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Capt Retard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.27 15:51:00 -
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With the new AAR, and the less new ASB we have come to know and love active tanking across the board.
Oddly - the rig changes came along with the AAR, but nothing was applied for the ASB. Its obviously not a like for like in any context, but perhaps a moderate change to Shield rigs for active setups is in order?
Instead of 'make me bigger' - perhaps 'use more CPU' - and of course, lower CPU used by shield reppers by the 10/15% that armour reppers got to accommodate this change.
Any other proposals? |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.27 15:57:00 -
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You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor |
Capt Retard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:17:00 -
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Drake Doe wrote:You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor
Yes, and 'we' have Armour rigs for armour rep amp. Your racing to a point here?
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BrutalButFair
Fleet of the Damned Happy Endings
70
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:21:00 -
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Capt ****** wrote:Drake Doe wrote:You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor Yes, and 'we' have Armour rigs for armour rep amp. Your racing to a point here?
There are shield rigs for shield rep amp so there it's fine. |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
41
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:24:00 -
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BrutalButFair wrote:Capt ****** wrote:Drake Doe wrote:You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor Yes, and 'we' have Armour rigs for armour rep amp. Your racing to a point here? There are shield rigs for shield rep amp so there it's fine. This |
Capt Retard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:17:00 -
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BrutalButFair wrote:Capt ****** wrote:Drake Doe wrote:You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor Yes, and 'we' have Armour rigs for armour rep amp. Your racing to a point here? There are shield rigs for shield rep amp so there it's fine.
Which is that?
We have shield repper cap use, shield repper duration and ...
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AGSeeker
Crytek Network
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Posted - 2013.02.27 17:20:00 -
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Capt ****** wrote:BrutalButFair wrote:Capt ****** wrote:Drake Doe wrote:You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor Yes, and 'we' have Armour rigs for armour rep amp. Your racing to a point here? There are shield rigs for shield rep amp so there it's fine. Which is that? We have shield repper cap use, shield repper duration and ...
Also there is a small mid-slot module called shield boost amplifier which boosts the boost amount far more than the armor rep amount rigs. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
3196
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Posted - 2013.02.27 18:25:00 -
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Wait, are you suggesting buffing active shield tanking?
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AGSeeker
Crytek Network
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Posted - 2013.02.27 18:41:00 -
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Capt ****** wrote:With the new AAR, and the less new ASB we have come to know and love active tanking across the board.
Oddly - the rig changes came along with the AAR, but nothing was applied for the ASB. Its obviously not a like for like in any context, but perhaps a moderate change to Shield rigs for active setups is in order?
Instead of 'make me bigger' - perhaps 'use more CPU' - and of course, lower CPU used by shield reppers by the 10/15% that armour reppers got to accommodate this change.
Ok, i think i misunderstood something, but now i understand what u suggest.
So u want to exchange the sig radius drawback on shield rigs to change to cpu drawback, similar to the speed debuff to pg debuff on rigs armor got.
I think it would be fair enough to change it according to your suggestion.
As for the lower cpu need on shield boosters i am not so sure if its a good idea. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Atrocitas
3196
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Posted - 2013.02.27 18:56:00 -
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Nah, I like the sig penalty on shield rigs. It's pretty significant.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Batelle
Concordiat
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Posted - 2013.02.27 19:25:00 -
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Capt ****** wrote: Oddly - the rig changes came along with the AAR, but nothing was applied for the ASB. Its obviously not a like for like in any context, but perhaps a moderate change to Shield rigs for active setups is in order?
Why? People have had issues with the armor rig penalty being harder to cope with than the shield rig penalty ever since rigs were introduced. CCP thinks shield rigs are fine, and they made slight adjustments to armor rigs. Changing shield rigs just because they changed armor rigs to make the mechanics more similar is a pretty arbitrary reason to mess around with things. However I award you a gold star (but no likes) for recognizing that the mechanics aren't perfectly mirrored.
Quote:Nah, I like the sig penalty on shield rigs. It's pretty significant. not to mention you can change rigs on a tight fit without breaking your fit's pg/cpu.
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Prekaz
The Gentlemen's Corporation
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:27:00 -
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Capt ****** wrote:
Oddly - the rig changes came along with the AAR, but nothing was applied for the ASB.
Hm. It's almost like you're completely incapable of discerning the fact that this was done on purpose. It wasn't an oversight - the whole damn point was to make active armor tanking slightly less inferior to active shield tanking.
Balancing is not a "One for you, one for me" process. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
803
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Posted - 2013.02.27 22:45:00 -
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They ought to put the fix on ASB by giving it a speed penalty. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.02.28 02:27:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:They ought to put the fix on ASB by giving it a speed penalty, cap drain, and lower effect when not loaded with cap charges. Fixed |
BrutalButFair
Fleet of the Damned Happy Endings
70
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Posted - 2013.02.28 11:42:00 -
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Capt ****** wrote:BrutalButFair wrote:Capt ****** wrote:Drake Doe wrote:You have the booster amp, shield=/=armor Yes, and 'we' have Armour rigs for armour rep amp. Your racing to a point here? There are shield rigs for shield rep amp so there it's fine. Which is that? We have shield repper cap use, shield repper duration and ...
Core Defence Operational Solidfier. It amp because it reduces cycle time ;) |
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