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WheatGrass
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:17:00 -
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If you are as insulted as I am by flying around space, as a high security status player, with a Concord sanctioned "WANTED" notice on your profile, then feel free to join me in deleting characters and accounts during the FanFest 2013 Party at the Top of the World event.
While some players are busy shaking there asses off during the party, It's my intention to be making use of the "Trash It" feature and to delete characters of this account and others -perhaps entire accounts as well.
Such an investment... such a waste All of those 'man hours', all of the purchased computer hardware, software, and internet access All of those tens of millions of skill points All of those missions run... All of the ships, modules, planetary installations, implants, offices, skill books... All of those forum posts... All for a game who's developers treat us like sheet
Now you know my time-line CCP and CSM. CCP, you've got until then to provide assurances that you can be respectful and grateful towards those whose money you depend upon.
For those of you with similar sentiments and who are attending FanFest 2013, perhaps you could protest at the event by wearing a sandwich board with the word "WANTED" displayed prominently on it. If I were there, it's what I'd do.
Fly safe.
R.I.P. WheatGrass 2008.05.24 - 2013.04.?? Epitaph: "No. You can't have my stuff."
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WheatGrass
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:17:00 -
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Reserved |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
540
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:44:00 -
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So what are you mad about? Are you mad that CCP finally delivered on something that they promised? And that it works?
Edit: Quit getting mad at free market capitalism. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1725
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Posted - 2013.02.22 05:51:00 -
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WheatGrass wrote:Reserved You might actually have more to say?
Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
215
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Posted - 2013.02.22 09:48:00 -
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You know what is coming right?
Everyone is about to descend on this thread and troll you to dead.
dude, its a game and its Eve, interacting with other players and finding out that most of them just want to kill you comes with the package The Lazy Pilot - http://thelazypilot.wordpress.com/ |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
1487
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:11:00 -
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Bounties for everyone! |
Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
278
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:14:00 -
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WheatGrass wrote:Epitaph: "No. You can't have my stuff." Meh, worth a try anyway. Can I have your stuff? "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
462
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Posted - 2013.02.22 14:41:00 -
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You seem upset because you've only got a 100k bounty, yet get a wanted sign for such a small number.
I have, courtesy of my alt Corestwo, remedied that. Your WANTED tag is now worthy of the bounty on your head. You're welcome. If you intend to quit anyway, that's fine - I'll get my money back. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
3329
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:02:00 -
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You know what I want? Your stuff. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
504
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:31:00 -
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Excellent bounty bait troll.
I wish I had thought of this. |
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
715
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:33:00 -
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In-game bounties, producing out-of-game tears.
System working as expected. Nathan Jameson for CSM 8! My CSM 8 Blog My Twitter |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
3976
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:34:00 -
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WheatGrass wrote:For those of you with similar sentiments and who are attending FanFest 2013, perhaps you could protest at the event by wearing a sandwich board with the word "WANTED" displayed prominently on it. If I were there, it's what I'd do.
I sincerely hope others take you up on this. I'll have my camera with me along with my giggle-juice. Fun times!
BTW: CCP's already spoken about this issue, go read the winter summit minutes.
"Soundwave clarified that he doesnGÇÖt mind people being bothered by it, because no EVE player has the right to be shut off from the rest of the world. He sees bounty hunting as something thatGÇÖs impacting players playing EVE as a single player game in a way nothing they tried before, and was glad they were interacting with the community whether negatively or positively. He suspected most people complaining were annoyed because they were not used to being able to be GÇ£pokedGÇ¥ by other players. "
.... don't expect the sandwich boards to do anything but entertain the rest of us. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
715
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Posted - 2013.02.22 15:41:00 -
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In my alliance, we started handing out bounties as door prizes. Nathan Jameson for CSM 8! My CSM 8 Blog My Twitter |
Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2013.02.22 19:59:00 -
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This post brings up a serious concern that needs to be addressed ASAP. This is more important then anything else that the CSM can possibly be doing, and thus all attention should be diverted to this matter in light of its time sensitive nature:
Once he biomasses his toon, can he still edit the reserved post? CAN HE POST FROM THE GRAVE?!?
If so this is a serious break in immersion and I will unsub all 24 of my accounts unless this is rectified. Aideron Robotics is hiring for the Gallente Federation war effort! https://www.aideronrobotics.com/wiki/Applying |
Ashterothi
Aideron Robotics
160
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Posted - 2013.02.22 19:59:00 -
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Reserved in case of my unsub Aideron Robotics is hiring for the Gallente Federation war effort! https://www.aideronrobotics.com/wiki/Applying |
Jonah Gravenstein
Universal Corporate Repossession Inc.
5943
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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:26:00 -
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WheatGrass wrote: Epitaph: "No. You can't have my stuff."
Can I steal it instead?
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |
WheatGrass
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Posted - 2013.02.23 07:03:00 -
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mynnna wrote:You seem upset because you've only got a 100k bounty, yet get a wanted sign for such a small number.
I have, courtesy of my alt Corestwo, remedied that. Your WANTED tag is now worthy of the bounty on your head. You're welcome. If you intend to quit anyway, that's fine - I'll get my money back. You are kind, myanna.
FWIW, I'm convinced that the original bounty was a result of a question asked in the Help Channel after the deployment of Retribution. I suppose I could ask the player for a reason but I don't need one. I'm not angry about bounties -just angry about flying around space with a Concord sanctioned "WANTED" label.
Varius Xeral (post #10), I'm no troll. For confirmation, you may look up this tune in-game after the "party at the top of the world" to see if I've been added to the bio-mass or not. I'd rather not do any bio-massing but have committed in a petition to do so and am comfortable following through with that commitment. Not delivering on the plan to bio-mass tunes would leave me with some serious splaining to do and would be detrimental to my credibility. Being in a position to provide explanations might be less than optimal.
If C.C.P. appropriately addresses concerns then bio-massing can be avoided which is something also stated in the petition. Avoidance seems unlikely since CCP needs to see people leaving the game (per the CSM Dec 2012 minutes) before taking action. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7804
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Posted - 2013.02.23 11:15:00 -
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There is only one thing worse than being WANTED
And that's not being wanted.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7804
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Posted - 2013.02.23 11:16:00 -
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WheatGrass wrote: Not delivering on the plan to bio-mass tunes would leave me with some serious splaining to do and would be detrimental to my credibility...
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about this if I were you.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Zimmy Zeta
RvB - RED Federation
8662
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:06:00 -
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OK, I'll bite.
Some clarification for you, OP: The "wanted" tag does not make you an outlaw and does not make you attackable in high sec, it only means that if anyone kills you under which conditions whatsoever, he will get a small share of your ship's worth. So your bounty does not interfere with your high sec business at all.
If you already knew this, the only reason for you to be mad about it would be some RP-reasons- you want your toon to be a good guy and find the wanted-tag immersion breaking. I guess that you are mainly into industrial stuff and pve- if you did a lot of pvp, you wouldn't be worried about the bounty, since it would vanish within a few weeks anyway. If you are good at industry, you probably have a lot of isks. Have you already tried to contact the fine young gentleman who put the bounty on your head and offered him money to get it removed? I know, I know..that would result in player interaction and that is not acceptable. Please don't feed me. |
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1740
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Posted - 2013.02.25 19:46:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:There is only one thing worse than being WANTED
And that's not being wanted. You're on to something here, man.
What if they changed the word WANTED to LOVED. People would embrace the bounty system then.
Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7847
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Posted - 2013.02.25 20:42:00 -
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I think DESIRED would be even better!
*puts on Barry White album Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Bantara
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
22
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Posted - 2013.02.25 20:54:00 -
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What a very useful thread....
*Adds a bunch of names to the no-vote list for making fun of how someone wants to play Eve their way. |
IbanezLaney
the church of awesome Caldari State Capturing
225
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Posted - 2013.02.25 21:43:00 -
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Why wouldn't you want a bounty?
Free cool 'Wanted' sign over your toons pic + the knowledge someone has given their isk away for no benefit. It does nothing except give a random some iskies when you get popped one day (Which is kinda the whole point of the game)
Serious question cause I get shot at everywhere, with or without bounty so I don't really have the same perspective: What is the downside of the system that makes you want to quit playing?
Or is it just a mental barrier of 'I have a bounty on me that does/means absolutely nothing. I'm gonna get mad, biomass and give Laney my all stuff'
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1742
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Posted - 2013.02.26 03:22:00 -
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Bantara wrote:What a very useful thread....
*Adds a bunch of names to the no-vote list for making fun of how someone wants to play Eve their way. How does having a bounty stop this person from playing the game their way? Or you dumb or just trolling? Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
479
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Posted - 2013.02.26 05:04:00 -
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Bantara wrote:What a very useful thread....
*Adds a bunch of names to the no-vote list for making fun of how someone wants to play Eve their way.
"Playing eve their way" does not mean that they are immune to others playing eve their way. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Black Legion.
1047
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Posted - 2013.02.26 12:30:00 -
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WheatGrass wrote:Reserved
Update 2013.02.23 Per the CSM Minutes from December 2012, the only way that CCP will change bounty hunting is by players leaving the game. So, off I go with my alts and second account with me. May I have an "AMEN" to that Alekseyev Karrde?
AMEN
I dont even want your stuff "Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart."-á -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
Hero of the CSM Noir./Noir. Academy Recruiting: www.noirmercs.com |
Bantara
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
22
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Posted - 2013.02.26 17:57:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Bantara wrote:What a very useful thread....
*Adds a bunch of names to the no-vote list for making fun of how someone wants to play Eve their way. How does having a bounty stop this person from playing the game their way? Or you dumb or just trolling?
mynnna wrote:"Playing eve their way" does not mean that they are immune to others playing eve their way.
I'm going to try to stay less personal than you, Poetic, and just point this stuff out to you and mynnna.
WheatGrass wrote:...as a high security status player, with a Concord sanctioned "WANTED" notice on your profile...
WheatGrass wrote:I'm not angry about bounties -just angry about flying around space with a Concord sanctioned "WANTED" label.
It is quite clear from the content of WheatGrass's posts that he is concerned with the immersion or rp-value of having a "high security status" pilot--thus a 'good guy'--with a "WANTED" status placed on him by a law enforcement agency. It has nothing to do with being shot at (that he has said.) It has nothing to do with being insulated from other players(that he has said.) It has everything to do with how he likes to play Eve(and likely any other MMO)--with a focus on setting, lore, and/or roleplaying. And instead of calmly stating that CCP has already said they aren't going to worry about making some kind of distinction between a criminal bounty and what one might interpret as a "hit" placed on a 'good guy's' head, several people disrespected the player for his preference. Not even an acknowledgement that his style is in the minority and that he's going to have to adjust, and not to throw such a tizzy about it.
If one cannot deal with a player and his preferences in the game professionally and with respect--as minority or different from one's own as they may be--then that CSM candidate doesn't make my list of STVs.
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Zimmy Zeta
RvB - RED Federation
8934
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Posted - 2013.02.26 18:13:00 -
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Bantara wrote:
It is quite clear from the content of WheatGrass's posts that he is concerned with the immersion or rp-value of having a "high security status" pilot--thus a 'good guy'--with a "WANTED" status placed on him by a law enforcement agency. It has nothing to do with being shot at (that he has said.) It has nothing to do with being insulated from other players(that he has said.) It has everything to do with how he likes to play Eve(and likely any other MMO)--with a focus on setting, lore, and/or roleplaying. And instead of calmly stating that CCP has already said they aren't going to worry about making some kind of distinction between a criminal bounty and what one might interpret as a "hit" placed on a 'good guy's' head, several people disrespected the player for his preference. Not even an acknowledgement that his style is in the minority and that he's going to have to adjust, and not to throw such a tizzy about it.
If one cannot deal with a player and his preferences in the game professionally and with respect--as minority or different from one's own as they may be--then that CSM candidate doesn't make my list of STVs.
We did not disrespect the OP for his preferences or his play style. We disrespected him for his conclusion that his only viable reaction to any form of opposition would be to quit the game- and that he was trying to encourage others to do the same.
So some unknown dude put a bounty on your head and you have no idea why? Well, great for roleplayers, then do something about it, search this guy out, try to contact him, hire other guys to blow him up. There is so much that you could do in game about the situation, ragequitting is just ridiculous, and trying to drive other players out of the game as well is a violation of the EULA as far as I know.
Please don't feed me. |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.02.26 18:31:00 -
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TBH, I'd have more respect for him if he panhandled in GD for a shiney ship and asked/arranged someone to gank him for more than the Bounty pay-out would be.
You kill a couple of birds with that stone.
1. You panhandled an expensive (cough) ship for free. 2. You remove the bounty at no expense to your security status. 3. You move along bounty free with killrights that you can sell. 4. ??? 5. Profit
Where is the downside to this? C'mon OP, lets get with the program.
No, dont give me your stuff. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ |
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