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Silence iKillYouu
KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.04 01:34:00 -
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Almity wrote:RTSAvalance- uses ogb but uses them to fight very outnumbered or out shipped
TeaEarl- that dram!
Zarnak- Solos like a boss
Dagren - No longer FW but is one of the best solo pilots in eve Agreed. It's funny that I'm Minnie and I agree within amarrs post
Edit. Forgot to mention galdorne hes a pvp engineer and our fittings police EVE Mail me i dont check forums often. |
IbanezLaney
the church of awesome Caldari State Capturing
235
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Posted - 2013.03.04 02:41:00 -
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Iggys wrote:The entire brosefs corporation.
And Superchair(even though I rarely see him anymore)
Most of you have probably noticed your ships are staying intact more regularly while flying in Black RIse -
The reason you still have intact ships is because Super Chair is having a break from eve.
Will the Chair return?? Is he the spy in your corp that you just gave roles to? Why does pepper taste so good on corn? No one knows.
Caldari State Capturing's very, very, very sexy new alliance boss is a complete tool who spends way too much time playing Dust.
Shameless off topic recruitment plug goes next:
To all CURRENT Caldari FW corp CEO's - Caldari State Capturing [PLEX] is ready to rebuild. *Help us create a blob so we can know what it's like to be a Gallente while still being in Caldari.
What we can offer: We have the best alliance ticker in FW. (Undeniable fact) Sean Parisi will provide his special 'naked services' to all male pilots. No cta's - No fees - No Llamas. Just more people to fly with when you want to shoot dirty, filthy, smelly, ugly dreadlocked lice breeding Gallente scum. Not a traditional alliance - more about consolidating forces and having people around to form up with. Ship replacement program - lolol yeah right fuk off and stop losing ****.
*Disclaimer - any blob we create will be after an hour of stuffing around after already sighting the enemy fleet to ensure we have 3x the numbers of at least one ship size above the enemy fleet. You must then accuse the smaller and outnumbered force of blobbing. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
45
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Posted - 2013.03.04 04:48:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Iggys wrote:The entire brosefs corporation.
And Superchair(even though I rarely see him anymore) Most of you have probably noticed your ships are staying intact more regularly while flying in Black RIse - The reason you still have intact ships is because Super Chair is having a break from eve. Will the Chair return?? Is he the spy in your corp that you just gave roles to? Why does pepper taste so good on corn? No one knows. Caldari State Capturing's very, very, very sexy new alliance boss is a complete tool who spends way too much time playing Dust. Shameless off topic recruitment plug goes next: To all CURRENT Caldari FW corp CEO's - Caldari State Capturing [PLEX] is ready to rebuild. *Help us create a blob so we can know what it's like to be a Gallente while still being in Caldari. What we can offer: We have the best alliance ticker in FW. (Undeniable fact) Sean Parisi will provide his special 'naked services' to all male pilots. No cta's - No fees - No Llamas. Just more people to fly with when you want to shoot dirty, filthy, smelly, ugly dreadlocked lice breeding Gallente scum. Not a traditional alliance - more about consolidating forces and having people around to form up with. Ship replacement program - lolol yeah right fuk off and stop losing ****. *Disclaimer - any blob we create will be after an hour of stuffing around after already sighting the enemy fleet to ensure we have 3x the numbers of at least one ship size above the enemy fleet. You must then accuse the smaller and outnumbered force of blobbing. I have 7 pilots that I can add to your alliance by way of AR16. Sometimes 8, but sometimes AR16 is empty as I am out in one of the other militias causing trouble for them from within their own ranks. Contact me about alliance invite.
Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Captain Sparro
The Leauge Of Surprisingly Well Dressed Men HYDRA REVOLUTIONS
9
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Posted - 2013.03.04 05:11:00 -
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Quake590 wrote:Ohishi wrote:Araikas Rhal wrote:
Best solo players. Quake590, for sure, never seen anyone else kill so many rediculous ships in things that should not work =P DDs in a Heron, Vagabonds in thrashers.
All that is, is proof of how broken OGB really is. For the record, I do have a link alt, but I make a point of only using him when seriously outnumbered. For example, those heron kills were all unlinked, but forgive me if I felt the need to use tOGB against 6x cormorants :P There are a lot of huge names in FW and I couldn't begin to name them all. Chatgris and Nexxala would be pretty big ones on the list, AshenShugar and Loren are plain legends. There are also hundeds of pilots around lowsec to accomplish some amazing feats that are never heard about. Jack Fraust for example constantly comes up with AF or dessie kills, all in his merlin without any form of links and I'm still shocked every time he gets one. Oh and last but not least, pa3ot and J1m Raynor, for taking my terrible 10mn AFs and creating the goddly 10mn destroyers you see today.
i have been doing a lot of fighting in lowsec, came back in the past month or so, and been doing some flying with quake from time to time. i can safely say that the links almost exclusivly gets used in either fights where he/we are heavily outnumberd, OR when fighting severely outgunned :)
also i nominate quake590 as one of the most dangerous pilots arround, and as stated befor there is loads and loads of good pilots outthere, keep it up, you guys rock!<3 |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
45
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Posted - 2013.03.04 05:22:00 -
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Captain Sparro wrote:Quake590 wrote:Ohishi wrote:Araikas Rhal wrote:
Best solo players. Quake590, for sure, never seen anyone else kill so many rediculous ships in things that should not work =P DDs in a Heron, Vagabonds in thrashers.
All that is, is proof of how broken OGB really is. For the record, I do have a link alt, but I make a point of only using him when seriously outnumbered. For example, those heron kills were all unlinked, but forgive me if I felt the need to use tOGB against 6x cormorants :P There are a lot of huge names in FW and I couldn't begin to name them all. Chatgris and Nexxala would be pretty big ones on the list, AshenShugar and Loren are plain legends. There are also hundeds of pilots around lowsec to accomplish some amazing feats that are never heard about. Jack Fraust for example constantly comes up with AF or dessie kills, all in his merlin without any form of links and I'm still shocked every time he gets one. Oh and last but not least, pa3ot and J1m Raynor, for taking my terrible 10mn AFs and creating the goddly 10mn destroyers you see today. i have been doing a lot of fighting in lowsec, came back in the past month or so, and been doing some flying with quake from time to time. i can safely say that the links almost exclusivly gets used in either fights where he/we are heavily outnumberd, OR when fighting severely outgunned :) also i nominate quake590 as one of the most dangerous pilots arround, and as stated befor there is loads and loads of good pilots outthere, keep it up, you guys rock!<3 I can also say that Captain Sparro gets extremely angry when Quake takes him into outnumbered fights that he has no idea fly in. And it is funny to read his rants about it in local. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Colt Blackhawk
Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction
73
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Posted - 2013.03.04 07:19:00 -
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Can anyone of the top pilots maybe tell me how you do that with brawling fits? Since I try short range pvp this month I suck like hell. How to avoid getting always damn blobbed within the next 10seconds??? Example: soloing a vexor in hook->sfi and rifter blob me. soloing a wolf in a hook---> slasher comes and they blob me....
SO HOW THE HELL YOU MANAGE THAT?
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Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
119
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Posted - 2013.03.04 07:54:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:Can anyone of the top pilots maybe tell me how you do that with brawling fits?
Most fights are won before the first shot ever gets fired when you calculate the enemies approximate abilities in your mind. Aside from OGB, it's mainly just managing spreadsheets in your mind like this (one incursus fled btw).
If math does not match, then "top pilots" simply dont take the fight. Some uncertainties do enter the calculations based on whether or not pilot is as skilled or risk averse as you expect but those are generally factored in as probabilities too.
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force Caldari State Capturing
187
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Posted - 2013.03.04 08:55:00 -
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Yuri Intaki wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote:Can anyone of the top pilots maybe tell me how you do that with brawling fits? Most fights are won before the first shot ever gets fired when you calculate the enemies approximate abilities in your mind. Aside from OGB, it's mainly just managing spreadsheets in your mind like this (one incursus fled btw). If math does not match, then "top pilots" simply dont take the fight. Some uncertainties do enter the calculations based on whether or not pilot is as skilled or risk averse as you expect but those are generally factored in as probabilities too.
This.
Generally I think a thorough understanding of standard fits and the strength / weaknesses of different hulls is needed to succeed in PvP. For example majority of Incursus will be blaster fit, as long as you can dictate range outside of his optimal and have enough DPS to deal with a possible dual rep - then you choose to engage.
Or you can do what I do and leeroy into everything you see. (Sometimes this actually works more then you'd think. It is that moment where you know your going to lose, but actually end up wiping out 3x as many guys) |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
244
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Posted - 2013.03.04 09:12:00 -
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I agree with the above.
I lose fights because I just wade in and don't weigh the odds. Usually because I have the red mist of 'MUST FIGHT'. I rarely lose my ship if I'm on the ball and actually have thought about what's ahead.
In EVE the set up is the win, even the most terrible of us (like me :D) can tell if there is going to be a win or loss before you engage. My last Hawk loss for example was one where I knew that if the 2 harpy's that killed me were on warp in I'd just DIAF. I was hoping that one would be a rail harpy.
I was wrong, and I lost my ship. I knew that would happen but was playing the odds and lost. |
Colt Blackhawk
Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction
73
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Posted - 2013.03.04 09:31:00 -
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Solution is probably again: Back to kiting :D So I can get out when blobbed :P |
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Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
119
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Posted - 2013.03.04 10:50:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:Solution is probably again: Back to kiting :D So I can get out when blobbed :P
Not necessarily but with brawling frigates tyou either need to be a "boxer" or "ju-jujutsu". What this essentially means that boxer (like Incursus) simply absords punishment while taking the enemy down in do-or-die fight. Ju-jutsu is something like ewar hookbill who can use it to negate incoming damage while taking down opponents one at the time.
And as for kiting frigates, most people who say kiting requires massive skills are the ones who use OGB to kite some poor bastard in their sml condors in 100% safety.
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Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
45
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Posted - 2013.03.04 11:19:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:Solution is probably again: Back to kiting :D So I can get out when blobbed :P Solution is OGB. Don't let these '1337' PeeVeePeesters tell you otherwise. Here is how I do the math. Next time you are in a high activity system, fly from end to end scanning for T3. Now you divide he number of people in system by the number of T3 that appeared on scan. If there are stations in system then you dock an alt in that station and see who and how many are docked. Then you pull out your trusty Buzzard and throw 8 sister's combat probes into space and watch as the number of T3 in space diminish and activity for said system falls like a brick off a cliff into station games and 6 to 1 ganks. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
Hidden Snake
Hidden Squid Society
276
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Posted - 2013.03.04 12:28:00 -
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Ohishi wrote:Colt Blackhawk wrote:Solution is probably again: Back to kiting :D So I can get out when blobbed :P Solution is OGB. Don't let these '1337' PeeVeePeesters tell you otherwise. Here is how I do the math. Next time you are in a high activity system, fly from end to end scanning for T3. Now you divide he number of people in system by the number of T3 that appeared on scan. If there are stations in system then you dock an alt in that station and see who and how many are docked. Then you pull out your trusty Buzzard and throw 8 sister's combat probes into space and watch as the number of T3 in space diminish and activity for said system falls like a brick off a cliff into station games and 6 to 1 ganks.
and once you do all these activities .... suddently.... half of your potentialy targets logoff by boredom.
Or just make the quick counting in ur head and dive in :) |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
85
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Posted - 2013.03.04 14:38:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:Can anyone of the top pilots maybe tell me how you do that with brawling fits? Since I try short range pvp this month I suck like hell. How to avoid getting always damn blobbed within the next 10seconds??? Example: soloing a vexor in hook->sfi and rifter blob me. soloing a wolf in a hook---> slasher comes and they blob me....
SO HOW THE HELL YOU MANAGE THAT?
:P
Use plexes to your advantage and remember people cannot warp to you inside the plex or outside the plex. That often gives you time to kill the "bait" or initial tackle before the blob can get to you. In other words, don't fight in places where you are tackled at short range and you can be directly warped to.
Also, what Damar said. For all his ranting, he's actually a darn good pilot.
QCATS is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180
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SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
34
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Posted - 2013.03.04 15:08:00 -
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Good Sirs;
In my little part of the world, solo novice plexing around sisiede, Rude X is the best. He has a fast hookbill that can scramble you at great range. He is almost always logged in (if you don't play alot you don't count no matter how good you are). I would put Zarnak up there too, but he isn't on as much. Amar Phong is pretty good with his pirate gang, but I haven't seen much of them lately. There are some very good pirate gangs that pass through the area, but since they aren't in FW officially they don't count.
I don't try to fight and I have never met an FC. I just warp away when I can, so my assessment is from a very limited point of view.
your humble servent SeaSaw |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1098
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Posted - 2013.03.04 16:51:00 -
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Yuri Intaki wrote:If math does not match, then "top pilots" simply dont take the fight. I fully agree with this. I remember a fight where our side was in three atrons and the other side had a dramiel, condor, and two thrashers already set up in a small plex. Did we take the fight? Yes we did because we failed to do the mental calculation Yuri talks about, and it cost us big time.
Our side entered the plex and got only two kills for one significant loss on our side in the initial battle: Killed their dramiel. (Yes, the loot fairies punished us for not following Yuri's advice) And their Condor. We lost an atron. I don't think we'll ever recover from this loss (same fit as the next loss below).
Then our lost pilot shipped up to a dessie, and returned. We killed their first thrasher. Then their second., and his pod. However, [http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16598846]We suffered another costly loss. [/url]
After Action Report: What did our side do wrong? How could we have lost so much against the other side? 1. We didn't do the mental calculation that, according to Yuri, most elite pvp'ers do. 2. Our ships were "poorly fit". (Our Goonswarm Tech Moon overlords are angry at us right now). 3. We were the ones who rushed the plex against a well-entrenched enemy.
Of course, we're not the "top pilots" so we're not having any fun, and our kb looks like sh**.
/wave epeen
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Capitol One
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
132
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Posted - 2013.03.04 16:54:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA the fearsome african warlord.
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Ghera From
RifterCorp New Eden Research.
0
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:02:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell is without a doubt the most skilled pilot in the game. I once saw him kill a 30-man AHAC fleet in his t1-fit rifter. I was watching the battle cloaked 200km away in a covops ship, but after he was done with them he still burned right at me, caught me before I could get out, and podded me. He is single-handedly winning the war for the Minmatar. That time when Amarr hit t4 was the week he went on vacation. |
Amadrea
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:05:00 -
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Ghera From wrote:Petrus Blackshell is without a doubt the most skilled pilot in the game. I once saw him kill a 30-man AHAC fleet in his t1-fit rifter. I was watching the battle cloaked 200km away in a covops ship, but after he was done with them he still burned right at me, caught me before I could get out, and podded me. He is single-handedly winning the war for the Minmatar. That time when Amarr hit t4 was the week he went on vacation.
Oh my god, this. His reputation is unmatched. Entire fleets dock up when he enters local. He just can't be stopped. He once took on a PL supercapital fleet in his arty jag and killed 3 SCs and forced the rest to leave. He would've killed them all but he had to take a bio break. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
85
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Posted - 2013.03.04 18:17:00 -
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Amadrea wrote:Ghera From wrote:Petrus Blackshell is without a doubt the most skilled pilot in the game. I once saw him kill a 30-man AHAC fleet in his t1-fit rifter. I was watching the battle cloaked 200km away in a covops ship, but after he was done with them he still burned right at me, caught me before I could get out, and podded me. He is single-handedly winning the war for the Minmatar. That time when Amarr hit t4 was the week he went on vacation. Oh my god, this. His reputation is unmatched. Entire fleets dock up when he enters local. He just can't be stopped. He once took on a PL supercapital fleet in his arty jag and killed 3 SCs and forced the rest to leave. He would've killed them but he was permajammed by a support fleet of Falcons. The only reason CCP keeps ECM in the game is because Petrus Blackshell would be unstoppable without it.
You seem to be describing the Chuck Norris and it is common knowledge that Chuck Norris is Loren Gallen's alt.. QCATS is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180
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Dan Carter Murray
391
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Posted - 2013.03.04 19:07:00 -
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Best - Cynthia Nezmor Craziest - Cynthia Nezmor FC - Cynthia Nezmor (doesn't even use comms) IF YOU DON'T FLY AMARR THEN YOU DON'T LIKE A CHALLENGE SO GET ******
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1100
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Posted - 2013.03.04 20:41:00 -
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/me believes this thread is next up on the Caldari "Make CCP Lock All FW threads" hit list. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
391
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Posted - 2013.03.04 20:44:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:/me believes this thread is next up on the Caldari "Make CCP Lock All FW threads" hit list.
Now that Damar is unbanned, all our forum threads are getting locked :( |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
47
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Posted - 2013.03.04 23:02:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Yuri Intaki wrote:If math does not match, then "top pilots" simply dont take the fight. I fully agree with this. I remember a fight a couple days ago where our side was in three atrons and the other side had a dramiel, condor, and two thrashers already set up in a small plex. Did we take the fight? Yes we did because we failed to do the mental calculation Yuri talks about, and it cost us big time. Our side entered the plex and got only two kills for one significant loss on our side in the initial battle: Killed their dramiel.
(Yes, the loot fairies punished us for not following Yuri's advice) And their Condor.We lost an atron. I don't think we'll ever recover from this loss (same fit as the next loss below). Then our lost pilot shipped up to a dessie, and returned. We killed their first thrasher.Then their second., and his pod. However, We suffered another costly loss. After Action Report:What did our side do wrong? How could we have lost so much against the other side? 1. We didn't do the mental calculation that, according to Yuri, most elite pvp'ers do. 2. Our ships were "poorly fit". (Our Goonswarm Tech Moon overlords are angry at us right now). 3. We were the ones who rushed the plex against a well-entrenched enemy. 4. We didn't have boosts. The horror. Of course, we're not the "top pilots" so we're not having any fun, and our kb looks like sh**. /wave epeen Here is another person that didn't do the mental math.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18967395
I think he was then in so much shock after being WTFBBQPWND that his ability to warp the pod out was reduced to level 0.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18967402
To be fair though, we were only 6 cheap Corms.
Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
138
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Posted - 2013.03.05 00:55:00 -
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you can post all the isoboxed kills you want people still arnt gunna say your more dangerous.. 6 may be controlled by 1 but it still aint 1 dont think you fit in the ops catagory... god loves a tryer tho GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Ohishi
Apocalypse Reign
47
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Posted - 2013.03.05 02:42:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:you can post all the isoboxed kills you want people still arnt gunna say your more dangerous.. 6 may be controlled by 1 but it still aint 1 dont think you fit in the ops catagory... god loves a tryer tho I want you to think I'm not dangerous, that way more people bring ships like that cyna into me at zero. Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
138
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Posted - 2013.03.05 02:52:00 -
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and chestbeating on a dangerous pilot thread will accomplish that how? GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Colt Blackhawk
Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction
73
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Posted - 2013.03.05 06:05:00 -
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HAHAHA. Okay. Tbh if we are choosing top pilots or voting for them we should do that for each warzone. Because cal/gal and amarr/mil are completely different and need other tactics. Completely other tactics. I could brawl with my noobish alt in cal/gal and it was effective. Try that in amarr/min and you will get (&-º$) all the time because a 1vs1 in or 1vs2 in cal/gal will mostly stay a 1vs1 but in amarr/min they will even drop some sfi on you within 20sec when you already fight a vexor in a hookbill. Amarr/min is actually simply blob and counterblob. Tried same tatics I used with my alt in cal/gal with this main in amarr/min with far more skill points and I screwed everything up within 2 days. In amarr/min there is everything more concentrated on speed, range and papertank while in gal/cal it is more about tank and dps but slow like hell. So completely other tactics. Plus we already know it: Minmatar NEVER (okay there are some honorable pilots like Emokiller) fight alone and will always try to blob even a rookie ship. Something I actually haven-¦t seen so much in cal/gal space.
So better would be: Best pilots in cal/gal and best pilots in amarr/min. By the way: How to tell someone that guy X is a superpilot when he has always a 2b pod and 2 ogb? I mean you will never know how good they really are as long as they haven-¦t equal conditions. |
Mart Kong
Black Rise Guerilla Forces
0
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Posted - 2013.03.05 07:24:00 -
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In my individual list are
Praznimrak Killa Rasta X Gallentius Dub Business |
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
214
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Posted - 2013.03.05 09:00:00 -
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Colt Blackhawk wrote:Can anyone of the top pilots maybe tell me how you do that with brawling fits? Since I try short range pvp this month I suck like hell. How to avoid getting always damn blobbed within the next 10seconds??? Example: soloing a vexor in hook->sfi and rifter blob me. soloing a wolf in a hook---> slasher comes and they blob me....
SO HOW THE HELL YOU MANAGE THAT?
Don't fly a Hookbill. Consider a Hookbill is a sign that says 'you need to blob me, because you can't kill me otherwise'
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