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Norrec Kahazzarran
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2013.02.25 00:19:00 -
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I've recently joined a null sec alliance, and moved far, far away from my previous source of income. I have however started training a dedicated station trader (same account). My question is this, should I continue to sink time into training a ALT character, and attempt to make ISK with my limited capital? Or should I instead train said ALT in a more reliable source of income like mining?
Additionally some tips on setting up(minimal skills/investment), and maintaining PI in null sec would be appreciated. Also I've got around 80mil to invest in one of these fields. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:19:00 -
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Norrec Kahazzarran wrote:I've recently joined a null sec alliance, and moved far, far away from my previous source of income. I have however started training a dedicated station trader (same account). My question is this, should I continue to sink time into training a ALT character, and attempt to make ISK with my limited capital? Or should I instead train said ALT in a more reliable source of income like mining?
Additionally some tips on setting up(minimal skills/investment), and maintaining PI in null sec would be appreciated. Also I've got around 80mil to invest in one of these fields.
I would first gather 400M isk before making any endeavors with aims for serious income, you should aim for 3B isk liquid at all times, especially those times when you just cant say no to a solid and lucrative endeavor.
Mining sucks man, mining on a main character is like shooting oneself in the foot with the wrong end of the RPG, I thinks mining is meant for alternate accounts, the good stuff (what really brings you to eve) is what you should constantly work on for the main account.
My honest advice is to just catch a good sale from CCP and move forward from that point. |
Meruhaus Shar
New Eden Guard
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:30:00 -
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Ha ha thanks. I know more capital is best but I wanted to work with what I got. I suppose it'll be more cost effective to just buy a plex and use the money from that, is 400mil also the minimum for PI, or just trading? |
Dex Thunakar
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:46:00 -
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Meruhaus Shar wrote:Ha ha thanks. I know more capital is best but I wanted to work with what I got. I suppose it'll be more cost effective to just buy a plex and use the money from that, is 400mil also the minimum for PI, or just trading? ?Setting up a PI colony costs almost nothing? What am I missing here? |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:26:00 -
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Norrec Kahazzarran wrote:I've recently joined a null sec alliance, and moved far, far away from my previous source of income. I have however started training a dedicated station trader (same account). My question is this, should I continue to sink time into training a ALT character, and attempt to make ISK with my limited capital? Or should I instead train said ALT in a more reliable source of income like mining?
Additionally some tips on setting up(minimal skills/investment), and maintaining PI in null sec would be appreciated. Also I've got around 80mil to invest in one of these fields. A market alt is a good way to make isk.
Not only that but it allows you to buy stuff from a trade hub, and set up delivery through you corp/alliance logistics network to have it delivered to your main.
Station trading takes time to learn, not just the in game skills, but practice as well. But once you get the hang of it you will make far more in a couple hours trading than in a couple hours mining. The skills you need to train are not extensive, it all depends on how many orders you can juggle at once. You can always come back and train more later if needed. But no point in training for 500 orders, if you only use 100.
Get broker fees down, run missions if needed to get corp standings up to reduce tax. In places like jita, margins can be so tight on some high volume items that broker fees and station tax can make the difference between making or losing isk. running PI in null can pull in decent isk, but only if you can either get it to market to sell, or sell it locally. In general ratting is great isk in NULL. When you get individual battleship rats with over 2 mil bounties, it is easy to make 60M/hr belt rating, even without running plexs. You do not need great combat skills to successfully belt rat. |
Conar
Mafia Italiana
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:47:00 -
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Check with your alliance/corp as to selling stuff on the market. Some like to keep prices low enough to make things fair for everyone. I was in an alliance once where we could not sell anything in our stations. People find out real quick who is selling and if they are trying to take advantage of other members.
PI is the way to go. Very cheap to start up and not too much training time to get maxed skills. Train an alt to do PI also and work some P4 lines.
Ratting and or running anoms is another way to make good isk in 0.0. Unless you get lucky, you won't find any profitable moons to mine. You also might try buying mins off the market and making items to sell.
Conar 07
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.25 22:06:00 -
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Jump clone stationed at your "source of income". If your nullies don't like you being gone for 24 hours, screw 'em. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.25 23:55:00 -
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when you have an ALT you do not need to capitalize it like THIS |
Miiikka
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.26 13:27:00 -
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I run PI in null on my mains & alts, over 28 planets.
Mains are PVP characters but I also use them for extraction, it just takes 10 mins a day to maintain those, and about half hour a day for the rest. 1 additional hour a week hauling stuff. Best part is, that you can do all this while sitting on a Titan or while setting up a fleet or something with your main.
Out of these, 3 are dedicated factory planets, producing P3 output. The others extract enough to provide a constant input supply.
Factory planets are definately the way to go. If you are using a number of dfifferent systems, try to set up your planets to minimise the amount of hauling. Startup costs are minimal, especially if you plan your setup so that you do not have to move command centres between planets.
Chances are that if your Alliance has SOV, then the taxes will be set to zero, making running costs nil. |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.26 13:52:00 -
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if you are mining in nullsec then you're doing something really wrong. it's the worst possible income source unless you just don't really play eve and watch your account every few mins to unload cargo and die once every two weeks or so. just start ratting or better do plexes. |
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