He's got Megan the file clerk who has a B.A. in fashion. He's got Landon the runner, who's got a B.A. in something that probably doesn't involve running. I doubt either of these 2 had considered a career in law when they got these degrees, and I think that they fall into the latter half of his statement in that they are just looking for a paycheck because right now even a crappy paycheck is still better than no paycheck.
I think the real truth of matter is said later on:
Quote:Plus, itGÇÖs a buyerGÇÖs market for employers.
GÇ£When you get 800 r+¬sum+¬s for every job ad, you need to weed them out somehow,GÇ¥ said Suzanne Manzagol, executive recruiter at Cardinal Recruiting Group
It's a weak economy, more people are looking for work and the employers can be more picky about who they hire and for what rate.
Manzagol even states:
Quote:GÇ£When I started recruiting in GÇÖ06, you didnGÇÖt need a college degree, but there werenGÇÖt that many candidates,GÇ¥ Ms. Manzagol said.
If she is talking about the same job then what has changed other than the companies requirements? Because it sounds to me like they had hired people with no college degree who were able to accomplish the same task that is being accomplished by a B.A. now.
Having said all that, I have an interview today for a position in my field of study that I just graduated from 2 months ago. Pretty stoked about the whole thing. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:22:00 -
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skill is not the same as talent. without an obvious indicator of talent to hire by, the next best option is an indicator for acquired skill... like a degree.
earning a degree should produce an inquisitive mind that asks the right questions, and knows how to compose thoughts into a coherent, flowing, easy-to-follow format.
the hard truth is, what a degree cannot develop is that je ne sais quoi best described as creativity and originality.
I think that is what separates A students from the brilliant ones. I heard an anecdotal statistic a long, long time ago that basically said the ones you "want to keep an eye on" for their likelihood for brilliance... are the C students.
I take school seriously now that I'm more mature after a 12-year hiatus, but I can understand the logic: some students innately recognize that once they've made it into their elite school, a C is most [opportunity] cost-efficient when paired with their creativity and innovation. http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1082
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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:40:00 -
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Well I hope the employer believes that as well because I'm C average. Of course I'm not a kid living with his parents still. I'm mid 30's, have a full time job that often times requires extra attention, along with an often booked life outside of both. Having said that, I still won several of the peer judged contests as well as getting many high marks on final projects for coming up with unique designs. I also became club president for several months and I was captain of the capstone project. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:45:00 -
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yeah but are you captain of the twerk team http://themittani.com/ | http://evenews24.com/ || Vincent Athena-á||-áflycatcher waaaaat |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2013.02.21 15:04:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Having said all that, I have an interview today for a position in my field of study that I just graduated from 2 months ago. Pretty stoked about the whole thing.
Hey Man Good Luck! As a job Interviewer my most heartfelt tip is this, eye contact, hands upfront, neat clothes, bathe and exude confidence Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1082
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Posted - 2013.02.21 15:04:00 -
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What the hell is a twerk. You makin' up words on me again Willis? |
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