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Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
240
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:15:00 -
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@OP: I understand your desire to be a carebear. It's relaxing gameplay. I also undestand you don't want to fight the aggressors on their terms. They most probably will keep the upper hand against people like you.
BUT, not undocking for a week? Leaving the corp because of a war dec? That's not really "using" the game mechanics like you claim. That's just ignoring the mechanics. You're basically playing a single player game in an MMO environment.
You could team up with an alliance that is big and experienced enough to fight back. You could hire mercenaries to give the war deccers a hard time. You could do something with your carebear money to play the game. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5386
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:19:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Demolishar wrote: For every one of your accounts that you subscribe by PLEX, that's a PLEX that didn't go to someone else. And frankly, anyone else is better than a non-content creating, pvp-abstaining, highsec carebear.
lol, You sound like You'd be happier with a purely NPC seeded market. :) No just with the bears gone. The market will be just fine. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
62
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Demolishar wrote: For every one of your accounts that you subscribe by PLEX, that's a PLEX that didn't go to someone else. And frankly, anyone else is better than a non-content creating, pvp-abstaining, highsec carebear.
lol, You sound like You'd be happier with a purely NPC seeded market. :) No just with the bears gone. The market will be just fine.
Haha, in Your version maybe, I like all the supplies and new shineys I can buy on the market without having to scour the universe first. :) There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Danbar Roth
The Last Templar
34
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:34:00 -
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Quote: If a war dec extends to a second week, drop to NPC corp, or switch to a temp player corp until the war ends.
I'm sure that's against the rules?!?! |
Kate stark
251
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Posted - 2013.02.22 11:37:00 -
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Danbar Roth wrote:Quote: If a war dec extends to a second week, drop to NPC corp, or switch to a temp player corp until the war ends. I'm sure that's against the rules?!?!
leaving your corp is against the rules? Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
62
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:00:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Danbar Roth wrote:Quote: If a war dec extends to a second week, drop to NPC corp, or switch to a temp player corp until the war ends. I'm sure that's against the rules?!?! leaving your corp is against the rules?
Yes, You'e in for Life.
You'll only leave with Your feet first.
And for every failure You'll hae to make amends by cutting off a little piece of Your right pinky finger. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Kate stark
251
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Posted - 2013.02.22 12:02:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Kate stark wrote:Danbar Roth wrote:Quote: If a war dec extends to a second week, drop to NPC corp, or switch to a temp player corp until the war ends. I'm sure that's against the rules?!?! leaving your corp is against the rules? Yes, You'e in for Life. You'll only leave with Your feet first. And for every failure You'll hae to make amends by cutting off a little piece of Your right pinky finger.
hmm, npccorp4lyfe.
nobody offers me as much as the npcs do. Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1010
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:08:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Debora Tsung wrote:Demolishar wrote: For every one of your accounts that you subscribe by PLEX, that's a PLEX that didn't go to someone else. And frankly, anyone else is better than a non-content creating, pvp-abstaining, highsec carebear.
lol, You sound like You'd be happier with a purely NPC seeded market. :) No just with the bears gone. The market will be just fine.
I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you. Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?
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baltec1
Bat Country
5386
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:34:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you. Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?
Our goal is balance. If that means a few spineless wretches quit in a fit of rage because they no longer have it all their way then so be it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12978
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you. Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?
Our goal is balance. If that means a few spineless wretches quit in a fit of rage because they no longer have it all their way then so be it. GǪand the fact remains that they wouldn't be gone anyway GÇö they'd just imagine a new bubble that they believe they live in and make up some new arbitrary rules that they think applies to that bubble. Bears (by extension of beliefs in general) are quite malleable that way. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1010
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:52:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you. Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?
Our goal is balance. If that means a few spineless wretches quit in a fit of rage because they no longer have it all their way then so be it.
Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".
Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.
If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance". |
Kate stark
252
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Posted - 2013.02.22 13:54:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you. Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?
Our goal is balance. If that means a few spineless wretches quit in a fit of rage because they no longer have it all their way then so be it. Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.". Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand. If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".
do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button? Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1432
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:04:00 -
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Kate stark wrote: do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?
Yea, he does. I remember reading his posts prior to the NPC AI change 9something both he and I were against) and I kept thinking "God, why can't this guy be on THEIR side instead of mine". Seems like sometimes medication is called for.....
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Kate stark
252
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:08:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Kate stark wrote: do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?
Yea, he does. I remember reading his posts prior to the NPC AI change 9something both he and I were against) and I kept thinking "God, why can't this guy be on THEIR side instead of mine". Seems like sometimes medication is called for.....
well, damn, i mean... i have no words for that. Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
March rabbit
player corp n1
559
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:10:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:I was the OP of the locked thread this guy is talking about.
It's true that I would prefer that carebears be less afraid. What I was ranting about originally was that they were forming corportions and weighing down bright-eyed and enthusiastic newbies with their fear and ignorance when they should be emboldening and emporwering them.
Anyone who joins OPs corp will quickly find himself locked into a version of the game with all fun drained out of it. They will become like golems: unreal facsimilies of humans built only for drudgery and toil. They will quit and the entire game will be worse of for the fear and ignorance of people like the OP here.
That's what I object most to. to be honest OP and people like he just informs newbees about dangers of PvP. They (OP and such) don't create these dangers.
These dangers are created by people like you. People who love to kill at all cost. Preferably - poorly prepared victim in pimped carebearmobile. YOU create these dangers and YOU whine about people who warns others.
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baltec1
Bat Country
5387
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:17:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:[q Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".
Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.
If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance". What exactly makes ganking easy do you think? |
Kate stark
252
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:[q Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".
Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.
If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance". What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?
warp to ship. target ship. fire guns. i can do it with one hand! Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
334
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:24:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?
:D He's one of the top five, maybe even top three terrible posters at the moment, that's for sure.
@OP: I am a highsec industrialist, too. But your kind of thinking goes completely against everything that i want to see in this game. Please don't talk as if your shortsighted riskaverse thinking is representative for anyone else than your own. You don't speak for anyone else than yourself. So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1432
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:32:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:[q Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".
Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.
If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance". What exactly makes ganking easy do you think? warp to ship. target ship. fire guns. i can do it with one hand!
Looking at your Girl avatar I was wondering what else you could do with one hand, then I saw your sig said "His".
But then again, it's not wrong if we both have Girl Avatars....... right?
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Kate stark
252
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:37:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Kate stark wrote:baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:[q Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".
Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.
If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance". What exactly makes ganking easy do you think? warp to ship. target ship. fire guns. i can do it with one hand! Looking at your Girl avatar I was wondering what else you could do with one hand, then I saw your sig said "His". But then again, it's not wrong if we both have Girl Avatars....... right?
that depends, is this your main character? Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
851
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:07:00 -
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Though the OP differs on a lot of stuf from how I enjoy the game gotta give him a like there.Well stated OP , well stated.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
851
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:10:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:[q Use any words you like. The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game. As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".
Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.
If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance". What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?
What exactly makes it so hard ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Davith en Divalone
Plate of Beans Incorporated
82
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:13:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Well, this thread has proven only one thing to me - no matter what MMO you play, the PvE vs PvP threads all boil down to the same thing:
Carebears: I like to build things PeeVeePee'ers: I like to break things Carebears: You're bad PeeVeePee'ers: Nuh uh, You're bad. Carebears: No, you're wrong. PeeVeePee'ers: No, You are the ones that are wrong.
And around and around in circles we go, cue the Benny Hill Music.
Everything's better with Yackety Sax. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2871
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:16:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:These dangers are created by people like you. People who love to kill at all cost. Preferably - poorly prepared victim in pimped carebearmobile. YOU create these dangers and YOU whine about people who warns others. Question: why are there poorly-prepared victims in space in expensive ships 24 hours after receiving a war notification?
Because the people they look to for counsel in their own corp don't give it to them. They've had ample warning that we're coming. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Abrazzar
891
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:25:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:March rabbit wrote:These dangers are created by people like you. People who love to kill at all cost. Preferably - poorly prepared victim in pimped carebearmobile. YOU create these dangers and YOU whine about people who warns others. Question: why are there poorly-prepared victims in space in expensive ships 24 hours after receiving a war notification? Because the people they look to for counsel in their own corp don't give it to them. They've had ample warning that we're coming. Yep, I'd tell them to spread over the region, all fit with a cloak and sit there afk all day in a safespot.
Then I'll go on voice after a day and read out all the hate mail I'd get from the gankbears. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5387
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:32:00 -
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Quote:
What exactly makes it so hard ?
Not the victims thats for sure. |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:34:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote: You say that EVE is about ship-to-ship PVP. Maybe that is what it is about to you, but that is NOT what it is about to me. To me, EVE is about harvesting resources, producing goods, driving the market.. Where do you think the demand for your ships comes from? Oh right, PvP. |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance The Marmite Collective
43
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Posted - 2013.02.22 16:00:00 -
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LHA Tarawa wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:So, basically, you're reopening a LOCKED THREAD because, why? you're bored? Trolling for more fighting? The thread was locked, not because of the sub-conversation it spawned, but because the OP was a rant. This thread is not a rant, but rather an attempt to explain to others why I play the way I do. Perhaps it should have started with a: TLDR: I don't ship-to-ship PVP, and you can't make me.
My fleet of alpha nados begs to differ.
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
566
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Posted - 2013.02.22 16:04:00 -
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Joran Dravius wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote: You say that EVE is about ship-to-ship PVP. Maybe that is what it is about to you, but that is NOT what it is about to me. To me, EVE is about harvesting resources, producing goods, driving the market.. Where do you think the demand for your ships comes from? Oh right, PvP. Even industry is about facilitating PvP.
Your point being? What generates the demand does not necessarily matter to the industrialist, so long as that demand is present. The maker of a tank in the us probably does not wish to engage in a tank battle themselves, but they are happy the demand is present.
Why is it so hard to understand that people wish to play a game in the manner they enjoy so long as they operate within the,bounds of the sandbox? I have no desire to go anchor t2 large warp bubbles. I do, however, enjoy manufacturing and selling them. They are a nice niche product with decent profit. Granted, I want war in nul and wormholes because that helps the demand for such a product, buy I have no desire to participate in such combat at this time.
Really, why is it so hard to grasp that someone would enjoy making and profiting from the sale of an item, but not partaking of that item? Just because a factory worker assembles paintball guns for a living doesn't mean they wish to play the game all the time.
There are ample examples of industrialists who wish to make items in eve, mine, etc, but not partake in the combat that fuels the market. Isn't chribba the same, yet people leave him to do as he wishes. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
566
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Posted - 2013.02.22 16:10:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:So, basically, you're reopening a LOCKED THREAD because, why? you're bored? Trolling for more fighting? The thread was locked, not because of the sub-conversation it spawned, but because the OP was a rant. This thread is not a rant, but rather an attempt to explain to others why I play the way I do. Perhaps it should have started with a: TLDR: I don't ship-to-ship PVP, and you can't make me. My fleet of alpha nados begs to differ.
Can your fleet of alpha nados pop jita 4-4? There are ample traders there who never leave station and make isk off of trading alone. Heck, one cold use alts at certain stations, courier services like red frog, and you will never be able to engage such people in ship to ship combat. You may gank their courier, but they will never be in a ship for you to pop. It's part of the wide tapestry we call the eve sandbox. How hard is that to grasp? |
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